United States The Glowie Infestation: No Longer a Fringe Excuse

when the insitution has a culture of corruption there comes a time when you don't have a choice but to get rid of them.
Yep,option zero.
Poland is suffering till now,becouse we let commies remain in secret services.
Just made new ones with new people,who never worked for goverment.


The NSA is a threat to our existence and the CIA surrendered Latin America to China lmao.

These entities are useless and full of traitors.
Well,CIA at least did sometching...but for China....


Name something the 'No Such Agency' has actually done to keep Americans safe.
I am sure,that they are watching us ! only thanks to them we do not take over USA !
Is it not enough? :)
 
The NSA is literally the reason we are able to actively defend the nation in ways you wouldn't understand.
Gut all the people at the top.
Simple as
Which is practically impossible without dismantling the organization in its entirety anyways, and wouldn't do anything to address the culture issues that will just see them replaced with equally corrupt individuals.
 
Name something the 'No Such Agency' has actually done to keep Americans safe.
The entire cybersecurity of the US government and the military.
They are one of the kost important intelligence agencies for the United States Military and are crucial for making sure we don't have a Pearl Harbor 2.0
 
The entire cybersecurity of the US government and the military.
They are one of the kost important intelligence agencies for the United States Military and are crucial for making sure we don't have a Pearl Harbor 2.0
From who?

The Russians? They’re a little busy right now and most of their navy has to get out of the Black Sea or the Danish Belts. The shit that’s located in the arctic and pacific aren’t as a big a threat, and I’d think most of the alphabet agencies would be keeping an eye on their anchorages. Besides which Russia has never had what you’d call a premier navy, and I doubt that their ships have done any better in the post Cold War Russian state than the rest of their MIC.

The Chinese? Their blue water navy is barely worthy of the name and they’re hemmed in by the Japanese, the Philippines, or the Indians respectively. I’d think someone would notice their navy moving. Besides that, they’re to tied into the western economic system, right now, to even want to do it. It’d take years of decoupling their economy from the west, and a decade or more of naval build up, to even have a chance at pulling something like that off.

Those are the only two nations with anything even approaching the capability to pull off Pearl Harbor 2: Electric Boogaloo. All the other countries in the world are either our Allies, economic satrapies, or do not have a navy to do it.

This is nothing more than scaremongering to try and put us off wanting an organization, that has been blatantly violating American constitutional rights, either disbanded or deeply reformed.
 
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That is the purview of the DIA not the NSA.
The NSA is part of the DoD and is the center for SIGINT and Cyber operations.
Because it would basically make the DIA the NSA and make things worse because more power to one person.
From who?

The Russians? They’re a little busy right now and most of their navy has to get out of the Black Sea or the Danish Belts. The shit that’s located in the arctic and pacific aren’t as a big a threat, and I’d think most of the alphabet agencies would be keeping an eye on their anchorages. Besides which Russia has never had what you’d call a premier navy, and I doubt that their ships have done any better in the post Cold War Russian state than the rest of their MIC.

The Chinese? Their blue water navy is barely worthy of the name and they’re hemmed in by the Japanese, the Philippines, or the Indians respectively. I’d think someone would notice their navy moving. Besides that, they’re to tied into the western economic system, right now, to even want to do it. It’d take years of decoupling their economy from the west, and a decade or more of naval build up, to even have a chance at pulling something like that off.

Those are the only two nations with anything even approaching the capability to pull off Pearl Harbor 2: Electric Boogaloo. All the other countries in the world are either our Allies, economic satrapies, or do not have a navy to do it.

This is nothing more than scaremongering to try and put us off wanting an organization, that has been blatantly violating American constitutional rights, either disbanded or deeply reformed.
Ah yes, completely gut the core to the national defense because the enemy is not currently capable.
That hasn't hurt us before.
Not at all.
Really? So what is their excuse for 9/11?
We were focused on LSCO and focused on what we saw at the time.
 
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Really surprised to see someone defend the NSA.
I'm not. Zach is a glowie himself. It's only natural he defends his class against the ignorant rubes in the civilian sector./s

Ah yes, completely gut the core to the national defense because the enemy is not currently capable.
That hasn't hurt us before.
Not at all.
Ah yes. Let’s not focus at all on the current realities of the situation, and instead scaremonger about some nebulous future threat to the glowie budget the American populace.

Surely entrusting insane amounts of power to people and agencies that have proven, repeatedly mind you, that they’ll abuse it hasn’t ever bit any nation or people in the ass.
 
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I'm not. Zach is a glowie himself. It's only natural he defends his class against the ignorant rubes in the civilian sector./s


Ah yes. Let’s not focus at all on the current realities of the situation, and instead scaremonger about some nebulous future threat to the glowie budget the American populace.

