Quest Deep Periphery Quest (Battletech Sandbox Empire Builder)

Knowledgeispower

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[X] Oppose
[X] Go For It
[X] Approve

Although I will note that we do need to start knocking down the influence of parliament or boosting our own
 

IceWing_mk1

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@LordSunhawk - I have a question about the unemployment \ social safety net.

Is there an exception or provision in there for a way to help those who cannot work jobs which are more physical \mental in nature if they are, in demonstrable fact, unable to meet the performance requirements?

i.e. are we expecting 60 year old women to take ditch digging jobs, or expect the mentally handicapped to be expected to perform work which MAY in fact be beyond their capabilities?

Also, do we have psychological testing baked into the requirements for politicians and public servants?
 

LordSunhawk

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The social safety net certainly has full provisions for disability, age, etc. The physically disabled are provided with full assistance, including any medical equipment that they would need to be fully functional, as part of the social services system (you decided to do that many many turns ago), the mentally disabled are given tenured faculty positions within the Department of Periphery Studies and likewise are fully taken care of and treated with all possible dignity, even when their mental illness causes them to do weird shit.

So if, for example, you lost a leg to an industrial accident, the social services system would provide a fully functional, if not necessarily life-like, prosthetic leg that provides identical mobility to a healthy individual (which is well within Battletech tech capabilities), corporate medical plans might provide higher grade prosthetics or even cloned replacements.

When it comes to physical capabilities due to age and such, the current system doesn't require you to accept 'any' job, only jobs for which you are fully qualified and capable. Which currently generally means jobs that are equivalent to the one you lost. The changes here would change that to 'any' job that you are fully qualified for, even if it were at a far lower level.
 

Jarow

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Although I will note that we do need to start knocking down the influence of parliament or boosting our own
From earlier in the quest, higher for us is "dictator" levels of control, so that's staying where it is. 6 isn't too bad a place, so not messing with Chamber, but with what we definitely seem to be voting for, knocking senate down a little is definitely part of my less-official-than-usual early planning.
 
Turn 60 - A Sacrifice Is Offered

LordSunhawk

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Turn 60 - A Sacrifice Is Offered

You receive reports from the civil war torn NRI. The ‘leader’ of the Pugnus Deorum has declared himself to be Rex Deorum and taken the name Divus Augustus, or ‘the Divine Augustus’. He has ordered that temples to his worship be built ‘per Imperium’, or throughout his Empire, and that all who fail to offer sacrifices and tithes to his name are to be crucified.

The last sputtering remnants of the Pugnus Deorum on Tarentum have been annihilated. The planetary Proconsuls have been acclaimed as the rightful Consuls of the NRI by the loyalist Legions. Fighting continues on Ravenna, with your forces engaged in orbital strikes on rebel forces in support of loyalist units. You have full control over the Zenith jump points of both Nova Roma and Ravenna, and complete control of Tarentum. Rebel forces have sufficient dropships clustered at the Nadir of both Nova Roma and Ravenna that your forward commanders have declined to contest the Nadir points, while preserving orbital superiority over both Nova Roma and Ravenna.

The military proposes Operation Dragonbreath, a massive strike on Ravenna to relieve the loyalist forces, thus isolating the Pugnus Deorum to Nova Roma itself. 2nd Armored Division and 2nd Infantry Division would be earmarked for the strike, with support from veteral loyalist legions from Tarentum.
[]Approve Operation Dragonbreath
[]Deny Operation Dragonbreath

Back home, the Imperial Grifftiger Mounted Police have broken up a major crime ring on Nowy Gdansk that had been engaged in smuggling, money laundering, unlicensed prostitution, protection rackets, and the like. About 30 people have been arrested on a variety of charges and the cases are moving through the justice system.

What makes this a bit unusual is that there was a bit of a multi-agency pile up in the middle of the actual bust, with undercover agents from the IGMP and the Special Branch nearly coming to blows before following the identification procedures and defusing the potential blue on blue scenario. Both forces had been fully briefed on the presence of undercover operatives from the other, with proper identification procedures in place, but in the chaos of the actual bust there was almost an incident in a dark warehouse. A quasi-legal rave had been going on in a lightly partitioned off section of the building, and the incredibly loud music had caused the Special Branch operative to be unable to make out the challenge from the IGMP agent, but fortunately both agencies had planned ahead and included a visual challenge/response sequence as well which prevented tragedy.

