United States Trump v Kamala Harris 2024

[Free-Stater 101]

Something that rather bothers me about this election is the endless rants about how Trump voters are 'uneducated' or otherwise less educated.

That has always been a Democrat talking point they are college educated elitist just like like outright Marxist who use higher education as a cudgel to act as if their holier/smarter opinion is the only one with merit.

It's also a double standard, if you have a degree in Agriculture, Welding, as a Machinist, Maintenace or Engineering, the is fact is that your opinion isn't relevant even if you took a few of the same courses as electives for the purpose of getting the degree.

Go to many Colleges and you will find the above trades, if taught at all are segregated as far from the main campus as possible, understandable due to noise concerns, but ask a liberal who graduated why that is and they will give a million elitist excuses as to why they "weren't worthy" of being closer to campus.

So this makes more sense once you realize that what the Democrats want is, in effect, a Technocracy* with the Managerial class as the base from which the Technocrats rise. To enter the Managerial Class one must have accreditation and go through the proper rituals and molding, AKA "a college degree".

Those who do not have this accreditation are thus seen as "lesser" people who do not deserve a voice, since they are not part of the correct class of people.

Democrats have been doing this for years, and it goes back to Communism and more specifically Lenin. The underlying idea is that of people having a "False Consciousness" and thus need a small group of elite to lead them. You see this all the time when Democrats talk about people "voting against their interests", where somehow the Democrats know better what a person's political interests are than the people themselves making the decision**, this is their way of saying a group of people has that "false consciousness" and they should not be allowed to make decisions for themselves, but rather, they should listen to the vanguard party... I mean... the Democrats.

It's communism all the way down. -.-
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* By the way, this ideal is also why you're seeing the Left turn on Elon Musk so hard and fast, he's a technocrat who's betrayed their ideals and sided with the non-technocrats. He's a CLASS TRAITOR in their eyes, though they won't say that explicitly. It's also what underlies so much of the hatred towards Trump.

** So this actually CAN happen, but not the in the way Democrats think. Generally speaking it only happens in very local "non-political" elections for positions that are very local and kinda obscure, IE

This.

 

[Grant Us Eyes]

I'd argue he went nuts well before then, when Brexit was happening.

It's not that he's nuts(which he is), it's that he's also a straight-up idiot. Someone did a highlight reel of Thunderfoot's Starship 4 Livestream, pointing out his various flubs and brainfarts, and it's to the point that makes me question why anyone ever took him seriously on anything.

 

[Robovski]

I was surprised to hear that hack Thunderfoot was still running a channel, I hadn't heard of him for like a decade.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

I was surprised to hear that hack Thunderfoot was still running a channel, I hadn't heard of him for like a decade.

He has made, or I guess 'used to make', good videos debunking popular investment scams and stuff.

 

[Zachowon]

He has made, or I guess 'used to make', good videos debunking popular investment scams and stuff.

That's how o found him, stopped as I moved on content wise but never knew what happend

 

[Blasterbot]

That's how o found him, stopped as I moved on content wise but never knew what happend

I stopped after his reaction to Trump in 2016. he was clearly too biased to listen to on those topics.

 

[Captain X]

I used to watch him back during GamerGate because he was one of the first ones to come out against Atheism+ and identity politics. He survived several attempts to cancel him over that thanks to the employer he had at the time. I almost wonder if he didn't lose his shit over a need to prove that he's still a liberal and not a conservative or some bullshit like that. Kind of like JustSomeGuy did a heelfaceturn, too. Like they didn't like some many right-leaning types giving them kudos or something.

 

[Blasterbot]

I used to watch him back during GamerGate because he was one of the first ones to come out against Atheism+ and identity politics. He survived several attempts to cancel him over that thanks to the employer he had at the time. I almost wonder if he didn't lose his shit over a need to prove that he's still a liberal and not a conservative or some bullshit like that. Kind of like JustSomeGuy did a heelfaceturn, too. Like they didn't like some many right-leaning types giving them kudos or something.

SFO also has that issue. for some reason there are a fair number of Liberals and Centrists who if they feel their audience is too right wing will turn around and start attacking the audience to purge the wrong thinkers. it doesn't get them more views usually. just nets them a smaller audience and a crowd of people who feel betrayed by the creator.

Used to like SFO. his longform content was well researched. but goddamn am I tired of him regularly derailing about Jan 6th for a 40 minute to hour long tangent that I've already heard more than a dozen times. I've even stopped watching podcasts I normally watch when he appears on the episode. I just can't listen to him anymore. He just starts sperging and then claiming he won when the concurrent viewer count goes down.

 

[Captain X]

SFO?

 

[stephen the barbarian]

SFO?

short fat otaku -i.e. "fascism is honest socialism"

 

[Captain X]

short fat otaku -i.e. "fascism is honest socialism"

Oh. I have to admit I never much cared for him. "It's a Gundam!" is way more entertaining.

