Fallout The Eagle And The Bear [Fallout AU]

Navarro

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I think you have done a fine job of it, most of the time we hear about factories they are being converted to war production. It's just the expected wave of material and machinery has not been shown hitting the NCR despite the fronts being so close to the industrial heartlands.

A. Much of the industry is being or has been moved past the Appalachians.
B. Harsh weather conditions are complicating logistics and troop movements for both sides (the NCR more so as they have much less experience in winter fighting).

That is a serious problem for the NCR. If they do not take Chicago they will be in a lot of trouble. The Brotherhood territory is almost tailor-made to be quickly reincorporated back into EUSA.

They know they need a quick victory to fulfill their ultimate objective, but still don't know that total NCR victory was never in the cards. But there are degrees of victory, and their population ratio with the USA in 2331 is more in their favour than either the South vs the North in 1861 or Germany vs Russia in 1941 (60% vs 45% and 27% respectively). And they have much better terrain for defensive purposes.
 
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Paladin Wulfen

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I am amused by one thing. No one seems to have noticed that House is tired of being trapped in his body. Therefore, if the Enclave makes him the indicated offer, he could betray the NCR ... For example, the Enclave manufacture his own body similar to those used by the Institute.

Apart from the fact that the Enclave could have the location of Big MT which in the future they could access there with relative ease and unravel all kinds of technological secrets.

Although I have the doubt ... The NCR has control in The Divide or is an exclusion zone such as Mariposa or some other special place.
 

CarlManvers2019

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I am amused by one thing. No one seems to have noticed that House is tired of being trapped in his body. Therefore, if the Enclave makes him the indicated offer, he could betray the NCR ... For example, the Enclave manufacture his own body similar to those used by the Institute.

Apart from the fact that the Enclave could have the location of Big MT which in the future they could access there with relative ease and unravel all kinds of technological secrets.

Although I have the doubt ... The NCR has control in The Divide or is an exclusion zone such as Mariposa or some other special place.

Given how the NCR has control over both, more-or-less, would be funny for em to meet again

From what I recall House and members of the Big MT had a sort of rivalry
 

Argent

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They landed a man on Mars not a decade ago and regularly fly spaceplanes to the Moon.

How much of that is new tech and how much is just refurbished pre war gear?


Becasue I can see that while the Enclave would like to have a decent space programs I think most of their rescue is would be used to rebuilding the satellite grid for GPS and Communications. I see the flights to the moon as them setting up a new oil rig and Mar being mainly a PR stunt.

I honestly don't think the Enclave will truly have a interplanetary space program till after they have troops in the Boneyard.
 

Navarro

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The Lunar flights are based around getting Helium-3 and the facilities there aren't inhabited permanently. And yes, Mars was a PR stunt - they landed, planted Old Glory, collected some rocks for scientific study and flew back home.
 
Sidestory: China, Part One

Navarro

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A glimpse at what's happening across the Pacific.

==*==

March 22, 2332 (383 People’s Revolutionary Calendar)

Somewhere in Northern China



The mud-walled thatched houses of the collective farming unit smoked in the first light of early dawn, and the soldiers nearby bowed before an image outside it. It was of a man of advanced years, bold characters proclaiming it to be of the Supreme Leader of the Democratic People’s Republic of China. The Party Official leading them recited the words of the Sunrise Incantation, which they repeated after him.

“Ten thousand years to you, O Supreme Leader,
Who kept us safe from the Great Invasion,
Who makes the Sun rise in the morning,
And the clouds give forth rain.
From your great house in Beijing,
Protect the Revolution and lead us to the workers’ paradise.
Ten thousand years to you, O Supreme Leader.”

