Meme Thread for Both Posting and Discussing Memes

[Cherico]

"Oh but the other side are worse" is not really that good a justification.
The point being that the American approach to getting other countries to go along with its policies seems to currently be all stick and no carrot.
Which is not good diplomacy at all.

There has been plenty of Carrot, market access, protection of trade lanes, and other stuff.

Like I said were not great at diplomacy but we do have some basic competence where russia has kind of forgotten that skill set. China basically threw it away with warrior wolf mentality.

Some times being the best of a bad option will let you win dispite incompetance on your part.

 

[Bigking321]

I feel that Biden would happily sell us into eternal servitude to China as long as they bribed him enough.

I think our days of good diplomacy are behind us at the moment.

 

[Cherico]

I feel that Biden would happily sell us into eternal servitude to China as long as they bribed him enough.

I think our days of good diplomacy are behind us at the moment.

Oh were shit at it, the good news is that all of our rivals are even worse.

Every one is some flavor of fucked this decade were just fucked the least.

 

[Aldarion]

 

[PsihoKekec]

There has been plenty of Carrot, market access, protection of trade lanes, and other stuff.

American attitude in this diplomatic round was basically ''Do as we say or we will crash your economy, coup you and install a more pliable puppet, oh and legalize butt-sex and trans kids while you are at it''. This way State Department is keeping Russia contained, but is losing badly against China, which is expanding into Africa for the last twenty years, with plenty of carrots for the local elites, without virtue signaling of the day preconditions like gay rights, trans rights...
And yeah I'm sure local elites are absolutely overjoyed at the fact that American market is open to their raw materials, the ones that China is buying as well. This not a fee market competition there, but a fight between State Department aligned corporations and CCP aligned corporations about who gets to exploit local resources.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

American attitude in this diplomatic round was basically ''Do as we say or we will crash your economy, coup you and install a more pliable puppet, oh and legalize butt-sex and trans kids while you are at it''. This way State Department is keeping Russia contained, but is losing badly against China, which is expanding into Africa for the last twenty years, with plenty of carrots for the local elites, without virtue signaling of the day preconditions like gay rights, trans rights...
And yeah I'm sure local elites are absolutely overjoyed at the fact that American market is open to their raw materials, the ones that China is buying as well. This not a fee market competition there, but a fight between State Department aligned corporations and CCP aligned corporations about who gets to exploit local resources.

LOL! Not wrong! I was there!

 

[TheRejectionist]

Imagine taking Lavrov seriously on this shit, while his nation is trying to reclaim it's imperial ambitions/lands.

Best thing to do is laugh at him the same way the Indian crowd laughed at his suggestion Ukraine started the war.

Hopefully soon someone will toss him and Putin out some windows.

Imagine forgetting you did worse. Imagine forgetting you like a dybbuk.

 

[Bacle]

Imagine forgetting you did worse. Imagine forgetting you like a dybbuk.

Worse than the Holomodor, worse than kidnapping thousands of Ukrainian kid, worse than fucking Bucha....

Go fuck yourself vatnik.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Worse than the Holomodor, worse than kidnapping thousands of Ukrainian kid, worse than fucking Bucha....

Unlike you I can open an history book. Bacle and be polite. If I list the victims of the US puppeteres and the consequences that still linger to this day, the crimes of the cosmopolitan and degenerate elites of Washington D.C. superate those in this war. Just to name a few : Nicaragua, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Haiti, Dominican Republic and many more.

Go fuck yourself vatnik.

Is that a miniscule attempt at a slur? My Bacle I thought you were original but I guess not. Also weren't you the one complaining about people behind unfriendly a month ago?

 

[Bacle]

Unlike you I can open an history book. Bacle and be polite. If I list the victims of the US puppeteres and the consequences that still linger to this day, the crimes of the cosmopolitan and degenerate elites of Washington D.C. superate those in this war. Just to name a few : Nicaragua, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Haiti, Dominican Republic and many more.

Is that a miniscule attempt at a slur? My Bacle I thought you were original but I guess not. Also weren't you the one complaining about people behind unfriendly a month ago?

