Quest Deep Periphery Quest (Battletech Sandbox Empire Builder)

Jarow

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[X] Release the civilian yards from emergency order

Being limited to 10% tax rate historically is pretty low (possible number adjustment with changing to the next stage of the quest after the final defeat of the Dragon makes that a bit less relevant, but I'm going to assume consistency). And now that we're past the emergency "we just lost all our transports" it should be fine to switch back to building out own in proper military yards.

[X] Support the Senate

We've been focusing on keeping the senate liking us as much as possible, no reason to lose that.
 

Val the Moofia Boss

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[X] Release the civilian yards from emergency order
[X] Support the Senate
- [X] "Individually determined by working groups of stakeholders " is pretty much the political buzzword for "let corrupt local interests write the rules to serve their own greed, without even the pretense of consistency".
 

Artifex

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[X] Release the civilian yards from emergency order
[X] Support the Senate
- [X] "Individually determined by working groups of stakeholders " is pretty much the political buzzword for "let corrupt local interests write the rules to serve their own greed, without even the pretense of consistency".

Yep, yep, like some already said, let's not tie up the civilian production too much, the injection in last turn was really helpful but ... I think things might normalize for the next few turns ... hopefully. :)
 

kashim3

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[X] Release the civilian yards from emergency order
[X] Support the Senate
- [X] "Individually determined by working groups of stakeholders " is pretty much the political buzzword for "let corrupt local interests write the rules to serve their own greed, without even the pretense of consistency".
 
Turn 76 - Brothers Everywhere

LordSunhawk

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Turn 76 - Brothers Everywhere

The Rasalhaguian and Roman forces who’d joined you on Okusawa did participate in the final pacification campaigns, and gave excellent service. Your commanders in the field were quite complimentary of them both, in fact. The troops were well-disciplined, the commanders were very willing to work within your command structure and caused no real issues, and they accomplished their assignments well.

All that being said, there’s a few problems. According to the quartermasters, a number of spare parts for Artemis guidance systems, active probes, ECM systems, AMS systems, advanced LRM launchers and munitions, and a few spare Enhanced PPCs have, well, decided to take a walk with Jesus. Nothing all that serious, and if they hadn’t been going over the books with a fine toothed comb in preparation for any possible after action reviews the missing equipment might well have fallen under the radar.

There’s no sign of any bribery or anything so gauche as that, rather it seems that the missing gear tended to vanish from the trucks transporting it from the dropships to supply depots, truck convoys that were escorted by your allies. In the course of which it seems the Rasalhaguians and Romans both engaged in a wee bit of creative pilferage.

It’s completely deniable on their part, of course, and nothing truly vital was taken. General Messerschmidt is understandably annoyed with himself. The supply depots themselves are airtight in this regard, but in the scramble to deploy the allied reinforcements and the chaos of combat operations it appears that security on the kit at the drop port and at the depot had failed to coordinate, the drop port security thought that the depot was handling in-transit security, the supply depot people thought the drop port folks were handling it… which thusly meant that nobody was handling it. That the Rasalhaguians and Romans were so restrained in their pilfering is the real wonder of it all.

The ambassadors for both the NRR and NRI have solemnly pledged full investigations into the matter, but you can’t help but notice that neither of them has actually promised to give anything back. The tacit ‘finders keepers’ combined with ‘we stole it fair and square’. Lovely.

You like that better when you are the one doing it.

You get the reports from the Olympics and it looks like Team Griffon is getting back in form. While you split the wrestling event with the Romans following a truly abysmal performance by the men’s team, the ladies’ win in the event seems to set the tone for the next several days of competitions. The men’s fencing competition is a blowout for Team Griffon, with only the Rasalhaguians offering any sort of challenge. In the women’s fencing the Rasalhaguians manage to barely outpoint the Griffon women in a thrilling match. You actually take the time to watch it and are very impressed by both sides, and even more so by the genuine comradery both teams show at the end of the match.

The archery matches are extremely close as well, although Team Griffon does come away with the victories they are hard fought by all involved.

Then come the two events that seem to be the most popular, although both somewhat annoy you. In the Men’s Naked Volleyball competition, Team Griffon completely dominates, with both the Roman and Rasalhaguian men looking, you have to say it, pale and weak in comparison. You are quite sure that anybody interested in the male anatomy is truly enjoying themselves. The Women’s competition is a bit of a surprise though. The Team Rasalhague women are incredible, utterly dominating the competition both in appearance and skill. Team Griffon isn’t bad, in either category, but even you can’t help but feel a twinge. Damn it. Thou shalt not covet….