You wind up giving both agencies a nice pat on the back for this one.

And then it was budget time, your most favoritest time of year, hurray!

General Stewart starts things off, although Jeremy is there as well for Ground Forces.

“Your Majesty, we continue to need more production capacity, especially for our ground forces. Our responsibilities have significantly broadened and we need to provide proper garrisons to three new planets yesterday, if not sooner. We strongly recommend building additional mech factories anywhere we can fit them, as well as additional endo-steel, double heat sink, and ferro-fibrous production. In addition, we now are able to produce Ferro-Carbide armor, which is currently only useful on HMS Morristown and the new recharge station design.”

Jeremy then takes the podium, grinning slightly. “Your Majesty, I’m going to keep this simple. Wants Mechs, tanks, and infantry, gives it to us?” a laugh echoes around the conference room as he brings up a display. “First, desired mech procurement.”
Standard Mech Regiment24th Brigade, 2nd Armored
Armored Cavalry Regiment14th Brigade, 2nd Armored
Light Horse Regiment35th Brigade, 1st Infantry
Assault Regiment25th Brigade, 3rd Armored

“And for vehicles…” he brings up the next display.
Armored Regiment13rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry
Mechanized Regiment31st Brigade 3rd Armored and 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry
SpecOps Regiment11st Brigade, 3rd Armored
CAS Regiment84th Brigade, 2nd Infantry, 2nd and 3rd Colonial Division
Colonial Infantry Regiment122nd and 3rd Colonial Division
Colonial Cavalry Regiment62nd and 3rd Colonial Division
Colonial Mechanized Regiment62nd and 3rd Colonial Division

“If we must cut costs, Your Majesty, I recommend cutting the Armored, Mechanized, SpecOps and 1 of the CAS regiments, 3rd Armored and 2nd Infantry can wait, but we need basic garrison forces for Calliope IV and the TTP as soon as possible, and Colonial Divisions are the least resource intensive means for us to do just that.”

General Reyes then steps up, and activates her Powerpoint like a Pro, which is appropriate, since it’s Powerpoint Pro 2990, which Powerpoint Pros use, and General Reyes is certainly a Powerpoint Pro.

“Your Majesty, thankfully none of the ship’s commissioning this year require air wings, however we do need to build ASF forces on our new possessions, especially the TTP. To that end, we recommend the procurement of a pair of Planetary Garrison Wings for the TTP.”

She said very little… in five slides of Powerpoint. Truly a Powerpoint Pro of legend!

You manage to wake yourself up in time for Admiral Benjamin to slide behind the lectern like a boss, his poor aides trailing him, this time dressed up in the most over the top Dress Mess uniform you’ve ever seen, that looks like something you’d expect to see in parodies of ancient Earth tin-pot dictatorships.

“Your Majesty, great news!” He begins, his usual highly energetic self, as one aide takes out a tiny trumpet and plays a tootling fanfare that has Bastet and Sekhmet pinning their ears back. “We have a bunch of building slips available, and want to build things that will let General Reyes include more pages in her next presentation!”
Regular Dropships (22)
Bataan AKIL12
Harper’s Ferry AKVL1
Victory AKM9
Large Dropships (18)
Majestic6
Newport3
Newport-C3
Shannon4
Independence2

“For regular dropships we are going to be focusing for a few years on transports and logistics platforms, as our light dropship units are in fairly solid shape. For our large dropships we are balancing expanding our combat power and boosting our transport capabilities.” he explains, then departs the podium to another fanfare from his aide.

General Stewart takes the podium once more “Your Majesty, right now we are having to focus on filling out units and continuing to expand our striking and defensive capabilities. Now is not the time to take the foot off of the gas when it comes to strategic material production expansion, additional factory development, and force production.”

