Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[Bacle]

 

[Bacle]

Very relavant video about the Russia hybrid/info war actions and techniques in regards to Ukraine and Russian info operations in general.

 

[AmosTrask]

I don't think the ccp is long for the world, Russias a fucking disaster but a new caliphate would be a serious threat

Now and again my tribal brain dreams of using the situation to kill two birds with one stone. Use some of the Russian and Chinese nuclear warheads on the Black Market that I'm quite sure the West has acquired for safekeeping. Then use some deniable assets to detonate them in Mecca from close enough to a known terrorist or extremists group's building. The Muslims will blame the Moslems and move to purge them. The Moslems will attack Russia and China and kill each other.

Then we move in and finish the weakened survivors.

I know it's my ingrained hatred against Muslims talking. I can dream though. A world without Muslim Fanatics trying to take our lands, and more importantly a world without China. Or at least a China balkanized and never again to unite.

 

[Cherico]

CCP China is an historical aberration the Chinese are normally a lot more ethical and honorable then what they are now under communism.

What you see today is a pale reflection of what they used to be.

 

[AmosTrask]

CCP China is an historical aberration the Chinese are normally a lot more ethical and honorable then what they are now under communism.

What you see today is a pale reflection of what they used to be.

Yeah. No. Ethical? Honorable? Only to neighbors with power to hurt them. Otherwise it's "Submit and pay tribute or Die."

 

[Cherico]

Yeah. No. Ethical? Honorable? Only to neighbors with power to hurt them. Otherwise it's "Submit and pay tribute or Die."

by historical standards, expecially ones for hedgemons with the kind of weight they historically had in the neighborhood yeah they were one of the nicer more ethical ones.

If you look at it from an historical point of view, their generally a better neightbor then most islamic empires, the mongols, the russians, the assyrians ect. Were they the best neightbor to have? um no, like a lot of great powers China could and did get very full of itself. For most of their history they could back up their ego with results.

Even today their one of the longest lasting civilizations in human history and thats honestly worth respecting.

 

[DarthOne]

Russian Oil Exports Rebound To Pre-War Levels Despite Western Sanctions

Russian Oil Exports Rebound To Pre-War Levels Despite Western Sanctions

Russian oil exports have rebounded to rates previously seen before the nation’s invasion of Ukraine despite sanctions imposed by Western countries. G7 nations, the European Union, and Australia impl

www.conservativenewsdaily.net

Russian oil exports have rebounded to rates previously seen before the nation's invasion of Ukraine despite sanctions imposed by Western countries.

G7 nations, the European Union, and Australia implemented a $60 per barrel price cap on Russian oil so that their maritime services industries, such as insurance and trade finance, can only offer their services for Russian oil sold below the benchmark. Russian oil exports in March nevertheless soared to the highest levels since April 2020 due to "surging product flows that returned to levels last seen before Russia invaded Ukraine," according to a monthly oil market report from the International Energy Agency.

Revenues from Russian oil exports meanwhile increased $1 billion last month to reach $12.7 billion, a metric which is still 43% lower than one year ago. The Russian government depends upon revenues from the energy sector to fill its coffers.

To avoid the price cap, Russia must depend upon maritime service industries outside of the G7, which are generally more expensive and less reliable.

The effort from Western nations to limit the Russian oil market has been resisted by countries that prioritize cheaper and more reliable sources of energy. China witnessed a 43% year-over-year increase in Russian oil imports as of two months ago, according to an analysis from S&P Global, which noted that China is willing to "snap up attractively priced crudes" shunned by Western nations. Russian economic actors now use the Chinese yuan more than the dollar as the two nations increase their trade cooperation.

Japan, a member of the G7, will likewise continue to purchase crude oil from a project in the far eastern portion of Russia such that the energy-poor island nation will continue to have access to the natural gas present at the site. "We have done this with an eye toward having a stable supply of energy for Japan," an official from the Japanese economy ministry said earlier this month in a statement.

Japan has been more hesitant than other G7 nations to express wholehearted support for Ukraine given their dependence on Russian energy. The nation provides roughly one-tenth of Japanese natural gas imports; Germany, which depended on Russia for more than half of natural gas imports before the invasion began early last year, rushed to secure other power sources as the cost of electricity soared more than tenfold last fall.

The International Energy Agency noted that a surprise oil production decrease from OPEC, an economic bloc constituting Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, and other countries with a large share of global oil production, will risk "aggravating an expected oil supply deficit" in the second half of 2023 and "boosting oil prices at a time of heightened economic uncertainty, even as industrial activity slows in the world's largest economies."

President Joe Biden has meanwhile earned criticism for approving the release of 180 million barrels from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, a stock of emergency crude oil created to manage supply disruptions in energy markets, depleting the reservoir even as the costs to refill the stores are now elevated. He also moved last year to enable American oil production in Venezuela and reportedly asked Saudi Arabia to delay oil production cuts until after the midterm elections.

