Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022

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lloyd007 said:
Seems like Ukraine political corruption didn't magically disappear on February 24, 2022 and the millions of dollars given to Kharkhiv's corruptocrats to build defenses instead went to the laundromat, hence why the Russians just walked over the border.

humanevents.com

Ukrainian Corruption Center reports northern border defense funds were diverted to fake companies, letting Russians walk right across border in new Kharkiv offensive

It has been reported that the Russian military was able to walk into northern Ukraine due to defense systems missing this past week.
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Of course on the flipside the Kremlin squandered an opportunity to possibly REALLY change the course of the war from slowly taking territory in an enormously costly manner to instead being in field artillery range of Kharkhiv and thus forcing some major issues.
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And the third side of it was that Ukraine technically could have prevented opening this front overall by shooting up the staging areas and logistical support of it, but "line on map" retarded restrictions prevent it to this day.

This sort of shit makes it more easier to fight Russian forces when they have some "tail" on Ukrainian territory, so that it can be hit properly.
Holding on to a defensive right on the border while the other side could have fire and logistical support from Russian territory where it can't be hit with Ukraine's best weapons is... suboptimal.
 
Marduk said:
And the third side of it was that Ukraine technically could have prevented opening this front overall by shooting up the staging areas and logistical support of it, but "line on map" retarded restrictions prevent it to this day.

This sort of shit makes it more easier to fight Russian forces when they have some "tail" on Ukrainian territory, so that it can be hit properly.
Holding on to a defensive right on the border while the other side could have fire and logistical support from Russian territory where it can't be hit with Ukraine's best weapons is... suboptimal.
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The counterpoint to that is that by these rules the massive logistical/repair of Ukrainian forces done in NATO territory can also be fair game. And we all know the consequences of that. Nobody really wants that type of escalation, only the cockroaches win that game.
 
paulobrito said:
The counterpoint to that is that by these rules the massive logistical/repair of Ukrainian forces done in NATO territory can also be fair game.
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Only in the heads of retarded de-escalationists.
Did Soviet Union get attacked by South Vietnam for providing weapons to North Vietnam without any such geographic restrictions?
Did PRC get bombed by USA for not just providing similar support to NK but also actively taking part in the war? That was when PRC didn't even have nukes, a B-47 could have nuked Beijing and they could have done jack shit about it.
If Russia wants to dare pick a fight with NATO by attacking its territory, excuses do not matter, a fight it is.
Conversely if they don't want to pick such a fight, there will be no fight even if those restrictions are demonstratively torn apart and set on fire on national TV.
paulobrito said:
And we all know the consequences of that.
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If you "know", then i "know" too, and we know different things, so at least one of us has to be wrong.
This "knowledge" is an arbitrarily set up pseudofact, that of course Russians will support with their shovel of bullshit just because of how beneficial its existence is to them.
paulobrito said:
Nobody really wants that type of escalation, only the cockroaches win that game.
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If Russia doesn't want it, then the ball would be in its court and there would be no escalation.
 
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paulobrito said:
The counterpoint to that is that by these rules the massive logistical/repair of Ukrainian forces done in NATO territory can also be fair game. And we all know the consequences of that. Nobody really wants that type of escalation, only the cockroaches win that game.
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Except Finland, UK, and I think even Poland said thier weapons are free to use on Russian soil.
So point moot.
 
Husky_Khan said:
Looks like a S-400 Radar is amongst the victims of this latest ATACMS strike on the Belbak Airbase in Crimea.



There's other reports of destroyed jets and the like but no confirmation beyond words of hope or cope yet.
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Reportedly two MiG-31's and an Su-27 may have been destroyed in the same series of missile strikes and a MiG-29 damaged.



Even more planes may have been damaged.

 
Bacle said:


Ukraine did a mass drone strike across the Russian Black Sea coast last night.



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So Ukraine hit a refinery/ distro facility on the Baltic a few weeks ago, now two on the Black Sea. That has to hurt, China has told Russia we can keep giving you aid……but you have to return most of Siberia to China, including your large Pacific port at Vladivostok.
 
Ukrainians are Alledging their ATACMS Strike on the Black Seas Fleet Recently Might've Struck and Seriously Damaged a Minesweeper and a modern missile corvette.



Maps of the Recent Russian Offensives in Four Different Areas including in the Kharkiv Oblast and down near Robotyne where the Ukrainian Counteroffensive took place last Summer.



Accounts of the Fighting near Vovchansk by Ukrainian Forces who were redeployed to that area mere days before the Russian offensive. Talk of the Russian firepower advantage and underprepared defensive works and fortifications. Ukrainians apparently knew of the massing of troops but the Russians still managed to advance.





Going ons at the Hospital in Vovchansk where the Russians Reportedly Set up a Headquarters for the territory they re-liberated in the Kharkiv Oblast the past few days.

 
PeaceMaker 03 said:
The source is strategypage.com, how accurate the story is? No way to confirm, but I have been reading it daily for over a decade and they have been more accurate than mainstream media, with more background of why things happen.

China wants territory from Russia
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The Chicoms background sentiments are known, that is true, but background sentiment usually doesn't override specific diplomacy i.e. demanding Siberia would break any trade agreements and make China more dependent on other less friendly countries since Siberian infrastructure is either non existent or east/west developed at the very least and risk That Scene From Wargames at worst... and everyone knows that.
 


So it's confirmed Russia lost it's last cruise missile carrying ship in Crimea due to a recent ATACMS strike.
 
An S-400 Air Defense Battery with reportedly three or four launchers and a radar station were eliminated by a Ukrainian ATACMS strike in the Donetsk Region. The at least six S-400 missiles apparently failed to intercept the incoming strike.





Reports of Several Aircraft Losses after around three UAV's Struck a Russian Airbase in the Krasnodar Krai region in Southern Russia. Likely one Su-27 was destroyed and another Su-34 and maybe an additional Su-30 were damaged.



Ukrainian Drones/UAV's struck a Missile Warning Radar Complex in Voronezh in Southern Russia.



According to Reuters sources, the new GLSDB being offered to Ukraine is still vulnerable to jamming from Russian EW systems.

 
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