And then it’s the Perky One Herself! Bridget is practically vibrating in her chair. “Your Majesty! We can finally build HPG stations! And we really should build them, because they are very critical to boosting our overall economy. The more planets we link into our communication grid, and the more robust said grid is, the greater the economic benefit. This doesn’t even begin to go into the benefits to military coordination, early warning, diplomatic communication, and everything else having a reliable FTL communications network gives us. We also now have the ability to focus development on Nowa Warszawa, Calliope IV, and the TTP, which will allow us to develop those planets and systems more rapidly.”

She sits back down, still vibrating.

Isoroku is up next, his zen calm a welcome relief from the high energy Interior Minister. “Your Majesty, this year we are holding the Pan Griffon Games, which are going rather well even if they are rather sparsely attended than in years past. Hopefully this will boost the performance of our teams in the next full Olympiad! Next time around, athletes from Nowa Warszawa, Calliope IV, and the TTP will be invited to attend, broadening our competitive pool. In addition, the New Rasalhague Republic has invited us to expand our diplomatic presence in their polity by opening satellite consulates on all of their worlds. We recommend that we take advantage of this opportunity.”

Jake then takes the podium as Isoroku sits down. “Well, Your Majesty, we’ve got a lot of work in the Politics end, which will yield some impressive results down the road. First of all, we need to properly integrate the TTP and Calliope IV. While the TTP will remain internally autonomous, we do need to build an administrative structure for Imperial oversight and assistance. In addition, we need to extend our education system into our new possessions, thus boosting our pool of well-educated citizens and opening up opportunities for additional R&D centers throughout the Empire.”

Mary nods to Jake as he takes his seat and she brings up her custom presentation software. “Your Majesty, as Jake said, once we bring the various educational systems up to par with our own, we’ll be able to open new R&D centers, boosting our research capability significantly. In addition, we are tentatively ready to begin researching the design and construction of proper ‘Castle Brian’ fortifications. Our recommendations for research are as follows.
  • Military Research
    • Improved XL Fusion Engine
      • More compact fusion engines will reduce the vulnerability of our mechs to side torso penetration
    • Improved SRM
      • While we make little use overall of the SRM, this is a relatively inexpensive project that may be of value for future battle armor designs
    • Improved Large Pulse Laser
      • Would benefit several of our AAA vehicles as well as Dropship point defenses
  • Non Military Research
    • Improved Automation 6
      • The economic boost alone makes this extremely valuable
    • Integrated CASE
      • Is primarily useful for Mechs, especially in conjunction with the more compact fusion cores
    • Land-Air Mech
      • These would theoretically make excellent recon and special forces assets
    • MASC
      • Would make our light mechs situationally faster

Harry is actually off world, overseeing the new POW camps on Nowa Warszawa. His assistant however has a number of recommendations from Intelligence. “Your Majesty, with our new acquisitions it is vital that we expand our COINTEL capabilities to Calliope IV and the TTP. This will help prevent any remaining enemy assets from causing us trouble in the future.”

Janet, finally, is looking tired, harassed, and like she’s having the time of her life. “Your Majesty, we’re growing fast, and with that our legal system needs to expand and prepare. We need to expand directly on Calliope IV, while we really need to begin a full review of the TTP’s law codes in order to ensure compliance with the treaty. Siriwan has been very amenable to our requests for information, but is hardly a lawyer as she has absolutely no ‘legal’ background. Although…” your best friend smirks at you “I do believe your granddaughter is taking pre-law classes, which may soon fill that gap.”
 

ShadowArxxy

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When it comes to physical capabilities due to age and such, the current system doesn't require you to accept 'any' job, only jobs for which you are fully qualified and capable. Which currently generally means jobs that are equivalent to the one you lost. The changes here would change that to 'any' job that you are fully qualified for, even if it were at a far lower level.

This is the main reason I'm opposed to this "reform". I think it's ridiculous to say someone who has put in the work to earn higher education should be forced to take a position far below their qualifications on pain of losing their unemployment support, so long as they can show they are making good faith efforts to actually get a job. That would push us towards the abusive ridiculousness of 'work placements' in the UK's system.
 

kelgar04

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It gets you on the Job Ladder ShadowArxxy and gets you paid as well as giving you insights into the relevant fields its also miles better than being on the bloody dole waiting for a hand out. Even if you have a degree in higher education as well you take what you can get for your first job after your degree it’s not going to be glamorous or in your field of study most of the time but you got take what you can get.

