Trump Investigations Thread

[Blasterbot]

Loses gracefully? You can actually say that with a straight face after 2020?

YES. Dems were saying if they lost the west coast should secede from the union at the time. They wargamed it out. when they lost 2016 they outright fabricated a scandal to throw at Trump and tie up the incoming administration. wasting 10s of millions of dollars and a stupid amount of man hours. the GOP establishment types of McCain and Romney were all about losing gracefully. that Romney's niece is trying to get the GOP to continue that since she took over is unsurprising to any who know.

 

[Bigking321]

Even when the Gop as a whole win the establishment still tries to lose gracefully...

 

[evilchumlee]

YES. Dems were saying if they lost the west coast should secede from the union at the time. They wargamed it out. when they lost 2016 they outright fabricated a scandal to throw at Trump and tie up the incoming administration. wasting 10s of millions of dollars and a stupid amount of man hours. the GOP establishment types of McCain and Romney were all about losing gracefully. that Romney's niece is trying to get the GOP to continue that since she took over is unsurprising to any who know.

Trump ran a propaganda campaign that people still buy into about a "rigged" election and that he actually won, that he still maintains to this day... without even mentioning the whole terrorist attack on our nations capitol.

 

[bintananth]

you're full of shiiitt

Call me when a home in that area is sold for Northward of 225,000,000 and I'll be impressed by your claims of Rockefeller tier legacy nonsense.

As are you. No one who has ever had a Clayton,MO address with Wydown as a home address has that much cash on hand. It's more like several million set aside for an emergency that they might not be able to afford

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

As are you. No one who has ever had a Clayton,MO address with Wydown as a home address has that much cash on hand. It's more like several million set aside for an emergency that they might not be able to afford

Now you're waffling lmao

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Trump ran a propaganda campaign that people still buy into about a "rigged" election and that he actually won, that he still maintains to this day... without even mentioning the whole terrorist attack on our nations capitol.

Right, because even if that were true (It isn't, he was the victim of a coup de'tat.) planning a fucking civil war and war gamming it is a million times worse than talking shit in front of a mic.

One is running your mouth.

The other is actual treason and rebellion.

 

[bintananth]

Now you're waffling lmao

And you don't know jack shit about billion dollar cheques. I might be able to sign one of those once if Princess ok's it beforehand.

 

[bintananth]

Now you're waffling lmao

So what? I'm fairly certain that you've never said "No, I ain't signing that" to a multi-million dollar cheque.

 

[Poe]

And you don't know jack shit about billion dollar cheques. I might be able to sign one of those once if Princess ok's it beforehand.

So what? I'm fairly certain that you've never said "No, I ain't signing that" to a multi-million dollar cheque.

Dude your larps are cringe, people with money don't have to beg others to believe them

 

[LordsFire]

It's by no means all conservatives. I'm talking about the extremes. Are you telling me that our Neo-Nazi's, skinheads, Ku Klux Klan, etc. types are not voting Republican?

Yes, Richard Spencer openly stated he voted for Biden.

Further, conflating fascists with Conservatives is nonsense. American political Conservatism is about small and limited government, while fascism is literally 'the state controls all.'

The KKK is even more ridiculous; it was founded by democrats, revived by democrats, and only shifted to a powerless fringe when the democrats decided to kick them out. They've never been welcome in the Republican party.


Fundamentally, your posting about the extremists of 'both sides' shows that you consume leftist propaganda hook, line, and sinker, and have no clue what conservatism or conservatives are actually like or about.

The idea that the J6 riot was a terror attack or attempted insurrection is even more ridiculous. If the most well-armed political movement in human history had been attempting such things, or even a tiny fringe of said movement, there would have been corpses strewn all over the place; instead the only person shot was Ashley Babbit, by a Capitol Hill Police officer who has 'somehow' avoided homicide or murder charges.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

And you don't know jack shit about billion dollar cheques. I might be able to sign one of those once if Princess ok's it beforehand.

You're poor, no one believes you, and you're a fucking broke-ass larper with no life and zero accomplishments to your name.

Also what kind of billionaire needs his fucking wife's permission to spend his own money? Not only are you full of shit, but you think acting like a gigantic cuck is a flex? As opposed to total emasculation?

Pathetic.

Dude your larps are cringe, people with money don't have to beg others to believe them

And like I said even if that were true, no one on the left deserves any kind of success and they usually need government contracts to do it.

Gibsmedats don't make you rich, it just makes you a bigger welfare junky.

