Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022

[Airedale260]

He said it was only a partial quote on video; my guess is the inference comes from the way the MiG sale/exchange/whatever is going and the knock-on implications from it, as well as Biden's support for it.

I think what Biden is implying, in his stumbling speech, is that if Poland was to unilaterally do the MiG sale to Ukraine, and not requesting the US act as a intermediary, they would still be protected by Article 5, in case Russia decides it counts as NATO entering Ukraine.

Also keep in mind that he knows Poland won’t do the MiG sale without the U.S. replacing them with F-16s. Which we could fairly easily do, but there’s a suggestion that Putin might have privately told him if the fighters were transferred over, they’d be considered an act of war, despite that being entirely business as usual for both sides during the Cold War and an accepted way of doing things.

Putin knows that threatening World War III is the only hope he has of not getting his shit shoved in so far he pukes it up. But at the same time, if his bluff is called, he has two options: 1) Back down and be humiliated even further, or 2) launch and then watch as he personally gets targeted for causing this whole shit storm in the first damn place.

Nobody wants World War III, but at the same time, playing stupid games like this run the risk of causing it. If Putin were to set off chemical weapons in Ukraine, and the gas trickles into Poland? Or he causes a radiological accident (or “accident”) at Chernobyl and it drifts into Western Europe? That is usage of a WMD against NATO members, and at that point, all bets are off and NATO has to respond.

To quote a classic, “The only winning move is not to play.” But Putin ignored this and continues to ignore it at his own peril.

 

[Chiron]

Ehh given erodgan has been squabbling with nato he warmed up to Moscow a lot recently.

So much so that if Assad weren't such a cartoonish villain, Erdogan could have been bought off. Erdogan draws the line on raping and torturing children over a joke which is what started the whole Syrian Civil War.

Putin knows that but every time he tried to marginalize and remove Assad, Iran outmaneuvered him.



Putin is like: Just croak already so I can install a new puppet. A younger more voluptuous one like the former Ukrainian Prime Minister so I can trick the gullible woke left.



DPR and LPR forces pressing on.



Syrian and Iraqi Rebels are now sending this dude a proper manual to making homemade weapons and mistakes to avoid.



Looks like a hit from a standard RPG round with insufficient power.

Spoiler: Body was shown.

Hmm, it would be more convincing if they didn't splice footage of three different areas hundreds of km apart to sell their narrative.

But the main thing, here, the first tank hit, was likely hit in the fuel tank, starting a fire which was extinguished, a clear mission kill till rear services fix it. Infantry immediately dismount from their carriers and move to a defensible position as another tank uses a tree for additional cover and begins firing HE-Frag in flakburst mode.

Appears there was a second ATGM that misfired.

Overall assessment, 40 minute delay of this Russian Column, ambushers wiped out. No operational change of Russian Momentum.

 

[Bacle]

So much so that if Assad weren't such a cartoonish villain, Erdogan could have been bought off. Erdogan draws the line on raping and torturing children over a joke which is what started the whole Syrian Civil War.

Putin knows that but every time he tried to marginalize and remove Assad, Iran outmaneuvered him.



Putin is like: Just croak already so I can install a new puppet. A younger more voluptuous one like the former Ukrainian Prime Minister so I can trick the gullible woke left.



DPR and LPR forces pressing on.



Syrian and Iraqi Rebels are now sending this dude a proper manual to making homemade weapons and mistakes to avoid.



Looks like a hit from a standard RPG round with insufficient power.

Spoiler: Body was shown.

Hmm, it would be more convincing if they didn't splice footage of three different areas hundreds of km apart to sell their narrative.

But the main thing, here, the first tank hit, was likely hit in the fuel tank, starting a fire which was extinguished, a clear mission kill till rear services fix it. Infantry immediately dismount from their carriers and move to a defensible position as another tank uses a tree for additional cover and begins firing HE-Frag in flakburst mode.

Appears there was a second ATGM that misfired.

Overall assessment, 40 minute delay of this Russian Column, ambushers wiped out. No operational change of Russian Momentum.

