DarthAwesome
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I think the E-USA stomped them, because they wanted to free the synths, which the E-USA wanted wiped out.
Fallout The Eagle And The Bear [Fallout AU]
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Navarro
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Sooo, I was looking around for FO fanart, and found this on artstation:
Basically, this is roundabout what Shady Sands looks like in the 2330s.
Basically, this is roundabout what Shady Sands looks like in the 2330s.
Navarro
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Ch. 25 still going at good speed, but slowly in this heat. Snippet:
==*==
“Before we start this production of Guys and Dolls,” the manager, a balding man whose lifestyle evidently had him eating more than was good for him, said from centre stage. “We would like to give our most humble well-regards to the honourable Nathan Washington, President of the United States, who has chosen to honour us with his presence, and to present this special entertainment for his and your amusement.”
Shoulda told me beforehand, Nate mused, and they shouldn’t treat me like some sorta king. They hadn’t treated him half so obsequiously when he was a Senator. Part of him wondered if seeking the Federalist nomination had been the right idea just for that alone; but then without his presence in the Campaign it would have been Governor Richardson of Maryland. The boy lacked the experience to properly lead in this time of crisis; he’d have been better than Travis but not by much. As a reward for going second place in the primary Nate had selected the man as running mate, so there was that. Alex Autumn had been the only other potential real contender in 2330, and he’d been still mourning his father’s death from cancer. For a moment he wondered who the old man would have selected – de facto via his enormous influence on both the Federalist Party bosses and the common voters – but then decided just to enjoy the show.
The main cast members came out, carrying prop laser rifles and clad in papier-mache T-72 suit replicas. Everybody clapped as they appeared – and then came on the antagonists for this little drama – extras dressed in stage versions of NCR uniforms. They sneered at and taunted the US people, then attacked with full dramatic vigour. There was a mock-fight, with copious amounts of dry ice so that it looked as if laser rifles were actually firing, and punches and kicks that actually looked at least semi-realistic. The NCR group lost easily, and joined up with the US group on stage, then began to sing:
“There’s a Yankee doodle spirit now in the hearts of everyone;
The same Yankee doodle spirit now that’s shouldering our guns;
For freedom and unity; our freedom and unity;
Rights that our fathers won!”
“For these we’ll fight with all our might!
and never shall we cease!
Until we win the victory!
and neverending peace!
So light up that old Yankee doodle spirit;
And forever let it-”
Nate’s phone beeped incessantly in his pocket – not his pip-boy, it’d be bad form to go to any event with that on his left forearm – and he took it out, flipping it open. White House Chief of Staff, he mused as he read the screen before pressing the reply button. Must be actually important.
==*==
Lotsa stuff happens in Ch. 25. And I do mean lots.
==*==
“Before we start this production of Guys and Dolls,” the manager, a balding man whose lifestyle evidently had him eating more than was good for him, said from centre stage. “We would like to give our most humble well-regards to the honourable Nathan Washington, President of the United States, who has chosen to honour us with his presence, and to present this special entertainment for his and your amusement.”
Shoulda told me beforehand, Nate mused, and they shouldn’t treat me like some sorta king. They hadn’t treated him half so obsequiously when he was a Senator. Part of him wondered if seeking the Federalist nomination had been the right idea just for that alone; but then without his presence in the Campaign it would have been Governor Richardson of Maryland. The boy lacked the experience to properly lead in this time of crisis; he’d have been better than Travis but not by much. As a reward for going second place in the primary Nate had selected the man as running mate, so there was that. Alex Autumn had been the only other potential real contender in 2330, and he’d been still mourning his father’s death from cancer. For a moment he wondered who the old man would have selected – de facto via his enormous influence on both the Federalist Party bosses and the common voters – but then decided just to enjoy the show.
