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AmosTrask

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My rule of thumb is that a grudge should only be held for a maximum of 100 years so yes I will forgive Germany sometime in 20 plus years
Amigo. Speaking only for Pinoy. We're Headhunting tribals at heart. We've kept blood feuds going for centuries. Finding reasons to stoke hatred against Japan for WW2 and their refusing to even acknowledge their dishonor is easy.

The infuriating aspect is that all it would take is a simple acknowledgement and a symbolic apology to satisfy our own code of honor. Only the elders and their direct children who remember the Japanese occupation are adamant now. Japan's crimes won't be forgotten, but they are secondary to the threat China poses now.

China has continually attacked us and stolen our sacred islands. If forgiving the Japanese is needed to deal with the Paper Dragon then so be it.

Hell! Elder Whang Od at 106 years old has more claim to Blood Feud than many alive. Her clan lost many warriors and children to the Kempetai and Imperial Japanese Army. Fathers, brothers, sons and daughters. She grew up a headhunter tribal. Those mountain clans don't forget a single gods damn slight. But she's learned to forgive and move on.
 
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Bacle

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Russia is no longer paying the salaries of it's soldiers/mobiks in many cases.
 

King Arts

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Russia is no longer paying the salaries of it's soldiers/mobiks in many cases.
I'm pretty sure it's fake news. And if not the soldiers will be happy to work for free. Communism is all about working for the greater good and selfless service.
 

Cherico

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Russia is no longer paying the salaries of it's soldiers/mobiks in many cases.

always pay your military promptly and on time.
 

Jormungandr

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Its common sense you pay the people with combat training and who are willing to die for you.
Yup! It's been known since ancient times, especially in China and Rome.

I guess the Russians adopted the Napoleonic model, though -- limited state pay but most of it being loot from attacked territories/opposing troops.

They're looting fucking toilets, for crying out loud.

"Da, comrade! I can get 500 rubles for this Western-made toilet back home, da?"

There was a hilarious case last year where a Russian soldier replaced his body-armour with looted iMacs -- he got shot in the chest, through the laptops, and died.
 

Marduk

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Its common sense you pay the people with combat training and who are willing to die for you.
It seems like the idea is that they will get paid, something, eventually, if they survive long enough, slam their head against the bureaucracy enough times, and don't get into any other trouble that would excuse cutting their pay. Done on large scale, especially with the mess involved, can save quite some money, though i would guess at least some chunk of the money being "saved" may be getting siphoned off into someone's pockets.
 

ATP

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Russian officers are using their female combat medics as sex slaves.

This is a new low.
Norm in soviet army.And we have postsoviet army now.There were no combad female medics in tsar times,but at least such thing like russian officer attacking woman after 1856 rarely happened and sometimes was even punished.

Another proof ,that those creatures are not russians.
 

ATP

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USA Embassy for a long time is supporting Rafał Trzaskowski,one of polish-german opposition leaders.
Which mean,that USA are still planning to gave both Poland and Ukraine to Moscov.
 

ATP

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That's crazy talk my friend
We live in crazy reality.Biden first let finish NS2,later promised Moscov Ukraine if they do not start open war.
But putin started war,lost it,and now USA could not gave Ukraine to him.

But,if they change polish goverment for german agents,then it still could happen - no more help through polish territory.
 

AnimalNoodles

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Russian officers are using their female combat medics as sex slaves.

This is a new low.

This is right up there with tearing kuwaiti babies out incubators and giving russians viagra to rape ukrainians in the level of absurd propaganda.
 

King Arts

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This is right up there with tearing kuwaiti babies out incubators and giving russians viagra to rape ukrainians in the level of absurd propaganda.
Not really read the thing officers asking women under their command to e in a relationship with them. When they refuse they suffer adverse penalties America does it also pretty much any hierarchical organization will have these problems.
 

Zachowon

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Not really read the thing officers asking women under their command to e in a relationship with them. When they refuse they suffer adverse penalties America does it also pretty much any hierarchical organization will have these problems.
Except we actively fight it here and isn't on the same scale as Russia.

At least know something first and for most before talking about it
 

King Arts

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Except we actively fight it here and isn't on the same scale as Russia.

At least know something first and for most before talking about it
You can't say someone is ignorant if they say it happens, and it actually happens. I did not talk at all about the scale of the issue. What I said was correct, sexual harrassment demanding sex in exchange for favorable treatment or to avoid bad treatment is an issue the US deals with also.

Yes you are trying to limit it great, I was responding to Animal noodles saying that this type of sexual assault is cartoon silliness. By saying no it's realistic the stories about the Russian military doing that are probably true. Because MANY nations deal with it, it's an issue that affects anything that has a hierarchy. Like even private bussiness would have this the boss demans the secretary do something otherwise she loses her job. The differance is in the millitary officers have a higher control of your life and can send you to a more dangerous place where you are more likely to die.

I know you are in the Army and you can be a bit defensive about any criticism, but read what I'm saying because I'm not attacking the US here.
 
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