I would like to disagree with you, but some other people on Planefag's Discord who are studying Ukraine have said it was spliced too, so you are likely right about those vids.

 

[Bacle]

Was wondering how well Poland was going to deal with an influx of refugees.

 

[Vaermina]

Overall assessment, 40 minute delay of this Russian Column, ambushers wiped out. No operational change of Russian Momentum.

By which you mean their backwards momentum?

 

[Bacle]

Kiev residents digging trenches. Not a huge surprise; I think Zelenski wants to turn Kiev into his own little Stalingrad.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Video of the destruction of a town north of Kyiv.



Yesterday, Russian Civilian Airliners were acting... odd for some reason.



Theories range from using emergencies to evade airspace bans, a form of protest or legitimate emergencies due to shortfalls and limitations already brought about by sanctions and the like.

Buk Air Defense System driving past some Russian soldiers digging stuff. Dog also present for some reason.



An American veteran who apparently quit his job, went to Poland, bought an ambulance and is helping refugees in the area.



Putin is reportedly cracking down on the FSB for its Ukrainian Prep Work.

From bad intel to worse Putin reportedly turns on FSB agency that botched Russia’s Ukraine prep — Meduza

As Russia’s war against Ukraine enters its third week, President Vladimir Putin is cracking down on his favorite agency — the FSB. Journalists Andrei Soldatov and Irina Borogan, who have long specialized in covering Russia’s security services, report that the FSB’s foreign intelligence arm, the...

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Media interview and profile of Suheil Mahmoud Muhammad or 'Abu Tow,' a famed Syrian Fighter who earned his nickname by allegedly being responsible for the destruction of over a hundred Syrian Regime and Allied vehicles during the Civil War. During this profile, he expressed a desire to fight on behalf of the Ukrainians stating “What drives me to leave the Syrian front and go to Ukraine, is that the Russian regime is the enemy of the Syrian and Ukrainian people and the enemy of freedom, democracy and human rights," and “There is no difference between destroying Russian tanks and armoured vehicles, whether in Syria or Ukraine. These tanks are committing massacres against my Ukrainian brothers and sisters, and when they are finished in Ukraine, they will continue to kill my Syrian brothers and sisters."

Meet the famed and feared elite Syrian rebel fighter Abu Tow

The New Arab Meets: Suheil Mahmoud Muhammad or ‘Abu Tow’ who has destroyed 146 tanks and aircraft of the Syrian regime and now wants to go to Ukraine and take on the Russians. He shares his story and future plans with The New Arab.

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Story of one refugee fleeing from Ukraine to Poland with her family and others, including a span of her having to carry her elderly German Shepherd the last several miles to the Polish border.

Ukraine-Russia crisis: ‘I left my husband behind at the border. My heart is broken’

Alisa, 35, who fled to Poland with her family and dogs, describes their dangerous and emotional journey

www.theguardian.com

I’m a Python programmer and I work for a German company, and they helped me leave Ukraine for Poland. We left Kyiv in a small Peugeot 307 car. There were nine of us, me, my mum, my sister, our two husbands, four children and two big dogs, including an elderly German shepherd. It was impossible to move inside the car. We drove for 16 hours to a village about 140km from Kyiv.

We decided to leave the village later in the morning because it was dangerous, even there. Near the border with Poland there were a lot of cars and we couldn’t stay in the car for the next three – or five – days, so we decided to walk the last 17km to the border. We left at 4am – it was minus seven degrees. It was a hard trip around mountains and rivers. My kids were crying because of the cold. I wanted to cry too but I couldn’t give up … it was my idea to go to the border.

 

[Bacle]

Video of the destruction of a town north of Kyiv.



Yesterday, Russian Civilian Airliners were acting... odd for some reason.



Theories range from using emergencies to evade airspace bans, a form of protest or legitimate emergencies due to shortfalls and limitations already brought about by sanctions and the like.

Buk Air Defense System driving past some Russian soldiers digging stuff. Dog also present for some reason.



