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Floridaman

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Soooo remember how people mocked those of us who warned the sanctions weren't gonna work. Thr rouble has now officially regained all the value it lost from the sanctions.
 

Zachowon

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Do you know why?
Because they are forcing people to sell or buy anything in Ruble shooting it up.

If you have millions in stocks and you want to take them out in Euro because worth more. To bad, take them out in Ruble.

Artificial recovery
 

Floridaman

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Do you know why?
Because they are forcing people to sell or buy anything in Ruble shooting it up.

If you have millions in stocks and you want to take them out in Euro because worth more. To bad, take them out in Ruble.

Artificial recovery
it isn’t due to people selling stocks, the market there has also recovered it is because now if europe wants electricity they have to pay in roubles which means there is new demand for them. As for the recovery being artificial, so to was the damage from the sanctions
 

Zachowon

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it isn’t due to people selling stocks, the market there has also recovered it is because now if europe wants electricity they have to pay in roubles which means there is new demand for them. As for the recovery being artificial, so to was the damage from the sanctions
True. I was thinking of something earlier on the stocks part.

The Ruble is being held up by Germany basically
 

sillygoose

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True. I was thinking of something earlier on the stocks part.

The Ruble is being held up by Germany basically
And? The US dollar is held up by the Saudis only (for now) taking dollars exclusively for their oil for security promises, which is how the petro-dollar created the global reserve currency. Russia is just doing the same thing as the US with their customers. Turns out it is working. The rest of Europe will follow suit even if they have to go through Germany and their round-about financial deal to make it look like they're still paying in Euros.
 

King Arts

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Do you know why?
Because they are forcing people to sell or buy anything in Ruble shooting it up.

If you have millions in stocks and you want to take them out in Euro because worth more. To bad, take them out in Ruble.

Artificial recovery
I mean all financial stuff is artificial unless you go back to barter where it’s real all other stuff is a social construct.
 

Zachowon

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be sure to thank green energy for shutting down their nuclear plants. they tried replacing with renewables and failed so now they import from russia to make up the difference.
France can at least survive better then most of West Europe
 

Bacle

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After centuries of all of us bitching about french hippocracy that might be the very thing that saves them.
At this point if France wanted to remake it's empire and take over the 'lead' position in Western powers, I wouldn't mind.

At least with France people know what they are getting and what to expect, and France has experience at doing said empire shit competently.

Plus, if the US cannot unfuck itself, France is one of the few nations that might be able to unfuck us from the outside.
 

SchrodingersWehraboo

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Soooo remember how people mocked those of us who warned the sanctions weren't gonna work. Thr rouble has now officially regained all the value it lost from the sanctions.

So much for the “Ruble now worth less than roblox money” memes.
 

Bacle

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Well, guess we'll see how Moscow responds. Nationalizing assets is a big step, but Russia already did it first with the airliners.
 

sillygoose

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Well, guess we'll see how Moscow responds. Nationalizing assets is a big step, but Russia already did it first with the airliners.

They can't possibly be that retarded. They will be entirely cut off from gas and oil from Russia for this and suffer a revolution at home when the economy implodes.
 

Marnuplee

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Ukraine is nationalizing the property of Russian citizens and "persons with any citizenship who publically support the military operation". Note that it also applies to people "who conduct their main activities in Russia". The number of Ukrainean worker migrants in Russia is not insignificant and reached 2.7 - 3 million people in 2021 despite the Covid.
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