Fallout The Eagle And The Bear [Fallout AU]

Navarro

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Taking a wild guess it's the radioactive remains of the more urbanized western Russian regions.

Yep, nuked, chemically-poisoned, a few Soviet biowar projects got released in the post-nuclear chaos (say hi, Ebolapox!) and a couple of Chernobyls took place in the ageing, unstable fission reactors that supplied much of the USSR's power. Think Metro in many areas west of the Urals, with city-states and farming villages here and there. With more Tesla guns and occasional warlords with Soviet-era mechs around, fuelled by uranium rods scavenged at great risk from the ruins of the nuclear plants.

I wonder what the average American knows about California? Just standard propaganda about rebels or maybe something more detailed?

Generally, the common man on the ground has an idea of rebels lurking out beyond the Rocky Mountains committed to the destruction of the US Government. They would be able to recognise the NCR flag, know that they have an actual government, and so on. In that regard it's similar to if the ACW never ended formally but simply simmered down into a sort of lukewarm war, with the Union never recognising the independence or legitimacy of the CSA in any way and spending decades preparing for the next great campaign to bring down the rebels. Or how the Korean War has never really ended, though without the formal ceasefire.

Technically speaking the NCR was the first fully-formed American successor state to crawl out of the ashes and that has to be of at least academic interest.

Indeed! The more educated people in E-US who know more than the simplistic slogans actually don't have that much disdain for the NCR's actual founders, Aradesh and Seth and so on. It's Tandi and her successors who get the majority of their hatred.

Do the Minutemen and the Commonwealth Provisional Government get any credit in Massachusetts or are they papered over too?

The Minutemen ... they're a celebrated Mass. National Guard regiment and have a museum of their own dedicated to their history including their fighting of the good fight before Federal forces came in. As for the CPG ... it's a point of historical trivia, but that's more due to the fact that it was never really a substantial thing and died in embryo more than anything else.

There were a bunch of other proto-nations, city-state leagues and the like, on the Eastern seaboard and environs, but due to the delayed process of state formation on the East Coast (as shown in FO3 and FO4) they were too weak to avoid absorption into the nucleating E-USA by hook or by crook. Ronto and the E-BOS were E-USA's strongest rivals when the project was just getting started.
 
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ForeverShogo

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Since the genocide stuff got buried and any actual evidence would have been vaporized by the nuking . . . That 70/30 thing for Richardson might have been something along the lines of him doing an okay job but not doing enough to get the reclamation effort going.

Or maybe just that he is being somewhat blamed for what the Chosen One was able to pull off. At least in the sense that people might say he allowed the Enclave to grow complacent and Eden, then Autumn, had to scramble to save the Enclave and thus America.
 

AspblastUSA

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Yeah, even if the Enclave was actually minding it's own business during the events of FO2 you're not exactly likely to be remembered as a great president if the US's center of power and one of it's largest settlements (which you happen to be on at the time, too) happens to be destroyed by nuclear terrorism.

That kind of thing doesn't exactly paint your competence in a good light.
 

novussa

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Yep, nuked, chemically-poisoned, a few Soviet biowar projects got released in the post-nuclear chaos (say hi, Ebolapox!) and a couple of Chernobyls took place in the ageing, unstable fission reactors that supplied much of the USSR's power. Think Metro in many areas west of the Urals, with city-states and farming villages here and there. With more Tesla guns and occasional warlords with Soviet-era mechs around, fuelled by uranium rods scavenged at great risk from the ruins of the nuclear plants.



Generally, the common man on the ground has an idea of rebels lurking out beyond the Rocky Mountains committed to the destruction of the US Government. They would be able to recognise the NCR flag, know that they have an actual government, and so on. In that regard it's similar to if the ACW never ended formally but simply simmered down into a sort of lukewarm war, with the Union never recognising the independence or legitimacy of the CSA in any way and spending decades preparing for the next great campaign to bring the South to heal. Or how the Korean War has never really ended, though without the formal ceasefire.