Also you literally just described job seekers allowance in the UK as well In the first half.
 

LordSunhawk

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I think I've failed to make the system clear enough.

If you are just entering the job market and are on benefits, your benefits are the equivalent of you working full time at the lowest paid entry level job that you would otherwise qualify for. Since labor laws are designed such that even such entry level jobs are sufficient to support a citizen, this means that minimum benefits will allow you to rent a small apartment and put food on the table for yourself, but you aren't getting any luxuries.

Once you've been in the job market and risen up to, say, the middle class, and are earning sufficient money at your work to support a family etc, and lose your job to a recession? Well, your benefits will be equal to the salary+benefits of your previous position for 1 year, dropping slowly afterwards to the minimum level calculated to support a family of your size.

This is intended to allow you the buffer to find an equivalent position to your previous one without needing to worry about feeding your family, while still incentivizing *actually finding a position*.

What had been proposed was to accelerate the depreciation schedule from 'full salary+benefits' to 'minimum support level'.
 

Jarow

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[X] Plan: Consolidation, now with LAMs!
-[X] Military [$ 57,969,527.67 ]
--[X] Build factories for Battlemech Nowa Warzsawa [125]
--[X] Build factories for Battlemech Nowa Warzsawa [125]
--[X] Build factories for Battlemech Nowa Warzsawa [125]
(More mechs do need to be built)
--[X] Upgrade All DHS Foundries [70]
(We're close to the point an extra mech regiment would strain this resource this turn)
--[X] Upgrade All Endosteel Foundries [70]
(We don't have enough for a single extra regiment)
--[X] Build Orbital Factory Ferro-Carbide [110]
(We might need some to repair our warship, and will need some to build recharge stations)
--[X] Lay down Jumpship [Jumpship Construction - 42468.84 ] (65)
---[X] Caravel* [65]
---[X] Caravel* [65]
--[X] Lay Down Major Unit [Construction - ] (85)
---[X] Bataan AKIL [85]
---[X] Bataan AKIL [85]
---[X] Bataan AKIL [85]
---[X] Bataan AKIL [85]
---[X] Bataan AKIL [85]
---[X] Bataan AKIL [85]
---[X] Bataan AKIL [85]
---[X] Bataan AKIL [85]
---[X] Bataan AKIL [85]
---[X] Bataan AKIL [85]
---[X] Bataan AKIL [85]
---[X] Bataan AKIL [85]
---[X] Harper's Ferry AKVL [85]
---[X] Victory AKM [85]
---[X] Victory AKM [85]
---[X] Victory AKM [85]
---[X] Victory AKM [85]
---[X] Victory AKM [85]
---[X] Victory AKM [85]
---[X] Victory AKM [85]
---[X] Victory AKM [85]
---[X] Victory AKM [85]
---[X] Majestic [85]
---[X] Majestic [85]
---[X] Majestic [85]
---[X] Majestic [85]
---[X] Majestic [85]
---[X] Majestic [85]
---[X] Newport [85]
---[X] Newport [85]
---[X] Newport [85]
---[X] Newport-C [85]
---[X] Newport-C [85]
---[X] Newport-C [85]
---[X] Shannon [85]
---[X] Shannon [85]
---[X] Shannon [85]
---[X] Shannon [85]
---[X] Independence [85]
---[X] Independence [85]

--[X] Purchase New Units [$ 2,092,152.11 ]
---[X] 2 Planetary Defense Wing [75]

---[X] 3 Light Horse Regiment [75]
---[X] 2 Assault Regiment [75]
---[X] 2 Standard Mech Regiment [75]
---[X] 1 Armored Cavalry Regiment [75]

---[X] 1 Armored Regiment [75]
---[X] 3 Mechanized Regiment [75]
---[X] 1 SpecOps Regiment [75]
---[X] 8 CAS Regiment [75]
---[X] 6 Colonial Mechanized Regiment [75]
---[X] 6 Colonial Cavalry Regiment [75]
---[X] 12 Colonial Infantry Regiment [75]