 

[Blasterbot]

He went and dug up some memes that Corey Comperatore had retweeted and was saying that made him sus and that it kinda made him getting shot not completely black and white. He then went on a podcast did a long drawn out apology that basically went "I'm sorry but only for digging into him right then and should have waited is the struggle session over yet?" after that same day he went on another podcast that was doing a call in show that mentioned the drama and he came on and spent 45 minutes derailing about Jan 6th and then said he wasn't sorry for anything he did or said relating to the Comperatore drama. he then tried to go back to talking about Jan 6th and got kicked off the call. he then did his own stream to call the guy bad faith and dumb.

This was the straw that broke the camels back for me. he had done similar less bad things and was getting annoying to listen to with consistently bad takes before that on several other occasions. but talking about a dead firefighter like that just fucking got me mad. guy saved peoples lives putting his own on the line for years. then he gets shot and some fucking internet retards think some mean tweets mean he deserved to die. he basically just ended up parroting Destiny's talking points the next day for most of his takes.

 

[Terthna]

He went and dug up some memes that Corey Comperatore had retweeted and was saying that made him sus and that it kinda made him getting shot not completely black and white. He then went on a podcast did a long drawn out apology that basically went "I'm sorry but only for digging into him right then and should have waited is the struggle session over yet?" after that same day he went on another podcast that was doing a call in show that mentioned the drama and he came on and spent 45 minutes derailing about Jan 6th and then said he wasn't sorry for anything he did or said relating to the Comperatore drama. he then tried to go back to talking about Jan 6th and got kicked off the call. he then did his own stream to call the guy bad faith and dumb.

This was the straw that broke the camels back for me. he had done similar less bad things and was getting annoying to listen to with consistently bad takes before that on several other occasions. but talking about a dead firefighter like that just fucking got me mad. guy saved peoples lives putting his own on the line for years. then he gets shot and some fucking internet retards think some mean tweets mean he deserved to die. he basically just ended up parroting Destiny's talking points the next day for most of his takes.

My breaking point was when I heard years ago that he apparently staged an ambush on his podcast with his trans friend Lillith (whom he white knighted for constantly on social media), against a former trans person who had detransitioned.

 

[stephen the barbarian]

Corey Comperatore

aiui: that was the last straw for a large part his watchers

 

[Zachowon]

I stopped after his reaction to Trump in 2016. he was clearly too biased to listen to on those topics.

I think he was with a bunch of people that lost it in 2016 due to Trump winning

 

[SoliFortissimi]

Trump officially has less than 50% of the votes now. He can no longer claim to have the support of the majority of the voters.

 

[Bacle]

Trump officially has less than 50% of the votes now. He can no longer claim to have the support of the majority of the voters.

Sure he can, so long as his number is above Kamala's.

Because the vote totals still include RFK Jr on some ballots, as well as Jill Stein and the Green Party and the Libertarian Party.

It's a pathetic bit of baiting on your part, because I'm pretty sure at least one other person has already explained this to you before in a thread related to this election.

Guess it's your selective amnesia about posts here coming into play again.

Edit: And that is assuming any ballots being counted nearly a month on from the election are actually legitimate, and not ballot stuffing to try to flip down ballot races.

 

[Navarro]

Harris campaign has admitted their internals never had Kamala polling above Trump lol.

Sooo, apparently according to Fox News they had this in their internals but gave the big donors and even the DNC, shall we say, a rosier picture.

Harris never led Trump, internal polls showed — but DNC officials were kept in the dark

A top adviser to Kamala Harris said internal campaign polls never saw her beating Trump, despite her public polling posture.

www.foxnews.com

I have a pretty good guess where some of that billion dollars went ...

 

[SoliFortissimi]

Sure he can, so long as his number is above Kamala's

.....do you know what "majority" means? Because it doesn't mean "largest share of the whole", that's plurality.

And that is assuming any ballots being counted nearly a month on from the election are actually legitimate, and not ballot stuffing to try to flip down ballot races.

By all means, prove it in court.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

Trump officially has less than 50% of the votes now. He can no longer claim to have the support of the majority of the voters.

*SNORT*

Boromir "Yes the Hobbits walked into Mordor but there was nothing 'simple' about it so my point stands!"

The fact is that Trump won the majority of votes by any metrics that actually matters, he won the 'majority' not of the total votes cast nationally in which case you are quiet correct he did not, but the majority of votes cast among candidates in general and that is what actually matters, it's not unnatural or even a bad sign in most cases for this to happen unless the vote is insanely split although it is less than ideal, in fact it has happened with little fanfare a total of fourteen times during the course of our nation's history, we are no stranger to it and it has been growing towards that trend further each election year, with the spread of polarization, the rise of the internet and the increasing popularities of third parties bought about by it.

Then there is the fact that Trump's percentage is still 49.82% meaning he is only barely off that mark by 0.018% to the point it is barely worth mentioning, if he had like 36.91% percent amid an extremely heavily split vote between three or four equally low preforming candidates, I would agree it isn't a great sign, but it isn't that severe.