Indeed! The more educated people in E-US who know more than the simplistic slogans actually don't have that much disdain for the NCR's actual founders, Aradesh and Seth and so on. It's Tandi and her successors who get the majority of their hatred.



The Minutemen ... they're a celebrated Mass. National Guard regiment and have a museum of their own dedicated to their history including their fighting of the good fight before Federal forces came in. As for the CPG ... it's a point of historical trivia, but that's more due to the fact that it was never really a substantial thing and died in embryo more than anything else.

There were a bunch of other proto-nations, city-state leagues and the like, on the Eastern seaboard and environs, but due to the delayed process of state formation on the East Coast (as shown in FO3 and FO4) they were too weak to avoid absorption into the nucleating E-USA by hook or by crook. Ronto and the E-BOS were E-USA's strongest rivals when the project was just getting started.
So you are saying that premier has escaped to the one place that has not been corrupted by captalism……………. SPACE!
 
Zetan Stuff

Navarro

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Just a leeetle sideshow right now as I work through my writers' block:

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REPORT TO THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES ON THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL THREAT
FROM: General James Reed, USAF Orbital Command
To: Senator Manuel Silva (F-CUB), Senator Edwin Ruppelt (L-NY)
DATE: 11/19/30
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: We rebuild our past to secure our future.
CLASSIFIED: Secret

Over the past decade, five hostile extraterrestrial craft have entered United States airspace. All were successfully shot down. Two have entered over rebel-held airspace, one of which was also shot down over California - the other successfully returned to orbit and is presumed to have successfully completed its mission. Of the five enemy spacecraft we have intercepted, USAF special forces teams successfully secured the crash sites and recovered xenoform bodies, identical to the corpses later designated "Zetan" first found in 1947. One injured xenoform was captured and taken to be subjected to certain enhanced interrogation procedures by uniquely-talented personnel working in the CIA Special Interrogation Division, but it regrettably died en route to the Panopticon building. Certain pieces of xenotechnology were recovered, but nothing significantly beyond that uncovered in the 2278 incident involving Colonel Walker. They seem to have stagnated or plateaued in technological advancement long ago. The craft have been sent to USAF facilities for storage pending further study.

This does represent a slightly concerning significant uptick in ET activity over the decade before, but calculations of the enemy craft's inbound flight trajectories continue to put the enemy "mothership" in a joveostationary orbit, as was last projected. The craft also contained a noted lack of teleport equipment, suggesting they genuinely fear that we could use it to attack their craft from inside (they don't know of course, that we already possess a teleport beacon of theirs from the 2278 incident). We need not fear an alien attack from orbit for the moment, but if they would do so with orbital defense in the abysmal state it currently is, they could easily ruin us if we couldn't get a strike team on board in time.

I have to admit that I am concerned about the cancellation of the "Skysword" orbital interceptor project, though I can see the reason why. With the current situation in Texas threatening to lead into a state of active combat between the rebel power and our own, the enemy to the west is a threat far more compelling than the enemy above. Still, I hope with our coming quick victory over the Californian rebels we will be able to resume the project by 2332.

Yours faithfully.
 

Navarro

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Modern map: I can't quite see, but does Germany hold Elsaß-Lothringen? It does belong to her...

1914 borders plus German parts of A-H, Luxemburg, Lichtenstein and a chunk of Switzerland.


Chapter 24: Praise be to the battleships, may carriers falter before their guns! Even US carriers.

Well, USS Richardson wasn't taken out by shellfire but NCR fighters deploying torpedoes and a structural weakness left over from the renovation. Generally the role of laser AA in this fic is to make airpower and long-range cruise missile fire less be-all end-all and make the operational calculus a bit more like WW2.
 

Navarro

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Basically I've put it so most laser weapons cause severe internal wounds from vaporisation of the body's water content and nasty burns where they penetrate the skin. Gatling lasers just blow right through you - heavy gatling lasers (the ones with charging barrels) make people explode in a rain of flaming chunks.