The Men’s soccer matches are… interesting. Early on the entire NRI team gets disqualified after they got into a massive fight with the refs and each other, evidently the players were from clubs that hated each other and somebody said something that exploded into a two hour donnybrook that so thoroughly disrupted the tournament that officials simply DQed the entire team. The Griffon men won the ensuing single match that was played 3 to 2. The Women’s match had far less in the way of fighting, and quite honestly put you to sleep. The Rasalhaguians finally won on penalty kicks after the most boring two hours of your life that you’ll never get back.

The two best pitchers for the NRI in the Baseball tournament are expelled after beaning multiple batters, the NRI manager is also ejected, and when the local fans go somewhat berserk the entire NRI team is made to forfeit the tournament. As a result Team Griffon wins by virtue of having defeated the Rasalhaguians in their game earlier in the day. In Softball the Romans redeem themselves with a very high scoring game that went fifteen overtimes before they walked off in a 24 to 23 win over Team Griffon.

And then it was BUDGET TIME! Say it together! BUDGET TIME!

You hate budget time. It’s long, boring meetings. But it gets your mind off of your wife, so that’s good.

General Stewart is up first. “Your Majesty, we are in decent shape in terms of strategic materials production, but more is always better than less. We especially need to continue to expand our mech and ASF production capacity along with dropship and warship production. On that note, we have transferred most of the Cadre units to front line status, apart from those using training mechs. This has allowed us to nearly fully recover our losses, but we’ll be wanting to rebuild the Cadre units over time.”

General Jenkins is up next, glances at you, and out comes the sly grin. He’s BACK. “OK, boss, here’s the deal. The training academies are howling and moaning and peeing their panties, but we took away their conventional assets and turned ‘em into front line units for the moment. Then they started crying some more, and shockingly they actually had a point, so we’ve put together some proposals for dedicated training units for them. They’re still crying about losing so many armored cavalry units, but they were mostly being used as a different set of garrison forces for those worlds with Academies on them. Going forward, the Academies will have purely training assets. Now, boss, I know how much you love powerpoints…” he grins wickedly and you try, and fail, to glare him into submission. “So, as I am an evil and terrible person, I’m not using any. Please try and contain your disappointment.” An unwitting ripple of laughter fills the conference room at that. “Using tools that even us Mechwarriors can understand…” he pulls out a set of honest-to-god crayons and a large flip board of paper. You can’t help it. You start laughing.
  • Heavy/Assault Mechs (6 factories)
    • 6 Standard Mech Regiments
      • Assigned to the 10th, 11th, and 12th Assault Regiments as well as the 10th, 11th, and 12th RCT
  • Medium Mechs (11 factories)
    • 8 Light Horse Regiments
      • Assigned to the 8th, 9th, 19th, and 20th Cavalry Regiments
    • 3 Light Training Regiments
      • Replacement training brigade
  • LAM (2 factories)
    • Assigned to the 7th and 8th Rapid Reaction Brigade
  • Conventional Vehicles (19 regiments worth)
    • 4 Rapid Response Regiments
      • Assigned to the 7th and 8th Rapid Reaction Brigade
    • 3 Armored Regiments
      • Assigned to the 10th, 11th, and 12th RCT
    • 10 Mechanized Regiments
      • Assigned to the 34th, 35th, 36th, 37th and 38th Infantry Brigades
    • 2 Mechanized Training Regiments
      • Replacement training assets

General Romanov is up next. “How do I follow that, Your Majesty.” She says that with a smile, easing any sting. “We have a number of Oasis II and Silver Towers coming online this year, plus however many White Towers we decide to build. In addition we need to provide an aerial garrison for Okusawa. The baseline is 12 wings total of birds that we’ll need as a minimal baseline. Each White Tower that we build will require one more.” Unlike General Jenkins she does have a slide showing the procurement request.
  • 8 Fighter Wings
  • 2 Planetary Defense Wings
  • +1 Fighter Wing for each White Towerbuilt, there are 20 free assembly lines
    • For the purposes of PPG-001 estimates, we are assuming 4 White Towers will be built, 2 for Okusawa and 2 for New Castor.

Thanh is back for the Navy, still on crutches but mobile enough for this. “Your Majesty, our review boards are finalizing their work for future considerations, but they aren’t quite done yet. Early indications are that, at least until we can build more optimized light cruisers, large numbers of destroyers will be the most effective answer to the Black Steel. Unless we are willing to sustain atrocious casualties among the [i[Dagger[/i]s, the old mix of Dart and Dagger is untenable. If we did want to go the jeune ecole route, then we’d need at least 20 Daggers per Dart leader. And we couldn’t spread them out, they’d need to stay concentrated, which would increase the required numbers exponentially.”

