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China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Vaermina

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Most people Who? In the US, MAYBE.

@Rocinante put It Better.

530 Dollars even in Europe Is a lot. In Italy, It's either 40% / 45% of your paycheck , in some places It's even your full month paycheck!

In Portugal / Spain It's a full month or a month and half of pay in 9 out of 10 places.

Not to mention as Rocinante said, I am paying twice if they put this scheme also in Europe.

Do you have that type of Money to throw away together with your health?

You sound like BreadTube or the European "left". Plain paid opposition.

Or you maybe Just trust big gov and big pharma.

I don't.

It's a bunch of Money grabbers who Just cant wait to fuck you, me and others like prostitutes.

I have nothing but contempt for people Who make excuses for the vermin that rules us.
And it sucks that their governments aren't bothering to actually purchase the new medicine or researching and producing their own.

But that's not the US's problem...
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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"I chose this little girl over Trump."

Alex Jones is done with Trump, and for good reason.

Trump owns every adverse reaction, every needless Wu Flu vax-caused death, and he will never own up to his part in this shit.

Trump, like Fauci, Pence, and all the others who continue to push these unnecessary shots and ignore adverse reactions own all the damage and death they are adding to.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
Trump owns every adverse reaction, every needless Wu Flu vax-caused death, and he will never own up to his part in this shit.

Trump, like Fauci, Pence, and all the others who continue to push these unnecessary shots and ignore adverse reactions own all the damage and death they are adding to.

We've been over this before.

Trump does not support mandates. He may try to convince you to take a vaccine, but he will not try to force you.

No, he does not 'own' every adverse reaction, etc, etc. Because he did not use coercive means when he was in power, people got to accept or reject based on informed consent. What the Democrats have done since then is on them, not him.


...He does have some culpability for not canning Fauci though.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
We've been over this before.

Trump does not support mandates. He may try to convince you to take a vaccine, but he will not try to force you.

No, he does not 'own' every adverse reaction, etc, etc. Because he did not use coercive means when he was in power, people got to accept or reject based on informed consent. What the Democrats have done since then is on them, not him.


...He does have some culpability for not canning Fauci though.
Trump owns this for not even admitting adverse reactions are even happening, for ignoring why vax's take years to get to market in order to rush these to the public, for allowing vax makers to be shielded from liability for adverse reactions in order to get the vax's to market, and for not firing Fauci 'because the Left would have gone into an uproar'.

Trump also owns allowing hospitals to be given 'bonuses' for Wu Flu diagnoses and specific treatments that do more harm than good (the forced intubation and remdesiver treatments that are killing people and hospitals get paid more to use that treatment protocol in spite of this).

Also, a 3 year old can hardly give 'informed consent'.

Biden and co own the mandates and economic damage they are causing, no doubt about that.

However, Trump owns 'his' vax's, and not trying to force them on people means jack shit when he also ignores the downsides his vax's are causing due to ego and pride.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
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Yeah, but so does everyone above him since the AIDS crisis. The instant that hit to his credibility was remembered the whole thing should have stopped.
I'm honestly surprised someone hasn't just killed Fauci by now.

I'm talking about everything from an execution done by professional hitmen to just the Average Joe or Jane going up to him in the street and shoving a knife in his kidney, for various reasons (money, grief, deserved blame from relatives of his victims, et cetera).

This man is both indirectly and directly responsible for so much misery and death from two massive viral outbreaks over decades, it's nightmarish.

No, I'm not demanding his death (so the staff can rest easy there), though the cunt either certainly deserves to be put on trial for his actions or deserves to be killed: I'm just surprised someone hasn't done it already.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
Founder
Trump got played. They used his ego against him.

Simple as.
Yep.

Had Trump come out and cautioned against the Wu Flu vax's when large numbers of adverse reactions started showing up, he could have salvaged his image and rep.

Too many still are unwilling to call Trump out for this, because they still view him as our only hope for 2024, or do not want to give the Left's narrative even a slight foot in the door, even if it means ignoring facts that we've documented in this thread for months.
 