BTW, this is the picture Atomic Rockets uses to depict what the effect of a pulsed laser weapon (which are the sort that would really be practical, and hence what I've decided FOverse uses) on flesh would be like:

 

The Whispering Monk

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Make sure you keep moving. That way you just get the upper layer of flesh removed and not suffer terminal excavation.

Just made that up...but it seems appropriate.
 

Navarro

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I mean, the laser pulses are microseconds apart - to the naked eye it looks like a continuous beam - so you'd have to be preeetty fast.
 

SuperHeavy

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BTW, this is the picture Atomic Rockets uses to depict what the effect of a pulsed laser weapon (which are the sort that would really be practical, and hence what I've decided FOverse uses) on flesh would be like:

Remember kids if your laser gun is powerful enough to kill people, it is powerful enough to vaporize their internal fluids. On living targets lasers are not clean weapons.
 
Information: ACA-4 Advanced Combat Armor

Navarro

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An ACA-4 suit, woodland camo scheme. Noticeably devoid of the pouches and combat webbing commonly worn by soldiers actually using said armour in combat.

The ACA-4 Advanced Combat Armor suit represents the latest and greatest combat armour system used by the forces of the United States military. It takes its name as the fourth iteration of advanced battlefield protective systems developed since the mid-20th century. The first - the ACA-1 - was essentially a reinforced variant of standard-issue combat armour, eventually replaced in 2068 with the ACA-2, a protective system that later saw use with riot squads and SWAT teams across the country. The Marine Corps - not the Army - developed the ACA-3 in 2073, which was considered an equivalent to T-45 power armour in protection.

The ACA-4, the distant heir to all these armour systems, began development in 2291 under President Augustus Autumn, seeking to rectify the situation many American troops faced. Although the Army, Marine Corps' and Secret Service's infantry all used power armour, the National Guard was forced to make do with scavenged or reproduced variants of all three armour sets, creating a confusing and inefficient supply situation. In addition, certain incidents in the Ronto War made clear that unpowered support or non-infantry troops had insufficient protection when enemy forces made contact with them. Finally, special forces units argued that power armour was not well-suited to their usual repertoire of missions.

Therefore, for all these reasons, the ACA-4 was developed for over a decade, full-scale production beginning in 2305. The suit is a common sight not only in the National Guard, but also in the US Army and USMC - commonly worn by tankers, artillerymen, and other combat troops not in PA - and in various US special forces units.

The ACA-4's most basic component is a dark full-body undersuit identical to a standard-issue PA undersuit. It incorporates a ballistic vest and thermal-dissipative membranes to give some protection against laser fire and bullets. Following that, the armour pieces are attached via a system of internal straps. They are made of duraframe-ceramic composite, similar to American power armour, and also laserproofed with a 10-micron silver ablative coating. The helmet contains an air filtering system capable of defeating the vast majority of NBC hazards, but no rebreather; an internal radio for battlefield communication; a targeting and laser sighting system; and a thermal vision system for night-fighting. Its eyepieces are proof against most bullets and also protect the wearer from blindness that may be caused by energy weapons or explosive flashes. The armour suit also incorporates a wrist-mounted vital signs monitor and (within the chestplate) a system capable of automatically injecting combat chems such as stim-paks, RadShield, and Med-X. These systems get their power from an MFC mounted in the back of the chestplate, which needs to be replaced over an average period of one month.

The ACA-4 comes in all camo schemes used by the US Armed Forces - Woodland, Desert, Winter, Urban and Tropical - and serves as a worthy successor to the combat armour suits of the 21st century.
 
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Moar Uniforms #2

Navarro

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All camouflage patterns in use by the US Armed Forces, modelled by the standard-issue field uniform worn by specialists and officers up to OF-4 not directly engaged in combat operations.

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New NCR combat equipment, now seeing its first use in Texas as of early 2332. The low RoF of the AER9 previously used has been recognised as a critical deficit, leading to its replacement by the Laser RCW (incorporating insights found from recovered AER14 laser rifles to lend additional firepower). In addition, the Ranger helmet is now used by regular soldiers, lending full-spectrum NBC protection against Enclave chemical weapons, including contact nerve toxins.