She pauses, frowning. “For now, we would like to avoid that, so we are recommending laying down 18 Fletcher class alongside 2 more Wolverine class training vessels. For the rest…” she gestures to the display, which switches to showing a chart for naval procurement. “We need more transport capacity, the quartermaster’s corp is tearing their collective hair out and we, quite honestly, ran the entire operation far too close to the edge in regards to our logistics. So we are focusing on that for standard dropships, while building a large tranche of Majestics to anchor system defense flotillas.”
  • Standard Dropships (64 slips)
    • 64 Trenton-class
  • Large Dropships (38 slips)
    • 38 Majestic-class
  • Jumpships
    • 6 Brig-class
  • Warships
    • 18 Fletcher-class
    • 2 Wolverine-class
  • PPG-001
    • Estimated to be able to build 228 of them, limited by Ferro-Aluminium production

General Stewart comes back up “Your Majesty, in addition we are in a position to impose an occupational authority on Okusawa. As the previous rulers are all dead and there is no functional civilian government left in the system, we’d need to make it, at least for now, a military government until a new civilian one can be formed.”

Bridget is looking somewhat closer to normal, but is still a pale reminder of what everybody has lost. She’s started talking about retiring in a few years to spend time with her remaining family, but hasn’t made a decision yet in that regard.

“Your Majesty, we are ready to build anything required of us, however we do recommend getting started on fixing the horrific mess that the Dracs left of Okusawa’s environment. The place is a poisonous hell hole at the moment and the infrastructure is shattered. For now, with all of our DoME teams committed, we can’t do anything truly useful about the root problems, but we can at least get started on the problems. We do have one piece of bad news, however.” She grimaces, then meets your eyes. “We won’t be able to expand our capital shipyards this year, Your Majesty. The suppliers for many of the structural elements needed for them are currently overwhelmed with civilian sector orders now that the civilian dropship yards are back in business. On the plus side this is resulting in some nice revenues, on the minus side the materials for the new yards are simply not available. This will also affect expanding the orbital yards and refit facilities. We can set up some commercial stations in New Eden and Okusawa, if you want.”

Isoroku is off at the Olympics with Bastet, leaving his deputy to handle things in his absence. “Your Majesty, the Foreign Ministry has nothing specific for you this year, what with the Olympics.”

Lien is up next, looking far more comfortable by now in the big seat for your political advisor. “Your Majesty, we stand ready to support the establishment of a system government in New Castor if desired. We also are ready to start work on developing a framework for the future civil government on Okusawa, although that will be challenging given the situation on the planet.”

Dr Bryant is up next. “Your Majesty, I have a single R&D team available. We also are starting to see issues with food production being outpaced by population growth, especially in the Griffon system. As such, we strongly recommend investigating improving our agricultural techniques for now, and in the future as New Eden develops it should be possible to begin shipping basic staple foods from there throughout the Empire, reducing the local burden.”

General Messerschmidt is still looking distinctly grumpy. “Your Majesty, I accept full responsibility for the failures that allowed anything, even some spare parts, to fall into the hands of our allies. Beyond that we really have nothing to report, ongoing operations in the Nya Kopenhamn system are proceeding as expected, we’ve had no real issues with COINTEL, and none of our agents are reporting anything troubling beyond one minor thing out of the NRI.”

Minor… you feel a shiver of fear.

“It seems, Your Majesty, that the cult devoted to you as the living avatar of Jupiter Invictus and, of course, of Thanh as Minerva Volatalis, has reached sufficient size that they have successfully petitioned to have a parade and consecration in your honor made part of the closing ceremonies of the Olympics this year. I understand that it is expected to be quite spectacular.”

He’s smirking at you. Everybody but Thanh is smirking at you. And she’s just grinning like a lunatic at you.

You barely hear Martina speaking through the pounding in your ears as she explains about the Justice Ministry starting work on implementing the Griffon legal code and system on Okusawa being something her people are ready to do. Now about implementing a legal system on New Castor. You are too busy staring into space in horror at terrible visions of just how over the top this ‘parade and consecration’ is going to be, and just how people here will react to it.
 