It's amazing how quickly people turn back into 2003 war era lemmings when the military industrial complex tells them to.

When in the reality all Biden's "sanctions" have done is economically align Russia, China, and India together (which historically have natural adversaries). Hell. Even Japan is buying Oil from Russia.

I get why liberals support it- they think it's US "democracy" against russian "christian fascism" and the media supports it.

But conservatives? Firstly why are they believing the media? And secondly, what exactly about global liberalism is attractive to them?

Makes zero sense

 

[Blasterbot]

by historical standards, expecially ones for hedgemons with the kind of weight they historically had in the neighborhood yeah they were one of the nicer more ethical ones.

If you look at it from an historical point of view, their generally a better neightbor then most islamic empires, the mongols, the russians, the assyrians ect. Were they the best neightbor to have? um no, like a lot of great powers China could and did get very full of itself. For most of their history they could back up their ego with results.

Even today their one of the longest lasting civilizations in human history and thats honestly worth respecting.

Like a lot of things there is nuance. the damn near 4000 years of dynasties they've had have had wildly different attitudes. but generally they were better neighbors than most. certainly better than the Aztecs, Islam, or Communists.

 

[ATP]

Like a lot of things there is nuance. the damn near 4000 years of dynasties they've had have had wildly different attitudes. but generally they were better neighbors than most. certainly better than the Aztecs, Islam, or Communists.

Everybody is better then commies.

 

[DarthOne]

Everybody is better then commies.

Ehh. I’d say them and whatever ideology the WEF and their ike follow are about tied.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Ehh. I’d say them and whatever ideology the WEF and their ike follow are about tied.

They are both basically neo feudalism with a new coat of paint

 

[King Arts]

It involves fucking over Europe.
That is what France has always done

I think you are mixing it up with the UK.

 

[Zachowon]

I think you are mixing it up with the UK.

No, I am talking about France

 

[King Arts]

No, I am talking about France

France has not fucked up Europe. There are only two nations you can accuse of fucking up Europe Germany and the UK. Their little shit fits have caused Europe into catastrophic wars. France not bowing to the US every whim is not fucking up Europe.

 

[Jormungandr]

No, I am talking about France

He has a personal hate-boner for the UK -- he went on an utterly unhinged rant in another thread.

Don't take his word for shit when it comes to the UK and history as a whole.

 

[Blasterbot]

France has not fucked up Europe. There are only two nations you can accuse of fucking up Europe Germany and the UK. Their little shit fits have caused Europe into catastrophic wars. France not bowing to the US every whim is not fucking up Europe.

France had a lot of fuck ups. they pushed a lot of the lefty stuff and were trail blazers in it. but there is a lot of blame to go around.

 

[Zachowon]

France has not fucked up Europe. There are only two nations you can accuse of fucking up Europe Germany and the UK. Their little shit fits have caused Europe into catastrophic wars. France not bowing to the US every whim is not fucking up Europe.

The Frecnh revolution spawned a bunch of socialist ideals....and pushed then away from the church.
The French have done worse.
They also actively tried to conquer Europe more then Brits

He has a personal hate-boner for the UK -- he went on an utterly unhinged rant in another thread.

Don't take his word for shit when it comes to the UK and history as a whole.

Ahhhhhh

 

[mrttao]

Ehh. I’d say them and whatever ideology the WEF and their ike follow are about tied.

the WEF are commies though.

communism is the ultra rich galvanizing the poor to murder the middle class (the borguise) and abolishing human rights in the name of freedom.
By convincing the poor that everything that the ultra rich did to them was actually the fault of the middle class.

 

[DarthOne]

He has a personal hate-boner for the UK -- he went on an utterly unhinged rant in another thread.

Don't take his word for shit when it comes to the UK and history as a whole.

To be fair the UK’s political goals aren’t exactly subtle.

It’s even the point of a joke here:

 

[King Arts]

He has a personal hate-boner for the UK -- he went on an utterly unhinged rant in another thread.

Don't take his word for shit when it comes to the UK and history as a whole.

Lol, I don't have a personal hate boner. The Brits haven't screwed me over THIS century. I just realize your people are disloyal rats who should not be trusted at all, and the weaker you are the better for everyone else.

The Frecnh revolution spawned a bunch of socialist ideals....and pushed then away from the church.

True moving away from Church influence was bad, but they also had a few good things like getting rid of corrupt incompetent nobility and allowing a form of meritocracy. While the excess of the reign of terror were bad, the rise of Napeoleon was undoubtably a good thing.

They also actively tried to conquer Europe more then Brits

That's not actually a bad thing, again Rome which I assume you like based on your avatar, conquered Europe. It depends on what that conquest achieves if it spreads a strong empire that generally improves things builds infrastructure even advances technology that would be a good thing, and as long as they aren't too brutal on the new subjects.