 
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Navarro

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Ch. 26 officially begun. Also, redid the E-US small arms to fix some issues that I realised had cropped up later on:

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Actually ... scale is all borked. Was using too big ref images. Will have to redo in either a larger or smaller scale. Ugh.
 

Navarro

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Ch. 26 snippets!

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18:00 AST, February 12 2332
Off The Coast of Guiana


The submarine NCS Chief Hanlon was a cramped vessel at the best of times. Off the coast of Gan Colombia, near what had once been named Guiana on pre-War maps, thousands of miles away from the NCR and her home port of Dayglow, Captain Jack Jeffries could not hide his discomfort. The subs were so far away from home that if they were in the Pacific they would be out past the NCR’s westernmost outpost on Hawaii, half-way or more to Australia. The salient-green packed rations – tasteless but nutritious – gave them 120 days of rations, which marked sufficient time to raid for a hundred days, then resupply and put on more torpedoes and food at the Altagracia Naval Station.

The facility lacked true submarine pens, but sufficient facilities to take on fresh supply. In addition, the Ranger Seth-class submarines had a triple-stealth configuration – radar stealth through their angular shapes, sonar stealth through the materials of their hulls, and last but certainly not least visual stealth through large-scale photonic distortion generators which bent light around the craft.

Jeffries kept an eye out for contacts as his crew looked them over. Every vessel sailing towards Enclave waters had been marked out by Naval Command as a potential target, save for those carrying the flags of Gran Colombia, France or Nueva-Maya. If they weren’t funnelling troops toward the Enclave they were funnelling resources and civilian workers. They would not be able to stop every ship, he knew – but every ship that didn’t reach their waters was one less that would be of use to them.

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10:00 EST, February 15 2332

Chesapeake Bay


Three ships of war sailed into Chesapeake Bay under the frosty sun in stately procession, two smaller ships flanking a great battleship almost twice their length. Their escort was a matter of pomp and circumstance more than real military concern – it would not do for them to come in on their own, ignored. So it was that USS New England, second only to the flagship of the American navy USS Columbia, had come in to escort the heavy cruisers HMS Kent and SMS Von Mackensen into the harbour of Norfolk Naval Station. Crown Prince Friedrich August Von Hohenzollern, heir to a dynasty more than a thousand years old and an Empire less than a century, looked at the fog-covered waters of the port from his transport ship’s bridge as he entered it. The sky was overcast, but he could plainly see a number of ships in harbour – a few civilian vessels, fishers and cargo ships mainly. Then the small flotilla took a hard left, and Friedrich saw the Atlantic Fleet in port.

There were three battleships – not counting USS Columbia, twelve cruisers, thirty destroyers, and one carrier (the other, he had heard, was seconded to the Caribbean Fleet). The ships went on through the harbour, and Friedrich had a feeling he knew what this was about. The Americans wanted to show off their fleet to him as he entered, to let him know in no uncertain terms who was fundamentally in charge here. Even knowing their goals, he couldn’t help but be overawed. The Royal and Imperial Navies couldn’t build ships three-quarters as large, and certainly not in such numbers.

He wondered what Maudling must be feeling. Now they moved on to ships under construction, teams of men with some robotic assistance welding them painstakingly together with brilliantly bright plasma torches that resembled – tellingly enough – some old plasma rifles he’d been shown as part of the military curriculum he’d studied at West Point. He read the names written on the new carriers – about 400 metres long, greater than the ones currently in service; CVN-120 Augustus Autumn, CVN-121 Ronald Reagan. Then on the battleships; Canada, Heartland, Ontario, Nova Scotia, Hawaii, New Mexico. The ship turned to head to an unoccupied pier – he estimated there were six cruisers and twice that number of destroyers under various stages of construction in drydock,

The ship halted at one of the unoccupied piers and Friedrich walked out, a touch unsteadily – his sea legs still weren’t good – followed by two single-file columns of Imperial Army Seetruppen in their stone-grey parade dress, carrying their weapons – laser rifles of the European Commonwealth, designated the Strahlgewehr-101 in the Imperial arsenal. They fired in the orange spectrum, powered by hydrogen-fuel energy cells – less charge than American microfusion, but practicable for German industry to produce.

