Breaking News Robert F Kennedy Jr. is considering a 2024 POTUS Run To Challenge Biden

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I thought that RFK would take away from Trump. It’s not just about policies, it’s about the psychology of the voters. People who vote for Biden vote for who they are told to vote for. They likely don’t know very much about Kennedy aside from him being an evil person that they shouldn’t vote for.

Trump voters aren’t voting for who they are told to vote for, they may be voting for Trump because he opposes the establishment and Kennedy does that too. They are more likely to actually know what Kennedy’s positions are and to be swayed by possible agreements.
 
Rocinante said:
A lot of Trump supporters are ex democrats who just hate what dems have become so much that they're voting Trump, despite not liking him.

RFK gives them a third option. Hell, I'm one of those Trump voting ex-democrats, and I even considered RFK for a little bit, until all his woke and reparations bullshit.
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Which makes me think either those Trump voting ex-democrats have no idea what RFK's platform is, or the poll is complete bullhonky.
 
it isn't a large number but at this point it is a battle in the margins of the swing states. who is hurt more by RFK is a genuine question. the overwhelming majority of Dems will vote blue no matter who. RFK trying to break the mold there means most won't like it. He also appeals to the same demographics that Trump appeals to in general. I.E. less educated and white. It is why Trump has to be careful in what he does to attack RFK. attacking him for being anti-establishment will hurt Trump and turn off his base. Attacking him for being a progressive democrat though? that has potential. Bring up the reparations talk. hammer him on the anti-gun stances. expose the bullshit that is his green policies when they would cripple us economically when we need to be doing what we can to fix the economy.
 
Blasterbot said:
it isn't a large number but at this point it is a battle in the margins of the swing states. who is hurt more by RFK is a genuine question. the overwhelming majority of Dems will vote blue no matter who. RFK trying to break the mold there means most won't like it. He also appeals to the same demographics that Trump appeals to in general. I.E. less educated and white. It is why Trump has to be careful in what he does to attack RFK. attacking him for being anti-establishment will hurt Trump and turn off his base. Attacking him for being a progressive democrat though? that has potential. Bring up the reparations talk. hammer him on the anti-gun stances. expose the bullshit that is his green policies when they would cripple us economically when we need to be doing what we can to fix the economy.
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The problem with the anti establishment crowd, and I was (am) one of them, is that they know the candidate won't win, and specific policies don't matter. It's just to say "fuck you," to the establishment.

I voted for Jill Stein in 2012. Not because I support her policies, but because "fuck you, Obama," and that's about the end of it.

That played a part in my 2020 Trump vote, too. However, I also saw Trump as the best option and having a chance to win, too.

I was still not totally over my lefty ways in 2016 and voted Hillary instead of Gary Johnson at the last minute, because I bought into a lot of the Trump fear mongering. In hindsight, I think that was the wrong way to vote, and I'm glad Trump won. I should have just voted for Gary or Trump. After 4 years, I realized 90% of the fear mongering wasn't true, and happily voted for him in 2020.

My point being, to those of us who refuse to opt out of voting all together because we see it as a civic duty, having a "fuck you" candidate provides an option to make sure you're still participating in your Civic duties, while not supporting the shitty establishment. Their particular policies hardly even matter. I've considered voting RFK in '24 for this very reason. I just think this one is too important to just hand it to the dems, so I'll be voting republican this time regardless.
 
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VictortheMonarch said:
She also has ties to the World Economic Forum, so she's just another puppet of Soros, meaning that Kennedy might be another snake in the grass.
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he's also likely to draw votes away from biden so you know.

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VictortheMonarch said:
She also has ties to the World Economic Forum, so she's just another puppet of Soros, meaning that Kennedy might be another snake in the grass.
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My understanding is it allows her to ignore some finance laws about how much she can put towards the campaign. near as I can tell she is a proggerssive idealist. this is him leaning such that he will hurt the dems more than trump.
 
Robovski said:
Sooo looking forward to a big split.
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I'm curious what you mean by big split. I don't expect Kennedy to crack 7% nationally, but the percentage will vary from state to state, and even a few percent could be plenty in a close state depending on who he takes votes from ... which come to think of it may also vary by state.
 
Anything that splits a party widens the field. The reason everyone says if you aren't voting for the big two you are throwing away your vote is because of those monolithic blocks. If they are both split the election gets interesting again instead of Biden/Trump 2 electric boogaloo. It'd be a real nice time for some third party action if anyone worth a damn would show up to lead a party. As you can tell I think the whole election is a trash fire and so seeing the Dems split at all should make for decent infighting that probably won't change anything but in my dreams it does.
 
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