The main cast members came out, carrying prop laser rifles and clad in papier-mache T-72 suit replicas. Everybody clapped as they appeared – and then came on the antagonists for this little drama – extras dressed in stage versions of NCR uniforms. They sneered at and taunted the US people, then attacked with full dramatic vigour. There was a mock-fight, with copious amounts of dry ice so that it looked as if laser rifles were actually firing, and punches and kicks that actually looked at least semi-realistic. The NCR group lost easily, and joined up with the US group on stage, then began to sing:
“There’s a Yankee doodle spirit now in the hearts of everyone;
The same Yankee doodle spirit now that’s shouldering our guns;
For freedom and unity; our freedom and unity;
Rights that our fathers won!”
“For these we’ll fight with all our might!
and never shall we cease!
Until we win the victory!
and neverending peace!
So light up that old Yankee doodle spirit;
And forever let it-”
Nate’s phone beeped incessantly in his pocket – not his pip-boy, it’d be bad form to go to any event with that on his left forearm – and he took it out, flipping it open. White House Chief of Staff, he mused as he read the screen before pressing the reply button. Must be actually important.
==*==
Lotsa stuff happens in Ch. 25. And I do mean lots.
SuperHeavy
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Currently my guess is:
- Waves of clones from the NCR program begin decanting
- Trouble in Europe as NCR plans to disrupt US reinforcements bear fruit
- House uses the information coming in to run the numbers and decides the NCR is not winning this
Aaron Fox
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[Clone Army March starts in the background]
That would put a damper on the various plans that the 'Pheniox' Enclave would be doing.
Yeah, House is basically a Hari Seldon with a very technocratic and capitalistic bent. I wouldn't be surprised that he literally jumps ship before shit goes downhill.
@Navarro, if you can provide me with the weights and top (hard ground) speeds of the various vehicles, it would be greatly appreciated.
SuperHeavy
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Well he can't come out overtly for the US while surrounded by NCR forces, and any half competent intelligence branch will also have someone like House under heavy surveillance. On the other hand the man is a genius with decades to make backup plans so slipping out information is far from impossible.
Aaron Fox
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Given how stretched thin the NCR is? That would be a canon-breaking amount of competence.
The NCR is literally having the same problems as Rome did during the late republic, just magnified.
Aaron Fox
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Depends on what he has on the table. I believe that you had the NCR ending as the 'canon' ending?
Navarro
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The cut ending where the NCR takes over the Mojave but House survives.
Aaron Fox
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So he doesn't have his hidden Securitrons operational then. That would be a problem if he tries to switch sides.
Navarro
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M75 Custer: top speed is 90kph on-road, weight 80 tons
M81 Constantine: top speed 60kph on-road, weight 150 tons
M72 Lafayette: top speed 120kph on-road, weight 25 tons
M251 Lejeune/Ridgeway: top speed 120kph on-road, weight 15 tons
M125 Dornan: 65 kph on-road, weight 35 tons unloaded.
M812 Ranger: 140 kph on-road, weight 8 tons
These are all roughly based on said vehicles' RL equivalents.
Aaron Fox
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Ok, that makes things easier. I'll cook some up later today or tomorrow.
Fox's GURPS Conversions, 1
Aaron Fox
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@Navarro, well, I got the ranger done, and it's pretty interesting. I assumed that the PA is going to be 500kg in mass (or roughly 5.512 times the standard multiple) for this and used the V-100 series (aka the Cadilac Gage Commando) as the basis.
Added some bits like the flotation hull, sloped sides, and non-standard off-road wheels. To be honest, it's going to be doing Eurobeats offroad. The armor is a laminate (i.e. a better version of composite armor) that can resist 0.50BMG rounds (the damage of a 12.7x99mm HMG in GURPS is 13d+1 or 13 die and add 1 to the result, and when using the 3.5 average multiplier that means 46.5 or roughly 46 or 47 damage before adding various armor divisors (aka how efficient the round goes through armor)) on all sides... but can't resist the plasma blaster repeater.
I had to do some back-conversion from a GURPS 4e to get the damage output numbers. I assumed that the gattling laser would be a laser rifle in gattling configuration (which, to be honest, it is) and the rapid-fire plasma blaster being an improved plasma rifle.