The British Army troops guarding Maudling, to his left, looked askance at their German counterparts – the conflicts of centuries past were not wholly forgotten.



General Maguire had all but won this battle. The Enclave’s bases in San Antonio had been overrun – the Texans were holding up his flanks well, and NCR troops were on the outskirts of Austin. Now the city centre yet remained, and the enemy remnants in their area were using as their command post the same location they had during the insurgency and the Texan Civil War. The Alamo, legendary location of a valiant last stand during the Texan Revolution some years ago, then turned into a thorn in the NCR and the loyalist Texan forces’ side.

Like Santa Anna in days long gone by, he could not afford yet another lengthy siege. Speed was of the essence – he needed to maximise his advantage and his opportunity, strike when the iron was hot. Local sensibilities be damned, he thought to himself. The NCR has to do this. He took up his pip-boy from his belt and gave the appropriate orders to various of the air attack squadrons and artillery batteries under his command.

They roared thunder from an unforgiving sky. Rockets and explosive shells rained down once more on the historic park, scything down what plants had grown since the earlier bombardments of the last year and the chill of winter. Buzzard attack craft joined the chorus of destruction, raining down ground-attack rockets and explosive bullets from heavy machine-guns. The Alamo – the old mission building used as a fort multiple times in its long history, now the centre of Enclave efforts to converge and command a counter-attack – took the brunt of it. By the end of fifteen minutes of relentless bombardment, no stone stood on another. Where the building had been was only a mass of craters, the very structure of the ground deformed by the explosive forces unleashed.

The last remnants of the Enclave garrison retreated from the city of San Antonio by 11:30 AM February 19th 2332.
 

Crow gotta eat

That peckish, patriotic, Protestant passerine.
Like Santa Anna in days long gone by, he could not afford yet another lengthy siege. Speed was of the essence – he needed to maximise his advantage and his opportunity, strike when the iron was hot. Local sensibilities be damned, he thought to himself. The NCR has to do this. He took up his pip-boy from his belt and gave the appropriate orders to various of the air attack squadrons and artillery batteries under his command.
That is... hoo boy. Now the E-USA can start shouting remember the Alamo now and the E-USA aligned Texans are going to be even more incensed against the NCR, the neutral Texans are going to have shift towards the E-USA and the Independence faction of Texans who already had their leaders give up a portion of their land to the NCR are probably going to take a morale hit as they look even more like they are nothing but puppets to the NCR.

And once again a piece of history is lost.
I'm amazed ANY Texan force went along with bombing the Alamo that way.
That's the thing, it seems like it was just the NCR artillery and air force which flattened it to the earth, not the Texans, who are probably caught between various states of emotions of being glad the battle is over to being horrified that they lost a significant historical piece that is central to their cultural identity, with the latter feeling probably winning out overall after enough time has sunk in. Unless they were US or neutral aligned, in which case they were just horrified.
 

SuperHeavy

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The facility lacked true submarine pens, but sufficient facilities to take on fresh supply. In addition, the Ranger Seth-class submarines had a triple-stealth configuration – radar stealth through their angular shapes, sonar stealth through the materials of their hulls, and last but certainly not least visual stealth through large-scale photonic distortion generators which bent light around the craft.
This brought to mind a funny scenario wherein the NCR's advanced stealth systems and the US's same, bolstered by the recovery of the USS Democracy, are good enough that both sub fleets are stuck running around trying to detect the other the entire war. Other than that it looks like the US navy has not been slouching on procurement and I imagine should fairly outmatch the NCR navy barring some particularly inept commanders or seriously bad luck. I am sorry if this a repeat question but @Navarro has the Panama or equivalent canal be reactivated?
 

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