Surely entrusting insane amounts of power to people and agencies that have proven, repeatedly, that they’ll abuse it hasn’t ever bit any nation or people in the ass.
See. The issue with signing why the NSA exists and it's capabilities is very hard to do because of how classified the shit is.
Not because it involves US Persons because of how we get things and the sources are what want to remain classifies
 
Ah yes, completely gut the core to the national defense because the enemy is not currently capable.
That hasn't hurt us before.
Not at all.
The problem is that you never notice the real enemy in the room. The US government is an American's greatest enemy. It is responsible for more damage and more freedom loss of and to Americans than Russians, Ukranians, the CCP or ISIS could ever hope to do.

Saying that the NSA defends from enemies when the NSA is an enemy isn't much help. The NSA purposely has tried to repeatedly quash encryption, is constantly snooping and infringing on civil rights, and that's just the stuff we know about.
 
The NSA is literally the reason we are able to actively defend the nation in ways you wouldn't understand.
Gut all the people at the top.
Simple as
Thel, the NSA is a glorified anti-American-citizen organization owned by the real leaders of America.

As far as I am concerned, the best scenario is their immediate resignation and suicide.

The NSA isn't there to stop Xi from taking over, or to stop the scary Russians, it's to keep ordinary people in line, or else.
 
Really? So what is their excuse for 9/11?

Robert Mueller caused 9-11 after that massive error in the Pentagon's budget was found.

...So I'm sure the NSA stayed silent and did their boys a solid.

See. The issue with signing why the NSA exists and it's capabilities is very hard to do because of how classified the shit is.
Not because it involves US Persons because of how we get things and the sources are what want to remain classifies


It'll all be shutdown in a matter of years now


The people are turning on the Glowies at last.
 
We were focused on LSCO and focused on what we saw at the time.

They caused 9-11.

They did it, the hijackers were trained and funded by the US IC.

this was done to push the patriot act through and to cover for one of the biggest acts of embezzlement in human history where over a trillion dollars was stolen by those piece of shit traitors in the PentPentagon's.

Over 20,000 people have been mortally poisoned by the dust clouds and debris just so the US IC could keep tis cold war era slavery of the American citizen going.
 
The NSA is part of the DoD and is the center for SIGINT and Cyber operations.
Because it would basically make the DIA the NSA and make things worse because more power to one person.

Ah yes, completely gut the core to the national defense because the enemy is not currently capable.
That hasn't hurt us before.
Not at all.

We were focused on LSCO and focused on what we saw at the time.
Zach, do you understand that continuing to defend and try to paper over the abuses of the IC against American citizens, regardless of their natsec usefulness, is part of why people do not want to join the military or serve the US gov?

If the response to pointing out IC abuses is just 'we need them for natsec because our foreign enemies are doing X or might do X', and not any acknowledgement of the abuses and that they were wrong, then why should people trust the IC to be actually useful against our enemies, instead of just another boot DC uses against internal opposition?

When the US intel services are acting more like the NKVD every day, and you spend more time defending the IC than admitting or addressing it's fuck ups and the reasons it's lost the public trust, it makes it seem like you do not care what abuses are taken against the citizens of the US, so long as the DoD usefulness of the IC is not compromised.

The intel services are not above US law, the US Constitution, or above reproach at all, and this may hurt to hear, but dead or blown IC assets are worth it to stop and deal with domestic intel abuses when they've gone as far as they have.
 
Zach, do you understand that continuing to defend and try to paper over the abuses of the IC against American citizens, regardless of their natsec usefulness, is part of why people do not want to join the military or serve the US gov?

If the response to pointing out IC abuses is just 'we need them for natsec because our foreign enemies are doing X or might do X', and not any acknowledgement of the abuses and that they were wrong, then why should people trust the IC to be actually useful against our enemies, instead of just another boot DC uses against internal opposition?

When the US intel services are acting more like the NKVD every day, and you spend more time defending the IC than admitting or addressing it's fuck ups and the reasons it's lost the public trust, it makes it seem like you do not care what abuses are taken against the citizens of the US, so long as the DoD usefulness of the IC is not compromised.

The intel services are not above US law, the US Constitution, or above reproach at all, and this may hurt to hear, but dead or blown IC assets are worth it to stop and deal with domestic intel abuses when they've gone as far as they have.
The assets arnt people but methods in the case with the NSA.
And doing so would legit allow our adversaries to be untouchable because it takes decades to get methods in place, and once lost you can not get them back.

They arnt abive the constitution.
The amount if training I have to do because of the constitution is immense...
But the NSA is mandatory in protection of the US.
Without it the US will lose every war or battle we face
 

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