Well when you deliver spicy wind you have to deal with the outcome.
Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022
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Well when you deliver spicy wind you have to deal with the outcome.
Aaron Fox
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If true, oh boy, that means if Ukraine wants to (and it doesn't because most agents also turn the land into a toxic wasteland), they could respond in kind. Part of the unspoken word of all those treaties.
With what supplies?
Ukraine gave up all of their chemical weapons to russia as part of their deal for independence, and I don't see the west giving them said weapons because its an unneeded escalation. Gas masks and NBC gear yes but not chemical weapons.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
All things considered, the West really cocked up when we made Ukraine agree to that deal.
Aaron Fox
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The problem is that many people either missed or blinded themselves to the signs of ravachinism that developed during the 1990s and 20-aughts. The biggest fear -at the time- wasn't Russia itself but if the WMDs were to fall into the hands of terrorists.
Then by the time the ravachinism was obvious to even the most casual observer, it was far too late, and Russia turned the right wing in the West into their pawns by that point either directly (via intelligence operations) or by proxy.
Ukraine has a somewhat developed petrochem sector, so it can easily manufacture chemical weapons. It's called a 'poor man's nuke' for good reason.
The same equipment that can turn simple crude into things like fuel and plastic feedstock can be easily turned into producing chemical agents in general. The only problem is converting the equipment and the will to do so.
Results of the Ukrainian Cross River Operations near the Antonovsky Bridge.
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Australia pledging to deliver seventy military vehicles as part of latest Australian aid package.
Russian Strela-10 Air Defense System goes off impressively.
Reportedly a Swedish IFV in the Bakhmut Area
Ukrainian Ministry of Defense reports liberating the village of Rivnopil in Donetsk.
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Australia pledging to deliver seventy military vehicles as part of latest Australian aid package.
Russian Strela-10 Air Defense System goes off impressively.
Reportedly a Swedish IFV in the Bakhmut Area
Ukrainian Ministry of Defense reports liberating the village of Rivnopil in Donetsk.
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Ian talking with someone from the US who went to Ukraine to train them. Not super detailed but interesting.
Plethora of Soviet/Russian Helicopters Delivered from Croatia to Ukraine, all different Mi-8 variants.
Ukrainian Footage of BMP Mounted Infantry Assaulting a Russian Position. Also use of mine clearing explosives/MCLIC's.
Russian Buk SAM Launcher Struck by Ukrainian Artillery in Zaporizhye
Chinese 152mm Artillery Shell Paired with an Iranian Powder Charge. Is China supplying Russia with artillery? Maybe... but allegedly the shell in this picture was made prior to 1986 so it might date from the Iran-Iraq War.
Pizzeria in Kramatorsk Struck by what was reportedly a Russian S-300 Missile. At least four killed including a child, dozens more injured. Rescuers trying to rescue people buried in the rubble.
Ukrainian Footage of BMP Mounted Infantry Assaulting a Russian Position. Also use of mine clearing explosives/MCLIC's.
Russian Buk SAM Launcher Struck by Ukrainian Artillery in Zaporizhye
Chinese 152mm Artillery Shell Paired with an Iranian Powder Charge. Is China supplying Russia with artillery? Maybe... but allegedly the shell in this picture was made prior to 1986 so it might date from the Iran-Iraq War.
Pizzeria in Kramatorsk Struck by what was reportedly a Russian S-300 Missile. At least four killed including a child, dozens more injured. Rescuers trying to rescue people buried in the rubble.
Update on the Merkava Tanks thing. Both Cyprus and Morocco will likely receiving Merkava 2/3 Main Battle Tanks. Cyprus will use it to replace the 41 T-80U/UK Main Battle Tanks it is delivering to Ukraine. Morocco will be using them to compensate the T-72B's that it sent to the Czech Republic for maintenance... that were then sent to Ukraine, allegedly without Moroccan permission. Israel has stated a condition of the transfer of Merkava's is that none of said Merkavas go to Ukraine.
Latest US Military Aid Package for $500 million, largely drawdown from American Military Stockpiles. This includes Small Arms Ammunition, more Patriot Missiles, HARM missiles, TOW, AT-4 and Javelin Anti-Tank Missiles, 105mm and 155mm Artillery Ammunition, as well as demolition and mine clearing equipment. Also notably, 30 more Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles and 25 Strykers.
Another Russian Convoy Eliminated on the Zaporozhye Front. Reportedly six trucks and one Scooby-Doo Van.
One of the sixty Polish PT-91 Twardy Tanks in Ukrainian Service, this one being part of the 22nd Mechanized Brigade.
Russian Channel Allegeding Gerasimov is only the formal leader of the War but things in Ukraine are actually being directed by Colonel-General Mikhail Teplinsky.
Perun Uploaded a Video on the Ukrainian CounterOffensive (So Far) Last Weekend. He covers the effects of the Kakhovka Dam Collapse, his assessment of the actual progress made by the Ukrainians along various axis briefly, Russian performance so far, the concepts of attrition in regards to this counteroffensive and the current Ukrainian strike campaign now that they are utilizing Storm Shadow Cruise Missiles.
Ukraine's Counter Offensive (So far) - Attrition, Adaptation & What Next?
Latest US Military Aid Package for $500 million, largely drawdown from American Military Stockpiles. This includes Small Arms Ammunition, more Patriot Missiles, HARM missiles, TOW, AT-4 and Javelin Anti-Tank Missiles, 105mm and 155mm Artillery Ammunition, as well as demolition and mine clearing equipment. Also notably, 30 more Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles and 25 Strykers.
Another Russian Convoy Eliminated on the Zaporozhye Front. Reportedly six trucks and one Scooby-Doo Van.
