China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

[Terthna]

The man lied to congress and got caught red handed thats 5 years in the clink by itself.

Not in this country; here, you get rewarded for doing something like that, so long as it's for selfish reasons.

 

[Cherico]

Not in this country; here, you get rewarded for doing something like that, so long as it's for selfish reasons.

that works only until it doesnt and then it really doesnt.

 

[DarthOne]

@DarthOne is very difficult for me to not believe @Sobek 's steoreotype considering the Reichkanzlerin was in there for longer than funny mustace dude and knowing a bit too many Germans are actually like that, not to mention that Merkel is from her father's side a Prussian, though she is also Polish.

With that said, you are right on it's not exclusive, considering my country is no longer a democracy.

Confirmation bias is a thing you know. One can easily look at, for example, the various Jewish far-leftists running around today and draw all sorts of equally nonsensical conclusions from that too.

And the Prussian/German tendencies towards authoritarianism has been overstated due to about 100 years of British and Pro-Anglo propaganda.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Confirmation bias is a thing you know. One can easily look at, for example, the various Jewish far-leftists running around today and draw all sorts of equally nonsensical conclusions from that too.

And the Prussian/German tendencies towards authoritarianism has been overstated due to about 100 years of British and Pro-Anglo propaganda.

Fair enough. You are right on that point.

Though on the first part... I have my own conclusions on it, as unorthodox and atypical leftist.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Making oneself appear to be someone one is not is lying, so there is no "two"; what came after the comma was just an elaboration on how he might be lying.

So...De Santis might appear honest but he could be the exact contrary?

 

[Vaermina]

Trump owns this for not even admitting adverse reactions are even happening,

Adverse reactions that are so rare they take something like 20,000,000 people to show up as more then statistical background noise?

for ignoring why vax's take years to get to market in order to rush these to the public,

He didn't, because they don't.

In fact, if Vaccine's took years to get to market yearly flu shots would be impossible since they only have about a 6 month lead time.

What you're thinking of is new vaccine technology, but even then, mRNA tech has been in testing for decades, so it would still be wrong.

for allowing vax makers to be shielded from liability for adverse reactions in order to get the vax's to market,

That wasn't actually a thing he did... It was a far leftest attempt to pin the idea on him.

In reality however that was codified into law under 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22 in 1988.

and for not firing Fauci 'because the Left would have gone into an uproar'.

This is the only thing you're actually right about.

 

[Rocinante]

So...De Santis might appear honest but he could be the exact contrary?

he's a successful politician. He's dishonest by nature. Same with all of them, even Trump.

It's just a matter of where/how/when/what he is dishonest about.

We are hoping he won't just play this character until he gets presidential seat and then go RINO on us.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Adverse reactions that are so rare they take something like 20,000,000 people to show up as more then statistical background noise?


He didn't, because they don't.

In fact, if Vaccine's took years to get to market yearly flu shots would be impossible since they only have about a 6 month lead time.

What you're thinking of is new vaccine technology, but even then, mRNA tech has been in testing for decades, so it would still be wrong.


That wasn't actually a thing he did... It was a far leftest attempt to pin the idea on him.

In reality however that was codified into law under 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22 in 1988.


This is the only thing you're actually right about.

So rare my ass, I have lost count how many people got either Pfizer, Moderna and Astrazenca had adverse reactions. I live a few meters from an hospital and they got dozens of those. Care to explain while normal, healthy people are starting to have their faces contorted or they have heart attacks ? Or drop dead ? With their problems just starting as soon as the needle left their arm ?

Morta a 18 anni dopo il vaccino: Camilla soffriva di piastrinopenia autoimmune. I Nas in ospedale, sequestrate le cartelle cliniche

Espiantati in mattinata gli organi della ragazza. Il governatore Toti: «Ci diano una parola chiara, definitiva e irreversibile sull'uso di AstraZeneca»

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18 years OLD !

AND SHE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO MANAGED TO GET TO THE NEWS.

WE GOT HUNDREDS OF THOSE. IF NOT THOUSANDS. IT'S A MIRACLE IF WE ARE NOT SURPASSING SIX DIGITS.

But since they are not talked about it in the NEWS, I guess they didn't happen right ?

Is it too ugly to just think maybe they are using most of humanity as guinea pigs and unwilling future "consumers" ?