I can read a history book too, and while the US isn't perfect, acting like Russia has any room to say shit is something only Russian shills and vatniks would say.

And I don't care about being kinda to a proven vatnik and Russian shill.

I tried being nice with you and you learned nothing, so you are not worth being polite to anymore.

 

[TheRejectionist]

I can read a history book too, and while the US isn't perfect, acting like Russia has any room to say shit is something only Russian shills and vatniks would say.

Haven't you considered for a second that maybe isn't Russian shills and vatniks?

And I don't care about being kinda to a proven vatnik and Russian shill.

I tried being nice with you and you learned nothing, so you are not worth being polite to anymore.

 

[Bacle]

Haven't you considered for a second that maybe isn't Russian shills and vatniks?

Ah yes, trying to play off how you got called out for being a Russian shill.

And see, that's the thing, I might have believed you weren't a shill or vatnik, had you actually learned anything from my, and others, repeated attempts to inform you.

Instead you learn nothing, keep on with the same Russian shill behavior, and wonder why you get labeled as such.

 

[Abhorsen]

Cool off and stop attacking each other. Now.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Cool off and stop attacking each other. Now.

No worries

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

There has been plenty of Carrot, market access, protection of trade lanes, and other stuff.

Like I said were not great at diplomacy but we do have some basic competence where russia has kind of forgotten that skill set. China basically threw it away with warrior wolf mentality.

Some times being the best of a bad option will let you win dispite incompetance on your part.

The issue is that the carrot comes with things like corporate culture, woke ideology and sexual liberation all things that are violently at odds with most cultures. Hell they're violently at odds with our culture. And that's going to have less and less of an appeal.

Most of the coup de'tat's not CIA funded of the last fifteen years have been anti-globalist, populist radicals. The Guinean guy is the most recent and best example. First thing he did was expel every NGO, second thing? Ventilate a bunch of internationalists.

 

[Cherico]

The issue is that the carrot comes with things like corporate culture, woke ideology and sexual liberation all things that are violently at odds with most cultures. Hell they're violently at odds with our culture. And that's going to have less and less of an appeal.

Most of the coup de'tat's not CIA funded of the last fifteen years have been anti-globalist, populist radicals. The Guinean guy is the most recent and best example. First thing he did was expel every NGO, second thing? Ventilate a bunch of internationalists.

Yeah the west is in pretty bad shape right now. There is a whole lot of toxic stuff that's really bad. Be nice if it wasn't there but I guess when a guilt based society gets rid of the god that forgives them it goes insane.

 

[Scottty]

Yeah the west is in pretty bad shape right now. There is a whole lot of toxic stuff that's really bad. Be nice if it wasn't there but I guess when a guilt based society gets rid of the god that forgives them it goes insane.

That's quite profound.

I think we all know that the Progressives/Leftists/Secularists/etc "got rid of" God because they thought that they would thereby rid themselves of the guilt, and therefore of any need for forgiveness.
Seems not to have worked out that way for them.

 

[posh-goofiness]

They didn't get rid of God for themselves. They got rid of God for everyone else. They were already immoral nihilists. They needed to drag everyone else into their filth.

 

[Skallagrim]

They needed to drag everyone else into their filth.

Exactly. So not God, but Satan. Their whole approach is purely Satanic. Evil cannot win. Evil has already lost, and is doomed to be annihilated. It wants you to doom yourself to be annihilated along with it.

The radicals (in all their warped iterations) are just a secularised expression of devil-worship.

 

[Agent23]

They didn't get rid of God for themselves. They got rid of God for everyone else. They were already immoral nihilists. They needed to drag everyone else into their filth.

For many of them, god is Big Guv.

Exactly. So not God, but Satan. Their whole approach is purely Satanic. Evil cannot win. Evil has already lost, and is doomed to be annihilated. It wants you to doom yourself to be annihilated along with it.

The radicals (in all their warped iterations) are just a secularised expression of devil-worship.

Normal totalitarian statist/corporatist behavior.