Texas Border Invasion Standoff

[S'task]

I'm very, very surprised that things worked out the way they did.

What I'm hoping that this proves as a lynchpin moving forward, as Abbot proved two things simultaneously;

- States can tell SCOTUS to fuck off with little repurcussion. (So far.)

- Biden is weak when it comes time to actually enforce his decisions or follow up on his threats. (So far.)

What I'm hoping moving forward is that this kicks off a preference cascade of States basically going 'lolno' when Biden(or SCOTUS) tells them to do stuff.

I would love to have been a fly on that wall when Biden's handlers discussed all this. I'd also love to know the ratio between the handlers frothing at the mouth that Abbot wasn't respecting thier authority and those despretely trying to dial all this shit back due to the risk of how it could escalate.

Except the SCOTUS didn't tell Texas to do anything, that's been a media lie the entire time. All they said was that Texas couldn't prevent the Border Patrol from taking down razor wire on Federal land (no shit), but did not prohibit Texas from putting razor wire back up. Border Patrol basically went "we have no intention of tearing down the wire" when Biden basically demanded they do so, and a huge chunk of the US basically told the Biden administration that "Texas has every right to defend its border when you fail to do so".

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

No.

I didn't fight to keep this country safe only to see it break apart. It's all I'll say on that.

I hate leftists, I dont want them in my foster country anymore. I want the entire democratic party membership roster disenfranchised and enduring generational attainder

I no longer am capable of feeling empathy for those left of center. I want them scourged and humiliated and utterly dispossessed.

I do not consider leftists human any more, such is the measure of my hatred. And despite that the idea of balkanization is utterly repellant to me.

the above can be achieved through legal reform and constitutional amendments and cultural reform . You don't have to break a nation into smaller, weaker powers to fix it or even achieve extreme goals.

Abeyance of the law and working within the system still works. Governor Abbot and Attorney General Paxton are proving that right now.

Talking of civil war is insane at the moment, things would have to go Allende in Chile levels bonkers for naked force outside the law to even be considered an option and as bad as shit is right now it ain't that bad.

The US still has time to right this course passively and legally - all efforts for the present should be focused on that.

 

[TheRomanSlayer]

I hate leftists, I dint want them in my goster country anymore. I want the entire democratic party membership roster disenfranchised and enduring generational attainder

I no longer am capable of feeling empathy for those left of center. I want them scourged and humiliated and utterly dispossessed.

I do not consider leftists human any more, such is the measure of my hatred. And despite that the idea of balkanization is utterly repellant to me.

thw above can be achieved through legal reform and constitutional amendments and cultural reform . You don't have to break a nation into smaller, weaker powers to fix it or even achieve extreme goals.

Abeyance of the law and working within the system still works. Governor Abbot and Attorney General Paxton are proving that right now.

Talking of civil war is insane at the moment, things would have to go Allende in Chile levels bonkers for naked force outside the law to even be considered an option and as bad as shit is right now it ain't that bad.

The US still has time to right this course passively and legally - all efforts for the present should be focused on that.

Leftists are also the new untermenschen. We need a new Final Solution to deal with them.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

The federalization of national guard units though have to be for a reason and it has to be a valid reason in a way the state allows it.
Because every single Guardsmen serves the governor not the president.

And all troops serve the constitution

Consider the federalization of the National Guard during the stand-off over school desegregation. The President federalized the Guard and ordered it to stand down and go home.

 

[Abhorsen]

I mean, seriously. Look at the insane crap that's been happening, and understand, the loonies are at the edge of running the asylum. The managers started them up, and are now finding the reason why everybody else wasn't arrogant enough to try this. That's because once the loonies get going, they're really hard to stop.

See, I don't think that this group is hard to stop. Now usually, yes, a riled up group is hard to stop, totally agree. But the group in question is riled because of of others not obeying authority. What annoys them so much is people standing up against government. This meme makes the group riled up by the managerial class very subservient and very useful. So I think in any split, that the managerial class will come down in full control of the government side.

When MAD worked for the USSR, who were far crazier, I think it will work for the progressive Dems.

Consider the federalization of the National Guard during the stand-off over school desegregation. The President federalized the Guard and ordered it to stand down and go home.

That used the insurrection act. That's basically further political suicide if used like that.

 

[Abhorsen]

Leftists are also the new untermenschen. We need a new Final Solution to deal with them.