Funnily enough, that's simple compared to what I have to make for my Future-History setting, as the weapons in Fallout have equivalents in various GURPS articles and settings (with someone actually going through the trouble of getting Fallout to 4e GURPS):
26 metric tons of Humvee/Fernek with me having to use a variation of Battletech armor for it to not die easily. The weapons I had to make a google sheet for just so I can get them accurate. To give you an idea, a rough calc on the penetration capability of that HMG is ~110mm of RHA if the Krupp calculator that I have bookmarked is any indication.
M812 "Ranger":
TL10 Enclave M812 Ranger
Crew: 1 total. 1 crew station covering vehicle maneuvering system, 3 communicators, 7 countermeasures. 3 additional passengers.
Subassemblies: Vehicle +5, Hull +4, Fore Armed Capola [Hull:T] -1, Rear Armed Capola [Hull:T] -1, Wheels +4.
P&P: 35,280-kW Enclave Fusion Reactor (33.28MW Variant) (200 year duration; no access space), two 125-kW Electric Hydrojets (125kW Variant)s (no access space), 220-kW Electric Wheel Drivetrain (220kW Variant) (all wheel drive; short term access).
Fuel:
Occ: cramped Driver Position (airbag, crashweb), three cramped PA(L) Passenger Seats (crashweb), 4-man NBC kit, 4-man Environmental Control System Cargo:
Armor F RL B T U
Hull 5/75 5/75 4/50 4/50 4/50
Fore Armed Capola (T) 4/50 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0
Rear Armed Capola (T) 4/50 0/0 0/0 0/0 0/0
Weaponry Malf Type Damage SS Acc 1/2D m Max m RoF TL
255kJ/30.6MW Gattling Pulse Laser Ver. (Crit.) Imp. 12d 20 16 900 1,800 60 10
210kJ/4.2MW Plasma Repeater Ver. (Crit.) Imp. 16d 17 17 900 1,800 10 10
Equipment
Hull: six hot smoke Hot Smoke Dischargers; three hot smoke Hot Smoke Dischargers; three hot smoke Hot Smoke Dischargers; six hot smoke Hot Smoke Reloads; six hot smoke Hot Smoke Reloads; eight hot smoke Hot Smoke Reloads; two short range Short-Range Radio-sets (500-mile range; VLF, ELF, direction finder); medium range Sat-Link Radio-set (5,000-mile range; VLF, ELF, direction finder); three 500-gig Database Hard Drives (hardened); 1,000-gig Computer Hard Drive (hardened); Computer Terminal; mainframe Vehicle Computer (complexity 6; hardened, very high capacity); Encryption Database; Warbook Database; Navigation Database; four advanced Sensor Detection Systems; laminate Armor Volume. Fore Armed Capola (T): Gattling Laser Universal Mount; four-barrel 0.255MJ 255kJ/30.6MW Gattling Pulse Laser (close range;compact, pulse); Capola Man Position; IR Searchlight (F, 1-mile range); Searchlight (F, 1-mile range). Rear Armed Capola (T): Plasma Repeater Universal Mount; 0.21MJ 210kJ/4.2MW Plasma Repeater (very long range); Capola Man Position; Searchlight (F, 1-mile range); IR Searchlight (F, 1-mile range).
Statistics
Size: [LxWxH] 6.25 m x3 m x2.5 m Payload: 3,145 kg Lwt.: 8,045 kg
Volume: 46.8 m^3 Maint.: 7.43 hours (12.9 mh/day) Price: $7,250,754
HT: 12 HP: 1,800 [Hull], 20 [Fore Armed Capola (T)], 16 [Rear Armed Capola (T)], 750 each [4xWheels].
Amphibious Performance: Drag 136, Top Speed 32.2 kph, wAccel 9.66 kph/s, wMR 0.75, wSR 6, wDecel (powered) 16.1 kph/s, ( 12.8 mph/s), Draft 0.549 m, Flotation 56,610 lbs.