An American veteran who apparently quit his job, went to Poland, bought an ambulance and is helping refugees in the area.



Putin is reportedly cracking down on the FSB for its Ukrainian Prep Work.



Media interview and profile of Suheil Mahmoud Muhammad or 'Abu Tow,' a famed Syrian Fighter who earned his nickname by allegedly being responsible for the destruction of over a hundred Syrian Regime and Allied vehicles during the Civil War. During this profile, he expressed a desire to fight on behalf of the Ukrainians stating “What drives me to leave the Syrian front and go to Ukraine, is that the Russian regime is the enemy of the Syrian and Ukrainian people and the enemy of freedom, democracy and human rights," and “There is no difference between destroying Russian tanks and armoured vehicles, whether in Syria or Ukraine. These tanks are committing massacres against my Ukrainian brothers and sisters, and when they are finished in Ukraine, they will continue to kill my Syrian brothers and sisters."



Story of one refugee fleeing from Ukraine to Poland with her family and others, including a span of her having to carry her elderly German Shepherd the last several miles to the Polish border.

Was just about to post the Abu TOW story myself.

See, I was right; not all Syrians going to Ukraine are going to fight for Russia; some are going to fight against Russia.

Edit: Something is going on with Russian airliners.


Edit 2: Another Russian airstike, this time on Kopany:


Edit 3:

 

[Bacle]

Edit: US has 4 B-52s over Romania for the last few days it seems.

 

[Bacle]

So Russia never tried to do SEAD missions in the first few days, and still are being highly risk averse with their planes due to Ukrainain SAMS being used wisely.


Edit: Also, looks like Russia is using it's ambulances to transport ammo; cannot say I'm surprised.

https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1501567325832724481

 

[Bacle]

Chinese are limiting the recon assets of Ukraine by using killswitches in the drones that got sold to Ukraine. This is another reason why no one should trust China.

Edit: Russian column captured intact, ammo and all:


Edit 2:


Edit 3:

 

[Bacle]

FSB in charge of Ukraine intel got raided by FSO, Putin's private security service.

 

[Vaermina]

Ukraine is falling. The math is against them, and their 'victories,' are getting closer to areas they can't lose.

Except Ukraine can loose everything since Russia is incapable of holding their gains against the resulting insurgency.

 

[Bacle]

Guess Assad finally ran out of tanks, and now Abu has no targets, so he's got TOW blue-balls, and Ukraine would give him plenty of Ruskie equipment to shoot at.

 

[prinCZess]

Oh, everyone remember the Soviet Banners a few posts back? I thought it was familiar. It stated: 150th Rifle, Order of Kutuzov 2nd class, Idritsa Division, 79th Rifle Corps, 3rd Shock Army, 1st Belorussian Front.

Their ancestors had better logistics.

But, then, their ancestors had American trucks, so I guess it checks out.

 

[Vaermina]

Not really. Most of the military equipment Russia has deployed is at least a generation behind their current best active service equipment. Most of the soldiers Russia has sent are conscript and contract forces. Most of the Russia Air Force is being kept out of the fight. Russian artillery relative to the size of the deployed force is anemic.

The List says otherwise.

 

[Bacle]

 

[Arch Dornan]

Has this been shared before? Apparently it's now legal to spew hatred towards anything Russian related to Ukraine.

Facebook allows posts with violent speech toward Russian soldiers in specific countries

Facebook’s policy exception applies in Ukraine

www.theverge.com

 

[Tiamat]

Has this been shared before? Apparently it's now legal to spew hatred towards anything Russian related to Ukraine.

Facebook allows posts with violent speech toward Russian soldiers in specific countries

Facebook’s policy exception applies in Ukraine

www.theverge.com

I would give anyone who uses Facebook the same warning as anyone using Twitter. "Always consume in moderation."

 

[Arch Dornan]

I would give anyone who uses Facebook the same warning as anyone using Twitter. "Always consume in moderation."

It's history repeating itself again.

Still if it's not facebook it'll be through another outlet to say death to Russia for the invasion for an outraged public that involves marching with signs like in the old days.