Ever heard of Lysenkoism ?

Or the Tuskagee Syphilis Experiment ?

This is both of them at the same time.

 

[Bacle]

If the difference between someone being foolishly blinded by pride, and being a tyrant means 'jack shit' to you, then there's no reasoning with you.

When the fool enables the tyrant out of pride and ego, the difference becomes academic.

The sad thing is he may still actually be our only hope, even taking this new wrinkle into account; DeSantis might prove to be a viable or even better alternative, but he also might decide to align himself with the Republician establishment (who themselves have proven unwilling to challenge the Democrats in any meaningful way) the moment he gets inaugurated in as president. He wouldn't be the first to have done so.

I'll still vote Trump but as of now I kinda just want him to shut up and go away.

Desantis seems promising so far

Don't let perfection be the enemy of good.

Trump got some stuff wrong. The vaccine stuff is proof enough of that.

But literally everything was better with Trump as president than any other president in my lifetime. He isn't even conservative but he was the most conservative president in my lifetime. We had actual fighting and pushback against leftism.

I will absolutely take another Trump term.

Especially if he's pissed at being stabbed in the back like he was and goes on a rampage purging government.

I support this as well.

he's a successful politician. He's dishonest by nature. Same with all of them, even Trump.

It's just a matter of where/how/when/what he is dishonest about.

We are hoping he won't just play this character until he gets presidential seat and then go RINO on us.

If Trump's on the ticket, I will vote for him grudgingly, not happily or excitedly.

Also, I think throwing shade on DeSantis for hypotheticals is doing him a huge disservice.

Personally, if Trump runs again, I'd like Ben Carson as the VP pick; if DeSantis isn't top of the ticket, keep him in Florida.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

When the fool enables the tyrant out of pride and ego, the difference becomes academic.

Who has he enabled? He's literally just advising people to take a vaccine. That does not make him a thought criminal.

 

[Bacle]

Who has he enabled? He's literally just advising people to take a vaccine. That does not make him a thought criminal.

Trump ignores the adverse reactions, and pretends 'his' vax's have no side-effects or dangers of their own, which feeds the Biden admins narratives that the vax's work fine, it's the unvaxxed causing problems, which enables the who mandate/restriction regime.

How is this hard to understand for some people here?

 

[TheRejectionist]

Dore is so far the only I have seen who has reported that Robert Malone has been suspended from Twitter for "violating the rules".

 

[Vaermina]

So rare my ass, I have lost count how many people got either Pfizer, Moderna and Astrazenca had adverse reactions. I live a few meters from an hospital and they got dozens of those. Care to explain while normal, healthy people are starting to have their faces contorted or they have heart attacks ? Or drop dead ? With their problems just starting as soon as the needle left their arm ?

Prove it.

Prove it.

Prove it.

Oh, and then prove the causation was what you just claimed.

18 years OLD !

AND SHE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO MANAGED TO GET TO THE NEWS.

WE GOT HUNDREDS OF THOSE. IF NOT THOUSANDS. IT'S A MIRACLE IF WE ARE NOT SURPASSING SIX DIGITS.

But since they are not talked about it in the NEWS, I guess they didn't happen right ?

Is it too ugly to just think maybe they are using most of humanity as guinea pigs and unwilling future "consumers" ?

Which was a 1 in 88,000 occurrence.

Fun fact, they actually went and did above standard vaccine trials for these things. But guess what? A 1 in 88,000 chance occurrence isn't going to show up in that. And do you know why? Because a 1 in 88,000 chance of something occurring is too small to show up as anything other then statistical background noise for anything short of multiple millions.

 

[Terthna]

Prove it.

Prove it.

Prove it.

Oh, and then prove the causation was what you just claimed.

What would be the point? You've made it rather clear that you'll always reject the validity of anything that disproves your own arguments.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Prove it.

Prove it.

Prove it.

Oh, and then prove the causation was what you just claimed.


Which was a 1 in 88,000 occurrence.

Fun fact, they actually went and did above standard vaccine trials for these things. But guess what? A 1 in 88,000 chance occurrence isn't going to show up in that. And do you know why? Because a 1 in 88,000 chance of something occurring is too small to show up as anything other then statistical background noise for anything short of multiple millions.

