Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[Agent23]

Nowhere in Russia does winter last that long. Five months max - November through March, to mid April maybe. Remember - the further north you go, the more sunlight hours you get between the equinoxes.

Maybe they just mean snow and sub-zero temperatures or something.

Take a look at the video I linked.

 

[Buba]

Take a look at the video I linked.

My browser is too old to show it

 

[mrttao]

Actually.
Moscow times.
And I was wrong.
Only 20% of Russians have plumbing.

Indoor Plumbing Still a Pipe Dream for 20% of Russian Households, Reports Say - The Moscow Times

More than one-fifth of Russian households do not have access to indoor plumbing, according to official statistics obtained by the RBC news website on Tuesday.

www.themoscowtimes.com

Your article says the numbers are backwards from what you are saying.
It is saying only 20% don't have indoor plumbing.
And of those, most have an outhouse toilet. so they do own toilets. They just do not connect to municipal sewage plumbing.

Of the 22.6 percent of households without a centralized sewage system, 16.8 percent use a system of pipes connected to pit toilets, RBC cited the State Statistics Service, Rosstat, as saying. The other 5.8 percent lack a sewage system altogether.

In rural Russia, almost two-thirds have no access to indoor toilets, 48.1 percent of whom use outhouses and 18.4 percent do not have a sewage system.

Only 9 percent of Russia's urban population reported lack of access to a sewage system.

Speaking of...
I was wondering how that compares to rural USA (as I hear a lot of off the grid houses use septic tanks).

Well, USA is a much better figure (0.39% of households, aka half a million households) but still disgracefully high.

but while russia has been improving in recent years, USA has been getting worse. And it is worst and also getting worst fastest in bluest areas (what a surprise!)

Almost half a million US households lack indoor plumbing: ‘The conditions are inhumane’

Renters and people of color are most likely to be living without water or flushing toilets in some of America’s wealthiest cities, new research shows

www.theguardian.com

Although unlike russia where the least access is in rural areas.
In USA the worst areas are very wealthy Democrat cities like San Fran. Homo capital of the world.
Where it is due to poverty, and it is rising sharply.

Renters make up fewer than half of households in the San Francisco metro area, but account for almost 90% of its plumbing poverty.

Yet often, those without plumbing spend more on rent than those with running water and flush toilets. In 2017 the average unplumbed renter in San Francisco spent 44% of their monthly income to live in a home without piped running water, while the typical city resident spent 32% on a home with full plumbing.

In other words, renters with incomplete plumbing are a growing subclass in one of the richest and so-called progressive US cities, according to the PPP analysis.

goddamned democrats ruin everything they touch

 

[Agent23]

Your article says the numbers are backwards from what you are saying.
It is saying only 20% don't have indoor plumbing.
And of those, most have an outhouse toilet. so they do own toilets. They just do not connect to municipal sewage plumbing.

Speaking of...
I was wondering how that compares to rural USA (as I hear a lot of off the grid houses use septic tanks).

Well, USA is a much better figure (0.39% of households, aka half a million households) but still disgracefully high.

but while russia has been improving in recent years, USA has been getting worse. And it is worst and also getting worst fastest in bluest areas (what a surprise!)

Almost half a million US households lack indoor plumbing: ‘The conditions are inhumane’

Renters and people of color are most likely to be living without water or flushing toilets in some of America’s wealthiest cities, new research shows

www.theguardian.com

Although unlike russia where the least access is in rural areas.
In USA the worst areas are very wealthy Democrat cities like San Fran. Homo capital of the world.
Where it is due to poverty, and it is rising sharply.

goddamned democrats ruin everything they touch

As I said, there are places where the pipes would literally freeze over because of the extreme cold, in others there just aren't enough people, and the commies usually disregarded most of the country side because of muh socialism and corralling most people in cities.

 

[Agent23]

My browser is too old to show it

Just update it, ancient browsers have security holes.

 

[Bacle]

Girkin having a regular one.

 

[Largo]

Umm now it is more independent but remember that the US did make it a puppet for a long time it removed it's right to have an army something every other nation in the world had. They had to do with a self defense force a glorified police force it was only through decades where it grew and became a de facto army.