Terthna

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Yep.

Had Trump come out and cautioned against the Wu Flu vax's when large numbers of adverse reactions started showing up, he could have salvaged his image and rep.

Too many still are unwilling to call Trump out for this, because they still view him as our only hope for 2024, or do not want to give the Left's narrative even a slight foot in the door, even if it means ignoring facts that we've documented in this thread for months.
The sad thing is he may still actually be our only hope, even taking this new wrinkle into account; DeSantis might prove to be a viable or even better alternative, but he also might decide to align himself with the Republician establishment (who themselves have proven unwilling to challenge the Democrats in any meaningful way) the moment he gets inaugurated in as president. He wouldn't be the first to have done so.
 

Rocinante

Russian Bot
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The sad thing is he may still actually be our only hope, even taking this new wrinkle into account; DeSantis might prove to be a viable or even better alternative, but he also might decide to align himself with the Republician establishment (who themselves have proven unwilling to challenge the Democrats in any meaningful way) the moment he gets inaugurated in as president. He wouldn't be the first to have done so.
I'll still vote Trump but as of now I kinda just want him to shut up and go away.

Desantis seems promising so far
 

Sobek

Disgusting Scalie
The sad thing is he may still actually be our only hope, even taking this new wrinkle into account; DeSantis might prove to be a viable or even better alternative, but he also might decide to align himself with the Republician establishment (who themselves have proven unwilling to challenge the Democrats in any meaningful way) the moment he gets inaugurated in as president. He wouldn't be the first to have done so.

I mean, that is also true. Trump with a low confidence is still leagues better than 95% of the realistic "has a chance to win" candidates. For all his faults he still won't mandate the vaccine or force it on people. DeSantis has a good point but unless Trump doesn't run that could split the vote. He could stand to pick him as a VP, or Gosar or even MTG for VP. That would help control him and improve the outcome. There is no point in getting a RINO VP anymore, and Pence has been excommunicated from pretty much the entire R rooster of voters other than out of touch evangelicals and RINOs pretending to care aboht decency.
 

Terthna

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I'll still vote Trump but as of now I kinda just want him to shut up and go away.

Desantis seems promising so far
So far. But I've been burned before, and the man is still a career politician; meaning he's likely quite adept at lying, and making himself appear to be someone he's not.
 

TheRejectionist

TheRejectionist
So far. But I've been burned before, and the man is still a career politician; meaning he's likely quite adept at lying, and making himself appear to be someone he's not.

Which of the two ?

I am a non-US citizen, but since all the countries I care about have been, are being and will be ( for the immediate future) influenced by the US, Trump has been tame compared to his predecessors.
 

Bigking321

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Don't let perfection be the enemy of good.

Trump got some stuff wrong. The vaccine stuff is proof enough of that.

But literally everything was better with Trump as president than any other president in my lifetime. He isn't even conservative but he was the most conservative president in my lifetime. We had actual fighting and pushback against leftism.

I will absolutely take another Trump term.

Especially if he's pissed at being stabbed in the back like he was and goes on a rampage purging government.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
Which of the two ?

I am a non-US citizen, but since all the countries I care about have been, are being and will be ( for the immediate future) influenced by the US, Trump has been tame compared to his predecessors.
Making oneself appear to be someone one is not is lying, so there is no "two"; what came after the comma was just an elaboration on how he might be lying.
 

Cherico

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I'm honestly surprised someone hasn't just killed Fauci by now.

I'm talking about everything from an execution done by professional hitmen to just the Average Joe or Jane going up to him in the street and shoving a knife in his kidney, for various reasons (money, grief, deserved blame from relatives of his victims, et cetera).

This man is both indirectly and directly responsible for so much misery and death from two massive viral outbreaks over decades, it's nightmarish.

No, I'm not demanding his death (so the staff can rest easy there), though the cunt either certainly deserves to be put on trial for his actions or deserves to be killed: I'm just surprised someone hasn't done it already.

The man lied to congress and got caught red handed thats 5 years in the clink by itself.
 

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