The Commanding Officer of the military unit in question was first to rise from the Sunrise Invocation, followed by his fellows. The previous day they had dealt with the traitors of this area – not that there had been any legal proceedings in that quarter, but it was an obvious that the peasants must have been hoarding grain in a counter-revolutionary act caused by residual rightist-capitalist-fascist sympathies among them. So units of the People’s Liberation Army had sallied forth from their bunker-garrisons in mid-March to carry out a campaign of terror and slaughter against them, more so as to dissuade such acts in future as to punish the perpetrators.

Some notables had been beaten and otherwise tortured until they admitted to counter-revolutionary sabotage - at which point sharpened stakes of bamboo had been set out, and these most malicious saboteurs were stripped naked and impaled on them – some were still moaning as they ran out their inevitable demise. Then the soldiers had slaughtered the entire village – clad in their three-eyed fusion-powered thunder-armour and carrying gauss assault-rifles, there was no chance of them being halted. More peasants would repopulate it in future – there were always more peasants.

The place had been ransacked of any hoarded valuables – though there was not much to take. There had then been an inspection of the granaries, which were only at 50% of their capacity – clearly those individuals working there must have been in on the conspiracy, and must obviously have deliberately burned the grain and rice supplies collected by the collective farming unit. For lack of bamboo stakes, they were all rounded up and shot.

The Democratic People’s Republic of China was most clearly, under the wise and noble instruction of the Supreme Leader, the most beneficent government in the world. For indeed, had he not ruled nobly and ably from when he united the country in Year 1 of the People’s Revolutionary Calendar, through the invasion from across the eastern sea and the atomic fires that had ravaged China? A dozen Great Leaps Forward, scores of Five Year Plans, and China inched closer each and every year to the Workers’ Paradise. It may not seem to actually be going anywhere, but how could it when counter-revolutionaries lurked within and reactionaries stalked around its borders? A hundred years ago, the Russians to the far north-west had abandoned even the pretense that they were working towards the Workers’ Paradise – of course, they had been capitalist-reactionary in all but name from the period of the Great Invasion onward, if not before that.

The troops moved on marching, until at a nearby railhead that they were told that they were not returning to their usual base some 20 miles away but mustering at Dalian. Every train on the rail network ran through the same Central Rail Building at Beijing on its course, so it would not add much time to their journey – but it was a mystery as to why they were being redeployed so far away.

The CO blurted out a question to that effect, which provoked the Party official assigned to the unit – who had recently argued with him over a minor matter of the Supreme Leader’s teaching – to order him investigated. At Beijing, he was grabbed by Party members and never seen again – though screams were heard from the gargantuan Central Administration Building that night, and some weeks later a naked corpse, its face beaten and mutilated to the point it didn’t look human, was hung from one of the cornices of one of its towers.

Such were the way things went in a society heading towards utopia.
 
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Floridaman

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A glimpse at what's happening across the Pacific.

==*==

March 22, 2332 (383 People’s Revolutionary Calendar)

Somewhere in Northern China



The mud-walled thatched houses of the collective farming unit smoked in the first light of early dawn, and the soldiers nearby bowed before an image outside it. It was of a man of advanced years, bold characters proclaiming it to be of the Supreme Leader of the Democratic People’s Republic China. The Party Official leading them recited the words of the Sunrise Incantation, which they repeated after him.

“Ten thousand years to you, O Supreme Leader,
Who kept us safe from the Great Invasion,
Who makes the Sun rise in the morning,
And the clouds give forth rain.
From your great house in Beijing,
Protect the Revolution and lead us to the workers’ paradise.
Ten thousand years to you, O Supreme Leader.”

The Commanding Officer of the military unit in question was first to rise from the Sunrise Invocation, followed by his fellows. The previous day they had dealt with the traitors of this area – not that there had been any legal proceedings in that quarter, but it was an obvious that the peasants must have been hoarding grain in a counter-revolutionary act caused by residual rightist-capitalist-fascist sympathies among them. So units of the People’s Liberation Army had sallied forth from their bunker-garrisons in mid-March to carry out a campaign of terror and slaughter against them, more so as to dissuade such acts in future as to punish the perpetrators.