Wheel Ground Performance: Speed Factor 18, Top Speed 145 kph, gAccel 6.44 kph/s, gDecel 24.1 kph/s, gMR 1.25, gSR 5, Ground Pressure 1,171 lbs./sf, Off Road Speed 72.4 kph.
Design Notes:
TL10 heavy frame advanced materials [Hull].
TL10 heavy frame advanced materials [Wheels].
F TL10 DR 50 advanced laminate [Fore Armed Capola].
F TL10 DR 50 advanced laminate [Rear Armed Capola].
TL10 DR 50 advanced laminate [Hull].
Payload Cost: $1,800
Vehicle Features: electronic controls, no streamlining.
Hull: flotation hull, mediocre lines, 30° Front Slope, 30° Left Slope, 30° Right Slope.
Wheels: quantity 4, non-standard sizex3.3, off-road, all wheel drive, improved suspension, improved brakes, all wheel steering, puncture resistant.
Fore Armed Capola: full rotation.
Rear Armed Capola: full rotation.
Volume: 28.1 m^3 [Hull], 0.055 m^3 [Fore Armed Capola (T)], 0.041 m^3 [Rear Armed Capola (T)], 18.6 m^3 [Wheels].
Area: 55.7 m^2 [Hull], 0.929 m^2 [Fore Armed Capola (T)], 0.743 m^2 [Rear Armed Capola (T)], 46.5 m^2 [Wheels].
Wheel Ground Performance:;I had to do some back-conversion from a GURPS 4e to get the damage output numbers. I assumed that the gattling laser would be a laser rifle in gattling configuration (which, to be honest, it is) and the rapid-fire plasma blaster being an improved plasma rifle.
Funnily enough, that's simple compared to what I have to make for my Future-History setting, as the weapons in Fallout have equivalents in various GURPS articles and settings (with someone actually going through the trouble of getting Fallout to 4e GURPS):
SolForce Armored Utility Vehicle (Standard, HMG Variant):
TL12 SolForce Armored Utility Vehicle (Standard HMG Variant)
Crew: 2 total. 2 crew stations covering vehicle maneuvering system, 6 communicators, 4 navigation aids, 15 sensors, 5 targeting systems, 13 countermeasures. 5 additional passengers.
Subassemblies: Vehicle +5, Body +5, 4xADS Turret [Body:T] +1, RWS Mount [Body:T] +2, 4xSensor Turret [Body:T] +2, Wheels +4.
P&P: 1,000 20-MJ rechargeable UVPLAMS/500MW-0260N Capacitors [4xADS Turret], 50,000-kW SolForce Mk2 Micro-Fusion Reactor (50MW Variant) (200 year duration; no access space), two 250-kW SolForce Electric Hydrojet (250kW Variant)s (no access space), 1,250-kW SolForce Electric Wheel Drivetrain (1.25MW Variant) (all wheel drive; no access space).
Fuel:
Occ: two cramped Vehicle Crew Stations (airbag, crashweb), five cramped Passenger Seats (crashweb), 7-man Enviromental Control System, 7-man NBC Kit, 61.3 man-day Vehicle Life Support System (Short Duration, Limited) Cargo: 0.68-m^3 Cargo Trunk 6.6-lbs/cf
Armor F RL B T U
Body 5/2,775 4/1,850 4/1,850 4/1,850 4/1,850
ADS Turret (T) 5/2,550 5/2,550 5/2,550 4/1,700 0/0
RWS Mount (T) 4/1,850 4/1,850 4/1,850 4/1,850 0/0
Sensor Turret (T) 4/1,850 4/1,850 4/1,850 4/1,850 4/1,850
Wheels 4/1,850 4/1,850 4/1,850 4/1,850 0/0
Weaponry Malf Type Damage SS Acc 1/2D m Max m RoF TL
15.5mm API 15.5HMG-0300H/15.5API-0320B - Cr 6dx14(2) - 20 14,000 43,000 - 12
15.5mm AP 15.5HMG-0300H/15.5AP-0320B - Cr 6dx14(2) - 20 14,000 43,000 - 12
15.5mm solid 15.5HMG-0300H/15.5Ball-0320B - Cr 6dx14 - 20 14,000 43,000 - 12
SolForce 500MW UV Pulse Laser Anti-Missile System Model 0260 Ausf. N (UVPLAMS/500MW-0260N) Ver. (Crit.) Imp. 8d+1 20 22 6,401 12,802 20 12
SolForce Small Arms Electrothermal Chemical, Heavy Machine Gun - 15.5mm Model 300 Ausf. H (SAETC/15.5HMG-0300H) Ver. Cr. 6dx14 20 20 13,716 42,977 20 12
Equipment