The idea that the J6 riot was a terror attack or attempted insurrection is even more ridiculous. If the most well-armed political movement in human history had been attempting such things, or even a tiny fringe of said movement, there would have been corpses strewn all over the place; instead the only person shot was Ashley Babbit, by a Capitol Hill Police officer who has 'somehow' avoided homicide or murder charges.

It's wild when people used to bring guns into the Capitol building all the time, both regular people in the gallery and protestors, and the Reps were also armed to the teeth. No one cared, no one lost their minds and most of the time everyone would congregate around the same ashtrays.

The great boomer walkathon was just that...a bunch of people going for a stroll.

Meanwhile there's video evidence of DC cops sadistically firing into peaceful crowds and I'd argue that's terrorism.

 

[IndyFront]

The idea that the J6 riot was a terror attack or attempted insurrection is even more ridiculous. If the most well-armed political movement in human history had been attempting such things, or even a tiny fringe of said movement, there would have been corpses strewn all over the place; instead the only person shot was Ashley Babbit, by a Capitol Hill Police officer who has 'somehow' avoided homicide or murder charges.

Eh, I'm no fan of the cops but if you're storming past a barricade toward a bunch of cops with guns drawn and pointed at you to begin with you kind of deserve to get shot imo

 

[Bigking321]

Pretty sure the storming past a barricade then towards a bunch if cops with guns out and pointed... is not at all a thing that happened.

 

[Vyor]

Eh, I'm no fan of the cops but if you're storming past a barricade toward a bunch of cops with guns drawn and pointed at you to begin with you kind of deserve to get shot imo

It was literally in a hallway. All she was doing was yelling.

 

[IndyFront]

It was literally in a hallway. All she was doing was yelling.

Sauce please
EDIT: She was still climbing through a barricaded doorway while cops were pointing guns at her. Is a good way to get shot.

 

[evilchumlee]

Fundamentally, your posting about the extremists of 'both sides' shows that you consume leftist propaganda hook, line, and sinker, and have no clue what conservatism or conservatives are actually like or about.

And the fact that you seem to think these types are... liberals? Shows a complete and total lack of understanding of reality.

I agree, conservatism is about small and limited government. But... I wouldn't really call the GOP "conservative" by that measure. They want small government... when it suits them, otherwise big government is ok.

The idea that the J6 riot was a terror attack or attempted insurrection is even more ridiculous. If the most well-armed political movement in human history had been attempting such things, or even a tiny fringe of said movement, there would have been corpses strewn all over the place; instead the only person shot was Ashley Babbit, by a Capitol Hill Police officer who has 'somehow' avoided homicide or murder charges.

Nobody claimed it was a particularly competent or effective attack, but it was absolutely a terror attack by the very definition of what terrorism is. They used violence and intimidation to attempt to influence political change. Literally, terrorism. There SHOULD have been corpses strewn about the place. It's a travesty there wasn't.

I'm not really sure how a capitol police officer doing his job and defending the capitol would need to "somehow" avoid charges. He was a hero who shot and killed a traitor to this nation. He should have been given the highest honors.

 

[evilchumlee]

The other is actual treason and rebellion.

Treason and rebellion? Like attacking our nation's capitol with the express purpose of interfering with the peaceful transfer of power? Indeed...

 

[LordsFire]

Nobody claimed it was a particularly competent or effective attack, but it was absolutely a terror attack by the very definition of what terrorism is. They used violence and intimidation to attempt to influence political change. Literally, terrorism. There SHOULD have been corpses strewn about the place. It's a travesty there wasn't.

No, it was not.

It was a riot, as demonstrated by the (very minor) property damage and various small thefts.

There was no attempt to assault or kill any members of Congress or the Senate. There were no attempts to kill the capitol police. Some of the protestors got rowdy, which is why it was fitting to call a riot, but there are literally thousands of hours of footage showing how almost all of those present were entirely peaceful.

Heck of a lot more peaceful than the 'mostly peaceful' protests of the prior Summer.


If you're going to hold to the perspective that you do, you likewise think that those who tried to force their way into the White House and Capitol more recently, largely in response to what's going on in Israel and Gaza?

 

[Lord Sovereign]

The Capitol Riot was no insurrection, but it was a very poorly thought out mess. Half forcing entry into a government building, with congressmen, senators and their armed security present? It’s miracle so few died.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Treason and rebellion? Like attacking our nation's capitol with the express purpose of interfering with the peaceful transfer of power? Indeed...

What you're describing never happened.