It's the US which has tried to take that back for 73 years, and the Japanese who consistently said "No, we remember when we had an army, it fucking sucked and we got nuked." If Japan was a puppet, they would have had a real army a long time ago, not the other way around.

 

[Cherico]

It's the US which has tried to take that back for 73 years, and the Japanese who consistently said "No, we remember when we had an army, it fucking sucked and we got nuked." If Japan was a puppet, they would have had a real army a long time ago, not the other way around.

It's less the getting nuked thing and more that the Japanese army were assholes who constantly got the country in trouble, disobeyed orders and assassinated political leaders and bullied people.

 

[King Arts]

It's the US which has tried to take that back for 73 years, and the Japanese who consistently said "No, we remember when we had an army, it fucking sucked and we got nuked." If Japan was a puppet, they would have had a real army a long time ago, not the other way around.

Yeah, I know now we want to get that back and have Japan pull more weight. I'm saying that NOW in modern times Japan is free for the most part. But it did use to be a puppet.

 

[Agent23]

It's the US which has tried to take that back for 73 years, and the Japanese who consistently said "No, we remember when we had an army, it fucking sucked and we got nuked." If Japan was a puppet, they would have had a real army a long time ago, not the other way around.

You really are underestimating their actual military capabilities.
Their "helicopter carriers" are large enough to accommodate jet fighters, they also have fast nuclear breakout capabilities
And very good ASW.

They have what they need to defend themselves and quickly develop deterrence if China becomes a problem.
So, they don't really care about anything else.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

It's less the getting nuked thing and more that the Japanese army were assholes who constantly got the country in trouble, disobeyed orders and assassinated political leaders and bullied people.

Yeah. I think Japan could do with a larger army, but the mass conscript force and its influence is gratefully long gone.

Although they don’t seem to be nearly as worried with the Navy, which as an Englishman I can only heartily commend.

 

[Cherico]

Yeah. I think Japan could do with a larger army, but the mass conscript force and its influence is gratefully long gone.

Although they don’t seem to be nearly as worried with the Navy, which as an Englishman I can only heartily commend.

Japans an island nation once unified investing in the navy at the expense of the army makes sense.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Looks like Laibach concert in Kiev is cancelled.

 

[Agent23]

Looks like Laibach concert in Kiev is cancelled.

No idea what that is?

 

[Buba]

No idea what that is?

Laibach - that's the German name of Ljublana - is a Slovenian rock band.
Their main reson for fame is taking a la-la pop song about Happy!People by some long haired junkies boys band:

and making it into a gloomy, heavy, EVUL!NAZI! song by dudes in hunting uniforms



Warnings:
- very cheap video
- disturbing imagery:
a/ human female nipples (making it extreme porn in USA)
b/ human male nipples, on shirtless and skinny dude

Sounds even better in German:


A friend of mine, fluent in German, says they have a "cutesy Slavic accent".

 

[mrttao]

No idea what that is?

slovanian band of musicians

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Your article says the numbers are backwards from what you are saying.
It is saying only 20% don't have indoor plumbing.
And of those, most have an outhouse toilet. so they do own toilets. They just do not connect to municipal sewage plumbing.

Speaking of...
I was wondering how that compares to rural USA (as I hear a lot of off the grid houses use septic tanks).

U.S. rural households with septic tanks would still have indoor plumbing with flush toilets, which in functional terms offers the exact same quality of life as municipal waste pluming, differing mostly only in a few details of long term maintenance. An outhouse pit is a huge step down, not equivalent.

 

[Agent23]

U.S. rural households with septic tanks would still have indoor plumbing with flush toilets, which in functional terms offers the exact same quality of life as municipal waste pluming, differing mostly only in a few details of long term maintenance. An outhouse pit is a huge step down, not equivalent.

Yeah, I kinds doubt dealing with that will be a fun business when the temperature is very low most of the year.

Also, it is fascinating how this thread moved from two poles complaining to me about how I am in the wrong for not wanting to sacrifice myself or my country and the EU's interests over their obsession with Russia to toilets.

 

[Buba]

it is fascinating how this thread moved from two poles complaining to me about how I am in the wrong for not wanting to sacrifice myself or my country and the EU's interests over their obsession with Russia to toilets.

Indeed, the debate definitely went shitways!

 

[Agent23]

Indeed, the debate definitely went shitways!

You might say it got farted/pissed away.