Body: two short range SolForce Combat Network RadioSets (500-mile range; VLF, ELF, scrambler); two medium range SolForce Medium Range RadioSets (5,000-mile range; sensitive, cellular, VLF, scrambler, direction finder); two medium range SolForce Medium-Range LaserComms (10,000-mile range; very sensitive, cellular, scrambler); mainframe Light Vehicle Communications Computer (complexity 10; dedicated, genius, hardened, very high capacity, neural net, supercompact); mainframe Light Vehicle Electronic Warfare Computer (complexity 10; dedicated, genius, hardened, very high capacity, neural net, supercompact); mainframe Light Vehicle Fire Control Computer (complexity 10; dedicated, genius, hardened, very high capacity, neural net, supercompact); mainframe Light Vehicle Main Computer (complexity 10; genius, hardened, very high capacity, neural net, supercompact); mainframe Light Vehicle Navigation Computer (complexity 10; dedicated, genius, hardened, very high capacity, neural net, supercompact); mainframe Light Vehicle Sensors Computer (complexity 10; dedicated, genius, hardened, very high capacity, neural net, supercompact); 750,000-gig Computer Hard Drive (hardened); seven 75,000-gig Database Hard Drives (hardened); four ADS Gunnery Programs-50 (C42); Camera Database; Communications Database; two Computer Navigation Programs (C2); four Database Recovery Programs (C2); Electronic Warfare Database; Encryption Database; two Encryption Programs (C20); Navigation Database; +50 RWS Targeting Program (C49); Sensor Database; nine StarWarrior Mk10 Datalinks (C1); Warbook Database; four IR Jammers (0.45-mile range, jammer rating 3); four Proximity Fuse Jammers; four advanced Sensor Detection Systems; Wide Area Jammer (1.5-mile range, jammer rating 4); two military GPSs; two IFFs; Adaptive Camouflage (-2 spotting modifier); E-WEB (emDR 600); Hitch; basic IR Stealth (-8 spotting modifier); Mimetic Camouflage (-10 spotting modifier); Radiation Shielding (1,000,000 PF); basic Sensor Stealth (-8 spotting modifier); improved Sound Baffling (-12 hearing modifier); Spall Liner; Sealing; Self-Sealing Hull; Waterproofing. ADS Turret (T): 0.125MJ SolForce 500MW UV Pulse Laser Anti-Missile System Model 0260 Ausf. N (UVPLAMS/500MW-0260N) (F, extreme; pulse); ADS Universal Mount. RWS Mount (T): 1,000 rounds 15.5mm API 15.5HMG-0300H/15.5API-0320B; 2,000 rounds 15.5mm AP 15.5HMG-0300H/15.5AP-0320B; 2,000 rounds 15.5mm solid 15.5HMG-0300H/15.5Ball-0320B; SolForce Small Arms Electrothermal Chemical, Heavy Machine Gun - 15.5mm Model 300 Ausf. H (SAETC/15.5HMG-0300H) (F); RWS Universal Mount; Main Armament Stabilizer; Backup RWS LIDAR (T, scan 19, 26.9-mile range; high-res imaging, multimode, LPI); RWS AESA (T, scan 19, 26.9-mile range; LPI); two HMG LLTVs (F, magnification x53.8); two RWS Thermographs (F, scan 21, 53.8-mile range); RWS PESA (T, scan 21, 53.8-mile range); four HUDWACs (pupil scanner, near miss indicator); Laser Designator (10.6-mile range); HMG Laser Rangefinder (26.9-mile range). Sensor Turret (T): IR Searchlight (F, 80-mile range); two Searchlights (F, 80-mile range); Advanced Radiation Detector; Backup Search LIDAR (T, scan 22, 80-mile range; low-res imaging, multimode, LPI); three Multiscanners (scan 9, 0.5-mile range); Primary Search AESA (T, scan 22, 80-mile range; LPI); two Digital Vehicle Cameras (infrared, low-light); four Light Amplification Sensors (F); two Long Range Search LLTVs (F, magnification x160); two Medium Range Search LLTVs (F, magnification x80); four Search Thermographs (F, scan 24, 160-mile range); Search PESA (T, scan 24, 160-mile range).