Tel Janin Aman

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The tacit ‘finders keepers’ combined with ‘we stole it fair and square’. Lovely.
This is really upsetting to me, we bend over backwards for these people, have propped up and saved both of their governments: one from genocidal religious extremists and the other from what seemed to be corrupt brownshirts looking to take control and they pull this bullshit and try to play it off as hanky panky "you can't prove we did it even though there are literally no other suspects". I feel it's time for the velvet to come off the iron fist next time these smooth brains inevitably face a crisis.
 

Val the Moofia Boss

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It's indeed rather annoying but I'm not sure if we should make a fuss about it. The NRR and the NRI are our only "friends". They're the only people we can trade with and ask for help from. The Freefolk either got nabbed or have moved out of our region of the galaxy. Literally the only other advanced nation within arms reach is... Killburough, who we don't trade with and I believe we are considering taking them out like 50 or 100 years from now. We just got hit by a handful of cyborgs and there are more where they came from. And who knows what else is lurking out there. In that light, I'm not sure if possibly damaging our relationship with the NRR and the NRI is wise. And really, even if they do research our tech, it doesn't matter that much in the long run. Our industry is far, far larger than theirs and seems to be progressing at a far, far faster rate. The NRR and the NRI will be irrelevant compared to our might in a few decades, but not right now.
 

Kilvanya

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We should Terran hegemony them -> Fuck off with your tech thievery or we crater every RnD Lab you have until you run out or we start hitting education centers.
Fuck this sort of *wink wink nudge nudge* type bullshit, its asinine and we never get to punish people for this shit in any quest it has ever come up in.
 

Val the Moofia Boss

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We should Terran hegemony them -> Fuck off with your tech thievery or we crater every RnD Lab you have until you run out or we start hitting education centers.

If we do that, then we get into a protracted war with not one, but two of our next door neighbors - who will likely unite against us. AND we are at war with the Amaris Remnants, so we'd be fighting three hostile powers at once! And that's assuming Killburough isn't playing dumb and doesn't decide to join in on the fun and take us out while they have the chance. It'd take decades for that to resolve, and while that's happening any passing ships are going to notice and spread bad word of mouth about us, which makes things worse for us in the long run.
 

Tel Janin Aman

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If we do that, then we get into a protracted war with not one, but two of our next door neighbors - who will likely unite against us. AND we are at war with the Amaris Remnants, so we'd be fighting three hostile powers at once! And that's assuming Killburough isn't playing dumb and doesn't decide to join in on the fun and take us out while they have the chance. It'd take decades for that to resolve, and while that's happening any passing ships are going to notice and spread bad word of mouth about us, which makes things worse for us in the long run.
Not really, how are we supposed to know who blew up their labs researching tech they stole from us? There's no evidence on who did it. But they can rest assured that we are looking into it!
 

Kilvanya

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Make a desert and call it peace, fuck being railroaded into letting people steal our shit in every empire quest ever run and punished for even daring to try and protest it.
If they show back up having reverse engineered the tech in a turn or two while we spent hundreds of millions on tech research I'll have been proven right, it's always used as an easy way to rip the players technological edge away and even the playing field without recourse.
 

Rukatin

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Orrrr.... We we could swing the other way, instead of being mad, we could go like 'hey, we know you took tech samples. How about instead of cloak and dagger bullshit, we help your R&D for formal military alliance?'
 

Kilvanya

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Because they are untrustworthy, why should we help them yet more again? They have nothing to offer we can’t get cheaper elsewhere without feeding their entitled little egos that they’re important.
 

LordSunhawk

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I do hope you all realize that your intelligence people are spying on the NRR and NRI as well, yes? That you have them both infiltrated? Yes, you are allies. Yes, you are friends. They've bled right alongside you, they've provided significant assistance right alongside you, and you both are still going to spy on each other.

Your battle armor and clan grade gauss weapons (and clan grade AMS)? Thank the NRI. The NRR? For twenty years they were effectively the only ones directly fighting the Dracs while you built up, overall they've taken heavier casualties from the Dracs than you have. They bled themselves *white* against the Dracs, until you had the time to gear up and strike the killing blow.
 

Rukatin

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See? It's okay for our allies to reap the rewards of a mutually beneficial arrangement. (Plus they can be buffers between the big scary monsters out there~)
 

Tel Janin Aman

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Difference is we bought those from the NRI and the NRR would have fought the dracs without us, in fact I imagine Griffin existence was probably one of the reasons they felt secure in rebellion as we drew a lot of the dracs attention. I understand allies spy on each other but this isn't monitoring political trends or how their economy is looking, this is blatant theft and their reaction when we confronted them is essentially "what are you going to do about it". That is why I'm upset.
 

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