Okay, this should be obvious, but this is a big no-no. This is a direct hit from both Rule 1a genocide advocacy and worse, TOS 3.M Support for Hitlerism/Holocaust. Right now, you are getting a month forum wide ban, only because we don't know if pro-NSDAP posts are common with you, or if this is a weird one off because maybe you are drunk or something. We are going to go look at your past posts and determine if this is a pattern we missed, and if it is, it will be escalated to a Perma ban.

EDIT: No pro-NSDAP posts were found, this appears to be a one off. The one month ban stands, but it won't become a perma.

 

[Zachowon]

Consider the federalization of the National Guard during the stand-off over school desegregation. The President federalized the Guard and ordered it to stand down and go home.

As Abhorsen said.
That was due to the insurrection act, which also allowed for the deployment of federal troops.
That situation is diffrent due to the fact it was the president enforcing the laws in which congress and SCOTUS inacted. Not him threatening Arkansas because he wasn't doing his job

 

[Cherico]

Some would say Deliberately engineered to collapse our current systems and replace it with a digital currency controlled by the WEF.

yeah that's not going to happen.

Once stuff starts collapsing big time organizations like that either get side lined hard or they become scape goats to be given over to the mob. And if you say that goverments of the world owe the WEF a lot of money....like I said mass defaults so that becomes money thats functionally just gone forever.

 

[Jormungandr]

Well, that was a "what the fuck?" moment.

I have as much distaste for Leftists as anyone else who has more than two brain cells, but that was just... what the fuck, bro?

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Leftists are also the new untermenschen. We need a new Final Solution to deal with them.

Yeah, I don't want the Fuckers dead dude.

 

[DarthOne]

Yeah, I don't want the Fucker's dead dude.

A lot of them want us dead however. Just saying.

 

[Rocinante]

Yeah, I don't want the Fucker's dead dude.

Fedposters gonna fedpost

 

[DarthOne]

Fedposters gonna fedpost

Oh please.

We are nowhere large enough or important enough for the Feds to send bother sending anyone over to Fedpost here. I seriously doubt they even know we exist in the first place.

Also, the Feds are nowhere as powerful or influential as we think they are.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

A lot of them want us dead however. Just saying.

Given that most proggy “foot soldiers” would probably balk when it comes to the crunch…it’s not even most of them.

 

[TheRejectionist]

I am surprised by two factors of what's happening : first that 25 states sided with Abbott (26 in total if we include Texas) and second that the issue is being talked IN BRAZIL and ITALY.

 

[Abhorsen]

A lot of them want us dead however. Just saying.

Us acting better than them is why we are better than them.

Oh please.

We are nowhere large enough or important enough for the Feds to send bother sending anyone over to Fedpost here. I seriously doubt they even know we exist in the first place.

Also, the Feds are nowhere as powerful or influential as we think they are.

Neither were the Weavers.


Anyway, back on topic instead of talking about FedPosting, if Biden had any brains, the solution for him is just to do nothing. Let Texas take control. If he can legalize the immigrants via exacutive fiat, he will. Maybe just a mass pardon last day in office.

 

[TheRejectionist]

Holy fucking shit I noticed now the post of RomanSlayer. I thought he was unhinged in some of his comments but I never saw something like that... yeah politicide doesn't sound good.

 

[Rocinante]

Oh please.

We are nowhere large enough or important enough for the Feds to send bother sending anyone over to Fedpost here. I seriously doubt they even know we exist in the first place.

Also, the Feds are nowhere as powerful or influential as we think they are.

1: it's a joke bro

2: fed posting is just a posting style. It doesn't mean they're a fed. They're just fed-posting. Aka posting shit a fed would post. This isn't the first time he's talked about exterminating an entire population either. So I will reiterate: fedposters gonna fedpost

3: we already have an active member who is a glowie, and if you don't think his commanders know about this place and encourage his presence here, I have a bridge to sell you...

 

[stephen the barbarian]

But the group in question is riled because of of others not obeying authority. What annoys them so much is people standing up against government. This meme makes the group riled up by the managerial class very subservient and very useful. So I think in any split, that the managerial class will come down in full control of the government side.

for a group that claims to be all for the common people rising up against their oppressors they sure scream bloody murder every time it happens.

 

[Cherico]

Yeah, I don't want the Fucker's dead dude.

I just want them to either stop fucking up or be removed from political power so their bad decisions don't affect the rest of us.

Ideally Id prefer a system of autonomy where communities can decide how they want to live but you know the left has to make everything about them always.