Statistics
Size: [LxWxH] 6 m x3 m x3.08 m Payload: 4,878 kg Lwt.: 26,003 kg
Volume: 55.4 m^3 Maint.: 0 hours (1,380,684 mh/day) Price: MCr82,738,250,690
HT: 12 HP: 2,400 [Body], 120 each [4xADS Turret (T)], 150 [RWS Mount (T)], 300 each [4xSensor Turret (T)], 300 each [4xWheels].
Amphibious Performance: Drag 297, Top Speed 30.6 kph, wAccel 4.83 kph/s, wMR 0.75, wSR 7, wDecel (powered) 16.1 kph/s, ( 11.7 mph/s), Draft 0.823 m, Flotation 63,484 lbs.
Wheel Ground Performance: Speed Factor 18, Top Speed 193 kph, gAccel 8.05 kph/s, gDecel 32.2 kph/s, gMR 1.5, gSR 5, Ground Pressure 4,729 lbs./sf, Off Road Speed 48.3 kph.
Design Notes:
TL12 medium frame standard materials [RWS Mount].
TL12 heavy frame advanced materials [Vehicle].
TL12 medium frame advanced materials [Wheels].
TL12 DR 1,400 advanced ablative; Barrier Armor Rating (Light Combat Vehicle, Laminate): TL12 DR 300 [4xADS Turret].
TL12 DR 1,400 advanced ablative; Barrier Armor Rating (Light Combat Vehicle, Laminate): TL12 DR 450 [RWS Mount].
TL12 DR 1,400 advanced ablative; Barrier Armor Rating (Light Combat Vehicle, Laminate): TL12 DR 450 [Vehicle].
T TL12 DR 1,400 advanced ablative, U TL12 DR 0 advanced ablative, L TL12 DR 1,400 advanced ablative, R TL12 DR 1,400 advanced ablative, F TL12 DR 1,400 advanced ablative, B TL12 DR 1,400 advanced ablative; Barrier Armor Rating (Light Combat Vehicle, Laminate): T TL12 DR 450, U TL12 DR 0, L TL12 DR 450, R TL12 DR 450, F TL12 DR 450, B TL12 DR 450 [Wheels].
Payload Cost: MCr0.086
Vehicle Features: computerized controls, no streamlining.
Body: flotation hull, mediocre lines, 30° Front Slope.
Wheels: quantity 4, non-standard sizex2, off-road, all wheel drive, improved suspension, improved brakes, all wheel steering, smart, snow tires, puncture resistant.
ADS Turret: full rotation, 30° Slope on all Faces.
RWS Mount: full rotation.
Sensor Turret: full rotation.
Volume: 31.5 m^3 [Body], 0.477 m^3 [4xADS Turret (T)], 1.53 m^3 [RWS Mount (T)], 1.95 m^3 [4xSensor Turret (T)], 12.6 m^3 [Wheels].
Area: 74.3 m^2 [Body], 3.72 m^2 [4xADS Turret (T)], 9.29 m^2 [RWS Mount (T)], 9.29 m^2 [4xSensor Turret (T)], 37.2 m^2 [Wheels].
Wheel Ground Performance:;
Makes sense they'd break up the state, a lot of power there when it's whole.
Navarro
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Cali was split up pre-War.
Navarro
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Post-War as in post-nuclear.