That a blatant lie and you know It. There Is plenty of videos and proof showing Pfizer and the main others did an awful job (at best) or didnt care about testing.

Not to mention their goddamn criminal past.

Or their conflict of interest EVERYWHERE.

But feel free to be their Guinea pig and free megaphone, New Vaush.

 

[TheRejectionist]

On a different note , my sister stopped screaming when me and my mother stopped wearing masks today.

She came to the kitchen to put her dish away.

Just asked , while few centimeters away from me, if the washing machine was full.

Good God was It difficult to stand her these Days.

 

[TheRejectionist]

What would be the point? You've made it rather clear that you'll always reject the validity of anything that disproves your own arguments.

Like anyone from Space Battles?

 

[Vaermina]

What would be the point? You've made it rather clear that you'll always reject the validity of anything that disproves your own arguments.

That a blatant lie and you know It. There Is plenty of videos and proof showing Pfizer and the main others did an awful job (at best) or didnt care about testing.

Not to mention their goddamn criminal past.

Or their conflict of interest EVERYWHERE.

But feel free to be their Guinea pig and free megaphone, New Vaush.

The fact that random people on the internet yelling at camera's or claiming a thing totally happened so you better believe them, is what you two consider proof of a thing is very telling.

But guess what? It's not.

Do you know what is? A medical examiners report showing direct causation between a drug and or vaccine and a suffered side effect.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Also, I think throwing shade on DeSantis for hypotheticals is doing him a huge disservice.

Completely agree with you here. This kind of attitude can often be a self-fulfilling prophecy b/c the candidate then has to turn to the establishment for support b/c people don't want to support someone they assume will become one.

 

[Jormungandr]

The fact that random people on the internet yelling at camera's or claiming a thing totally happened so you better believe them, is what you two consider proof of a thing is very telling.

But guess what? It's not.

Do you know what is? A medical examiners report showing direct causation between a drug and or vaccine and a suffered side effect.

This is anecdotal, but a lot of but not all people I've talked to/watched comments of have complained of multi-week long headaches and muscle aching after taking the second booster shots.

To be frank, you're constantly demanding evidence and figures from the very same organizations and doctors whom are, for a multitude of reasons (e.g. self-preservation, greed/self-interest, being effectively bribed in the case of WHO and China), not actively reporting or are just ignoring how prevalent these side-effects are in people.

You're sticking to the same ol' rhetoric that these side-effects are simply as uncommon/rare as they are in other medications and side-effects, where news is slowly leaking out like blood from a thousand cuts that they're not.

And the ones that are? You pretty much dismiss them all in attitude as being "fringe lunatics" (especially if they're Christian, though granted you have a portion of said Christians saying this "God will protect me!" bullshit) and the like (again, granted, there are some that are batshit insane anti-vaxxers that need to be scoffed at, but you're placing everyone who complains or tries to tell people in this group).

No, not everyone whom is complaining of side-effects or know people who have suffered/died after taking the vaccines and the boosters are bots, or shit-stirrers, or nutcases, like you like to claim/cling to: There are so many people from different countries, from different walks of life, from different areas on the political spectrum, saying the same things, across different sites/mediums, over and over about the side-effects affecting them or their loved ones.

I respect that you have a contrasting viewpoint to most people here. It's actually needed as some people here sometimes veer straight into batshit conspiracy theory or even anti-vaxxer territory. But there will be never any way to please or satisfy you because the very notion that you could be wrong, that these vaccines and boosters are ineffective at best and outright harmful/lethal at worst, is alien to you; that these medical professionals and organizations that you, ironically, cling to like religious gospel have and still are being duplicitous with everyone at best.

"Five cheeseburgers per day is a good source of protein!" -- a study from ObesityIsFine.org (yes, this is a hyperbolic and sarcastic example).

This is your hill and you're willing to die on it, and you've become as bad as the batshit insane anti-vaxxers themselves but on the other end of scale.

Oh, and let's not forget the rash of footballers who have collapsed, had heart-attacks, or have died within a week of having the vaccine or boosters (which is fucking hilarious, as FIFA have stated there is "no correlation" despite all the players having the fucking vaccine within a week of collapsing! ).

Healthy athletes all developing heart-issues or just dying "expectantly". Hum!