One of the sixty Polish PT-91 Twardy Tanks in Ukrainian Service, this one being part of the 22nd Mechanized Brigade.
Russian Channel Allegeding Gerasimov is only the formal leader of the War but things in Ukraine are actually being directed by Colonel-General Mikhail Teplinsky.
Perun Uploaded a Video on the Ukrainian CounterOffensive (So Far) Last Weekend. He covers the effects of the Kakhovka Dam Collapse, his assessment of the actual progress made by the Ukrainians along various axis briefly, Russian performance so far, the concepts of attrition in regards to this counteroffensive and the current Ukrainian strike campaign now that they are utilizing Storm Shadow Cruise Missiles.
Ukraine's Counter Offensive (So far) - Attrition, Adaptation & What Next?
paulobrito
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Well, maybe they want to handle these old ones with extra care, just in case.
I find that difficult to believe if you consider how much ammo the Soviets used in WW2, for example.
I find that difficult to believe if you consider how much ammo the Soviets used in WW2, for example.
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Possible,but unlikely.
Scells from.let say,1950,seems legit to me.
paulobrito
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Yep, from 1950 is easy to believe, but from 1939? Not so much.
I could well believe these shells are stamped made in 1939 but actually made much later because they either didn't bother to make a new stamp while the 1939 one was working fine OR shenanigans wrt production quotas and such.
This comes from the Russian puppet admin itself; looks like crossings downstream of the old dam have become a tactical reality for Russian planners.
Make sense in a way; Ukraine has long range air defense in Kherson, right up close to the front lines, and this means crossing the river can be done with greater ease, as Russian tactical aircraft will have a hard time safely getting close to the river.
Republican Senator Jim Rusich says delivering ATACMS Missiles to Ukraine in the Future is "quite high."
Newly Produced 122mm Artillery Ammunition Sourced from Iran. Likely part of the 40,000 shells that Russia reportedly obtained from the Islamic Republic of Iran.
AFU Aligned Belarussian Fighters Interviewing Recently Captured Russian Mobilized Soldiers.
Informal Interviews Conducted with 'Veterans' of the Special Military Operation in Ukraine in one Russian village.
New Camouflage Paint Schemes Added to many Russian Warships of the Black Seas Fleet.
Article from Popular Mechanics on a potential purchase of ex-Australian F-18 Super Hornets by Ukraine.
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Newly Produced 122mm Artillery Ammunition Sourced from Iran. Likely part of the 40,000 shells that Russia reportedly obtained from the Islamic Republic of Iran.
AFU Aligned Belarussian Fighters Interviewing Recently Captured Russian Mobilized Soldiers.
Informal Interviews Conducted with 'Veterans' of the Special Military Operation in Ukraine in one Russian village.
New Camouflage Paint Schemes Added to many Russian Warships of the Black Seas Fleet.
Article from Popular Mechanics on a potential purchase of ex-Australian F-18 Super Hornets by Ukraine.
Ukraine May Buy Hand-Me-Down F/A-18 Hornets From Australia. It's Not a Perfect Idea.
Maybe in theory...
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Comparison of Documented Ukrainian and Russian Heavy Equipment Losses Since the beginning of the Ukrainian Attacks on the Zaporizhzhia Front in June.
Taiwan delivering humanitarian aid, including ambulances, jeeps, fire trucks, four dozen vehicles in total, to Ukraine.
Russian Occupied Port of Berdyansk Came Under Attack from Ukrainian Storm Shadow Missile(s)
Russian T-62M Tank Encountered a Well Hidden Anti-Tank Minefield.
Downed Russian Zala Drone Finished Off By a Drone Dropped Munition.
Taiwan delivering humanitarian aid, including ambulances, jeeps, fire trucks, four dozen vehicles in total, to Ukraine.
Russian Occupied Port of Berdyansk Came Under Attack from Ukrainian Storm Shadow Missile(s)
Russian T-62M Tank Encountered a Well Hidden Anti-Tank Minefield.
Downed Russian Zala Drone Finished Off By a Drone Dropped Munition.
I'm getting the distinct feeling from the actions of Russia, in regards to the ZNPP, show they fully intend to blow that power plant as soon as Ukraine gets control of it, or even just forces the Russian's out of the plant.
I think this will be the red line from which there will be no coming back; at that point, there can be no peace with Russia, only containment ala North Korea.
Ukrainian Bergepanzer Armored Recovery Vehicle engaging in recovery operations of abandoned Ukrainian vehicles, including two Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles.
Spain Announced it will deliver Ukraine four more Leopard tanks as well as other armored fighting vehicles and a mobile field hospital.
Ukrainian Forces Bringing a Russian T-72 Tank Under Artillery Fire Coming from a 2S1 Gvozdika 122mm Self Propelled Howitzer in the Donetsk Oblast.
Russian MT-LB Modified with an aerial rocket pod and one of those cool looking Vasilek Automatic Mortars. Reportedly Russia has a lack of self propelled mortar support vehicles.
Lotta Russian sunbirds heading into Crimea for their summer beach vacations but Russian security precautions are apparently causing slight traffic delays.
Spain Announced it will deliver Ukraine four more Leopard tanks as well as other armored fighting vehicles and a mobile field hospital.
Ukrainian Forces Bringing a Russian T-72 Tank Under Artillery Fire Coming from a 2S1 Gvozdika 122mm Self Propelled Howitzer in the Donetsk Oblast.
Russian MT-LB Modified with an aerial rocket pod and one of those cool looking Vasilek Automatic Mortars. Reportedly Russia has a lack of self propelled mortar support vehicles.
Lotta Russian sunbirds heading into Crimea for their summer beach vacations but Russian security precautions are apparently causing slight traffic delays.