Breaking News Robert F Kennedy Jr. is considering a 2024 POTUS Run To Challenge Biden

Yellowhammer

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Problem; I don’t think the Democrats are going to run Biden. They’ll go with someone else that will pull in more Democrat votes. Meanwhile, the support of independents and a handful of Republicans will be split between Trump and RFK.

The problem with this analysis is that from Joe's perspective, he has to win to prevent being thrown in jail (if not him, then certainly Hunter Biden) for corruption and money laundering charges. He can't shuffle gracefully off to retirement in Delaware.

The other problem with this is the Dems don't have a clear savior waiting in the wings between the bulk of their leadership being one step from the nursing home and looking it (Warren, Sanders, Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, etc.) and the fact that they put a token uncharasmatic minority as VP -- who polls worse than Biden. The only way to get someone other than Harris or Biden to run is to elbow Harris aside... and tossing a black woman aside for an old white man (be it Gavin Newsome or the like) would be terrible optics among groups that they need to turn out (women, black,s the intersectionality/woke bunch). especially after they did their ethnic tokenism to replace the late Diane Feinstein with a black woman.
 

Cherico

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The problem with this analysis is that from Joe's perspective, he has to win to prevent being thrown in jail (if not him, then certainly Hunter Biden) for corruption and money laundering charges. He can't shuffle gracefully off to retirement in Delaware.

The other problem with this is the Dems don't have a clear savior waiting in the wings between the bulk of their leadership being one step from the nursing home and looking it (Warren, Sanders, Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, etc.) and the fact that they put a token uncharasmatic minority as VP -- who polls worse than Biden. The only way to get someone other than Harris or Biden to run is to elbow Harris aside... and tossing a black woman aside for an old white man (be it Gavin Newsome or the like) would be terrible optics among groups that they need to turn out (women, black,s the intersectionality/woke bunch). especially after they did their ethnic tokenism to replace the late Diane Feinstein with a black woman.

The Issue with Biden is that he created the precident that former presidents are fair game.

And considering how many skeletons he has in his closest he pretty much deserves to have this blow up in his face.
 

Rocinante

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So, I take back my opinion that rfk would steal more votes from Trump.

Not with these new policy positions. He's going for the democrat base and is making himself utterly toxic to any right of center voters.

Racial reparations are an absolute non starter.

It's not in this article but I heard he's also for gun control.

He's in this to fuck over the dems.

I'm predicting he doesn't survive until the elections now.
 

DarthOne

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So, I take back my opinion that rfk would steal more votes from Trump.

Not with these new policy positions. He's going for the democrat base and is making himself utterly toxic to any right of center voters.

Racial reparations are an absolute non starter.

It's not in this article but I heard he's also for gun control.

He's in this to fuck over the dems.

I'm predicting he doesn't survive until the elections now.

By not survive do you mean not remain politically viable or, well, Kennedy’d?
 

Cherico

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By not survive do you mean not remain politically viable or, well, Kennedy’d?

OIP.Qqf4Sd6t6qTfuu_cg04rQAAAAA
 

Rocinante

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Hope you are right and that enough people are paying attention to pick up on that.
Oh they will. Right wing media will make a big show out of the reparations, and that's an absolute fucking deal breaker.

That's even more left than anything Biden has tried to do. Utter cancer to anyone right of center. No fucking way he's pulling votes from Trump now.

His base will be the anti-vax dems. Which could be a considerable amount of people. Don't forget that before covid, it was mostly hippie lefties that were anti-vax.
 

Blasterbot

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Oh they will. Right wing media will make a big show out of the reparations, and that's an absolute fucking deal breaker.

That's even more left than anything Biden has tried to do. Utter cancer to anyone right of center. No fucking way he's pulling votes from Trump now.

His base will be the anti-vax dems. Which could be a considerable amount of people. Don't forget that before covid, it was mostly hippie lefties that were anti-vax.
It is going to be important to consider how to attack his positions. hitting him over anti-establishment things will drag Trump down as well. attack him for being very green, the Reparations, his gun policies, and I am sure more and the centrists won't like him much. going hard left is good for us though. makes him draw more from lefty types.
 

Lord Sovereign

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Oh they will. Right wing media will make a big show out of the reparations, and that's an absolute fucking deal breaker.

That's even more left than anything Biden has tried to do. Utter cancer to anyone right of center. No fucking way he's pulling votes from Trump now.

His base will be the anti-vax dems. Which could be a considerable amount of people. Don't forget that before covid, it was mostly hippie lefties that were anti-vax.
So it’s more likely he’ll bite into the Democrat vote than anything remotely Republic. This could be a great opportunity for the American Right. Not to compare you to Woodrow Wilson, but did he not win the Presidency thanks to his opponents’s infighting?
 

DarthOne

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So it’s more likely he’ll bite into the Democrat vote than anything remotely Republic. This could be a great opportunity for the American Right. Not to compare you to Woodrow Wilson, but did he not win the Presidency thanks to his opponents’s infighting?
He did. And caused about 90% of the mess that not only America but the world is dealing with today.

Oh if only I had a time machine....
 

Cherico

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It wouldn't surprise me if the Democrats did try to pull this off. They're becoming increasingly desperate to hold onto power and control, and they'll go to any lengths.

All it would do is put off the day of reconing and make it that much worse.
 

Rocinante

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It wouldn't surprise me if the Democrats did try to pull this off. They're becoming increasingly desperate to hold onto power and control, and they'll go to any lengths.
I'm not so sure.

Despite my previous posts and retraction of my prediction that he will hurt Trump worse, it looks like in recent polls, he is indeed hurting Trump worse, pulling votes from Trump at a 2:1 ratio.

 

Rocinante

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That makes no sense to me considering what his platform is about.
A lot of Trump supporters are ex democrats who just hate what dems have become so much that they're voting Trump, despite not liking him.

RFK gives them a third option. Hell, I'm one of those Trump voting ex-democrats, and I even considered RFK for a little bit, until all his woke and reparations bullshit.
 

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