Some notables had been beaten and otherwise tortured until they admitted to counter-revolutionary sabotage - at which point sharpened stakes of bamboo had been set out, and these most malicious saboteurs were stripped naked and impaled on them – some were still moaning as they ran out their inevitable demise. Then the soldiers had slaughtered the entire village – clad in their three-eyed fusion-powered thunder-armour and carrying gauss assault-rifles, there was no chance of them being halted. More peasants would repopulate it in future – there were always more peasants.

The place had been ransacked of any hoarded valuables – though there was not much to take. There had then been an inspection of the granaries, which were only at 50% of their capacity – clearly those individuals working there must have been in on the conspiracy, and must obviously have deliberately burned the grain and rice supplies collected by the collective farming unit. For lack of bamboo stakes, they were all rounded up and shot.

The Democratic People’s Republic of China was most clearly, under the wise and noble instruction of the Supreme Leader, the most beneficent government in the world. For indeed, had he not ruled nobly and ably from when he united the country in Year 1 of the People’s Revolutionary Calendar, through the invasion from across the eastern sea and the atomic fires that had ravaged China? A dozen Great Leaps Forward, scores of Five Year Plans, and China inched closer each and every year to the Workers’ Paradise. It may not seem to actually be going anywhere, but how could it when counter-revolutionaries lurked within and reactionaries stalked around its borders? A hundred years ago, the Russians to the far north-west had abandoned even the pretense that they were working towards the Workers’ Paradise – of course, they had been capitalist-reactionary in all but name from the period of the Great Invasion onward, if not before that.

The troops moved on marching, until at a nearby railhead that they were told that they were not returning to their usual base some 20 miles away but mustering at Dalian. Every train on the rail network ran through the same Central Rail Building at Beijing on its course, so it would not add much time to their journey – but it was a mystery as to why they were being redeployed so far away.

The CO blurted out a question to that effect, which provoked the Party official assigned to the unit – who had recently argued with him over a minor matter of the Supreme Leader’s teaching – to order him investigated. At Beijing, he was grabbed by Party members and never seen again – though screams were heard from the gargantuan Central Administration Building that night, and some weeks later a naked corpse, its face beaten and mutilated to the point it didn’t look human, was hung from one of the cornices of one of its towers.

Such were the way things went in a society heading towards utopia.
The chi com armor from 76 makes an appearance I see.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Wait he’s been in charge since 2025? That’s terrifying. As is everything else that happened in this snippet.

Either he’s like Robert House and decaying VERY slowly or he’s more of just a propaganda figure and the PRC is ruled by a Shadow Cabal of sorts

The closest way I can describe this “Celestial Kingdom” is a sort of “Socialist Tzardom” that borders on a Theocracy
 

SuperHeavy

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Well with this level sheer waste, inability to deal with negative facts, and suppression of intuitive I'm amazed they are holding as much territory as they do. Everyone else must be running around with WWI gear while they have access whatever stockpiles/emergency bunkers the PLA had left.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Well with this level sheer waste, inability to deal with negative facts, and suppression of intuitive I'm amazed they are holding as much territory as they do. Everyone else must be running around with WWI gear while they have access whatever stockpiles/emergency bunkers the PLA had left.

They didn’t do a dumb “One Child Policy” lately most likely
 

CarlManvers2019

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I doubt it. The Chinese Republican faction is partly descended from pre-war US soldiers so they probably have some good tech too.
That would raise the question of why they have not moved to crush the Communists over the past 200+ years.

It’s Post-Great War, odds are they didn’t have the manpower and infrastructure to do so

Also, the PRC probably used spies and “intellectuals” to help make it so that moving against the PRC would be a move against basic decency and also prey on whatever socioeconomic problems the other Chinas have and offer the PRC as the solution

Any talk and evidence or outright invasions by the PRC would be dismissed as insane propaganda
 

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