No, bullies often made things so that the mentally ill people got worse, and became more violent.
It was bullies that used to make me fantasize about violence in 5th-8th grade.No, bullies often made things so that the mentally ill people got worse, and became more violent.
The idea that bullies and bullying are 'good' for kids and people who are struggling with mental illness or other personal struggles is pure 'dudebro-science'.
You're right, and it goes deeper than just that.Bullying is not a good thing. The poblem here is that the over-correction is coddling, and that's quite literally just as bad. It also fucks you up. In fact, it may even be worse. Bullying, in some cases, can ultimately make you stronger (although in a really unpleasant and inefficient way). Coddling can never help you.
Consider it like exposure to disease. Bullying is like just blanket-infecting everybody and giving them zero treatment and if you perish, fuck you. Coddling is like systematically ensuring that people are never exposed to any germ of any kind... and then dumping them in the real world, where germs exist, to which they have zero resistance-- meaning near-100% fatality.
You need a healthy system of exposure, where people build up resistance and grow stronger. The "social" equivalent of that isn't bullying, but active team-building. And not like that modern bullshit, but like in an old-fashioned way. If someone isn't socially well-adjusted, then only way to change that is to include them in stuff. Find out what they're good at, and can become good at, and start fostering that.
What you need is the "one of us" mentality. You need tribalism. That weird epileptic kid is bound to make a good shaman, right? That's how the ancestors did it.
Bullying is not a good thing. The poblem here is that the over-correction is coddling, and that's quite literally just as bad. It also fucks you up. In fact, it may even be worse. Bullying, in some cases, can ultimately make you stronger (although in a really unpleasant and inefficient way). Coddling can never help you.
Consider it like exposure to disease. Bullying is like just blanket-infecting everybody and giving them zero treatment and if you perish, fuck you. Coddling is like systematically ensuring that people are never exposed to any germ of any kind... and then dumping them in the real world, where germs exist, to which they have zero resistance-- meaning near-100% fatality.
You need a healthy system of exposure, where people build up resistance and grow stronger. The "social" equivalent of that isn't bullying, but active team-building. And not like that modern bullshit, but like in an old-fashioned way. If someone isn't socially well-adjusted, then only way to change that is to include them in stuff. Find out what they're good at, and can become good at, and start fostering that.
What you need is the "one of us" mentality. You need tribalism. That weird epileptic kid is bound to make a good shaman, right? That's how the ancestors did it.
Agreed and what I was trying to say.Bullying is not a good thing. The poblem here is that the over-correction is coddling, and that's quite literally just as bad. It also fucks you up. In fact, it may even be worse. Bullying, in some cases, can ultimately make you stronger (although in a really unpleasant and inefficient way). Coddling can never help you.
Consider it like exposure to disease. Bullying is like just blanket-infecting everybody and giving them zero treatment and if you perish, fuck you. Coddling is like systematically ensuring that people are never exposed to any germ of any kind... and then dumping them in the real world, where germs exist, to which they have zero resistance-- meaning near-100% fatality.
You need a healthy system of exposure, where people build up resistance and grow stronger. The "social" equivalent of that isn't bullying, but active team-building. And not like that modern bullshit, but like in an old-fashioned way. If someone isn't socially well-adjusted, then only way to change that is to include them in stuff. Find out what they're good at, and can become good at, and start fostering that.
What you need is the "one of us" mentality. You need tribalism. That weird epileptic kid is bound to make a good shaman, right? That's how the ancestors did it.
To clarify on my last post, bullying is corrective behavior.Bullying is not a good thing. The poblem here is that the over-correction is coddling, and that's quite literally just as bad. It also fucks you up. In fact, it may even be worse. Bullying, in some cases, can ultimately make you stronger (although in a really unpleasant and inefficient way). Coddling can never help you.
Consider it like exposure to disease. Bullying is like just blanket-infecting everybody and giving them zero treatment and if you perish, fuck you. Coddling is like systematically ensuring that people are never exposed to any germ of any kind... and then dumping them in the real world, where germs exist, to which they have zero resistance-- meaning near-100% fatality.
You need a healthy system of exposure, where people build up resistance and grow stronger. The "social" equivalent of that isn't bullying, but active team-building. And not like that modern bullshit, but like in an old-fashioned way. If someone isn't socially well-adjusted, then only way to change that is to include them in stuff. Find out what they're good at, and can become good at, and start fostering that.
What you need is the "one of us" mentality. You need tribalism. That weird epileptic kid is bound to make a good shaman, right? That's how the ancestors did it.
I disagree. while bullying can go too far it is something encoded into people for a reason. it is something that tells you "that guy isn't playing along with the rules of the tribe". can it go too far? absolutely. but completely ignoring that warning bell screaming that this guy is not right leads to negative outcomes as well.No, bullies often made things so that the mentally ill people got worse, and became more violent.
The idea that bullies and bullying are 'good' for kids and people who are struggling with mental illness or other personal struggles is pure 'dudebro-science'.
Oh no; I'd argue there's enormous pressure to conform right now. It's just that what we're all demanded to conform to, is monstrous.I can kinda sorta see where the bullying meme is coming from. In that there’s a much much less societal pressure for people to fit in and toe the line. Which in some respects is a good thing…but on the other hand you get real freaks running around because there’s no push back.