-[X] Interior [$ 179,876,250.00 ]
--[X] Replace Nowa Warszawa's Power Grid with modern Fusion* [->8]
--[X] Bring Nowa Warszawa Up To Griffon Eco Standards* [->8]
--[X] Focus Development on Nowa Warszawa [65]
(Full benefits instead of the reduced version core worlds get, and it is the largest non-core)
--[X] Build HPG Station Nowa Warzsawa [->1]
--[X] Build HPG Station Griffon's Roost [->1]
--[X] Build HPG Station Calliope IV [->1]
--[X] Build HPG Station Kuroisora [->1]
(Gets most of our systems, Sukaishi can get one next turn. Nowy Gdansk can probably use one too, but focusing on systems first to shorten the communication link)
--[X] Upgrade All Ferro Fibrous Foundries* [auto]
--[X] Expand Refit and Repair Yard [100]
--[X] Expand All Shipyards [100]
--[X] DOME - Plant Tropical Forests* [->1]
--[X] DOME - Underwater City* [->2]
--[X] DOME - Planetary Sculpting - Artificial Riverbeds - Griffin IV* [->7]
--[X] DOME - Planetary Sculpting - Artificial Oceans - Griffin IV* [->7]
--[X] DOME - Planetary Sculpting - Artificial Lakes - Griffin IV* [->7]
--[X] DOME - Pollution Scrubbing Towers (Nowa Warszawa)* [->3]
--[X] DOME - Water Pollution Filtering (Nowa Warszawa)* [->3]
--[X] DOME - Industrial Pollution Cleanup (Nowa Warszawa)* [->3]

-[X] Diplomatic [$ 10,000,000 ]
--[X] Enhance Diplomatic Presence in NRR [75]
(Event protection and more trade)
--[X] CULTURE - Local Olympics [Exist]

-[X] Political [$ 40,000,000 ]
--[X] Extend Government Offices to Calliope IV [75]
--[X] Extend Government Offices to TTP [75]
(We need to integrate our new planets quickly. Hopefully, senate holds off a turn before getting too big for themselves)
--[X] Improve Educational System on Nowa Warszawa [->1]
(About a third of our population lives here, they need to not fall completely behind in education.)

-[X] Research [$ 120,050,000 ]
--[X] Improved Automation lvl 6 [95]
(Will at least partially counteract the effects of base tax reduction)
--[X] Improved Germanium Refining lvl 1* [->2]
--[X] Integrated CASE [45]
(Makes ballistics/missiles cheaper to use. A bit mroe expensive than Id prefer, but running out of cheap stuff)
--[X] MASC [85]
(Mostly for cost savings, but could be useful in some designs)
--[X] Improved SRM [->1]
(Likely progress towards getting proper clantech missiles, and likely nice for PA)
--[X] Land-Air Mech [->3]
(Hooray, finally have a lack of pressing concerns and can get this! Fun and cheap!)
--[X] Improved Large Pulse Laser [->2]
(Relatively cheap, progress in clantech energy weapons research)
--[X] Improved XL Fusion Engine [->4]
(Gets more crits and no/lesser BV debuff for XL engines)


-[X] Intelligence [$ 20,000,000 ]
--[X] Counterintelligence Surveillance [?]
--[X] Expand COINTEL to Calliope IV [75]
--[X] Expand COINTEL to TTP [75]
(No reason to let people spy on our new worlds)

-[X] Justice [$ 15,000,000 ]
--[X] Integrate Calliope IV into Imperial Legal System [->1]
--[X] Review TTP laws [->1]
(Legal integration is pretty important too)

-[X] Miscellaneous [$ 100,000 ]
--[X] Local Olympics

50m leftover, most resources but endosteel in reasonably decent shape. A little nervous leaving senate at 7, but should be okay to let them have a turn there to make sure we get our new planets functional first.

And almost forgot:
[X] Approve Operation Dragonbreath

Don't want to leave the rebellion sitting there for too long.
 
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Thors_Alumni

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[X] Approve Operation Dragonbreath
[X] Plan: Consolidation, now with LAMs!


Is it just me or are our plans starting to get a bit too complicated?
 

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