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[Bacle]

See now I totally buy that Pestage would know about it, for the simple fact that somebody would have to. Palpatine loved his intricate schemes too much for me to believe he'd leave the post-assassination trajectory of the Empire up to chance, and that means he'd need somebody acting as his proxy to make sure that nobody (coughVadercough) could stabilize things before the Reborn Emperor swooped in to do his dark messiah routine. Pestage had been acting as a loyal agent of the Sith since Plagueis was Master, and as far as I know never once waivered in his loyalty to Palpatine after he was originally swayed from Hego Damask's service.

Besides, Palpatine allowed him to handle much of the day to day running of the empire didn't he? Insofar as Palpatine could trust, I think he trusted Sate Pestage.

Would Vader or Pestage known of the Maw Cluster, or was that something Palp's and Tarkin kept to themselves.

Heck, did Palp even know about the Maw Cluster? If he knew of it, it seems kinda odd he never tried to contact Daala during the Dark Empire campaigns.

 

[AspblastUSA]

See now that I'm not sure I can answer with nearly as much confidence, having not done nearly enough of a deep dive on legends material to try and rationalize apparent inconsistencies like that with any thing approaching certainty. For what it's worth the Wook says that Tarkin and Daala at least believed Palpatine didn't know about the Maw Installation.

Hedging my bets, I'd say it could go either way believably. On the one had a number of rather important designs came out of the facility, including the World Devastators which points towards it being the sort of thing that Palpatine would keep a watch over. On the other hand, while the designs produced by the Maw Installation were important, it's infrastructure was decidedly less so: not very large, not very well armed, no real unique facilities or factories or mines. You could well make the argument that the Maw Installation specifically was lost in the presumably dizzying array of Imperial military research facilities, and that Palpatine may have known a lab put together all of his favorite toys, and might have even known it was called Maw, but not actually known where it was.

 

[Bacle]

That I buy; Palp probably trusted Tarkin enough that he didn't feel the need to dig to much into the nav logs or personnel files.

And so when Tarkin died, all his neat secret shit kinda went into the wind, if it wasn't lready being utilized in the Empire at large. It doesn't specify when the World Devastator designs made their way to Byss, so it's possible Tarkin developed that tech in parallel to the Death Star's construction, and at least proto-type plans made it to Byss before Yavin.

Also, I argue if the Sun Crusher and proto-type Death Star would have been valuable to the Reborn Emperor, even with the World Devastator's and Galaxy Gun around. They offer massive fire power at level just a bit below, and far above, what Palp's had at Byss.

 

[Zyobot]

 

[Bassoe]

 

[DarthOne]

What makes it all the funnier is that Obi Wan in Legends/Disney Wars would be mortified at the idea of getting ‘Rasputinized’.

 

[Captain X]

 

[Sailor.X]

Disney does not hate Star Wars. KK and the Lucas Film Story group hate the original creators of Star Wars. Youtube talking heads keep forgetting that.

Edit: For that Matter they also hate John and Dave because those 2 are trying to make Star Wars Great Again.

 

[Captain X]

Whose idea was the hipster squad then?

 

[Skallagrim]

Whose idea was the hipster squad then?

Some people just aren't psychologically ready to admit that the entire franchise is functionally over, because it's been bought by people who hate good ideas. They have to cling to the idea that "John and Dave" are going to save everything. Despite ample evidence that they've chosen the Disney pay-check, and now just do what management tells them to do.

It's basically the whole "nO ReaLly TheRe's a dIsNeY cIviL wAr, guYs!" conspiracy theory, but a bit more muted. Same idea, that there's some internal faction over at LucasFilm that's going to oust or side-track Kennedy and save SW.

 

[Sailor.X]

Whose idea was the hipster squad then?

Actually if you look into the lore. They very well could be kids that fled Corusaunt. In the last days of the Empire things on that planet got really really bad. So they headed for the outer rim. A lot of people did in the lore.

 

[Zyobot]

Real “niche” question here, but aside from Mace Windu and Palpatine, I’m not aware of anyone else who wields an electrum-plated lightsaber?

For one, since electrum’s a “special” decoration reserved for senior Jedi Council members, I assume there’ve been a handful of others who incorporated it into their hilts, though that doesn’t tell me who, specifically. (Although, yes, I’m sure there were other Sith besides just Sidious who ignored the rules, too.)

 

[Skallagrim]

Real “niche” question here, but aside from Mace Windu and Palpatine, I’m not aware of anyone else who wields an electrum-plated lightsaber?

For one, since electrum’s a “special” decoration reserved for senior Jedi Council members, I assume there’ve been a handful of others who incorporated it into their hilts, though that doesn’t tell me who, specifically. (Although, yes, I’m sure there were other Sith besides just Sidious who ignored the rules, too.)

There seem to be no sources on this.

Going by personality, this seems to be the sort of thing Jorus C'Baoth would do. So he might have been another Jedi Master who decided to actually make use of this sign of prestige.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Ok, what is electrum?

 

[DarthOne]

Ok, what is electrum?

Electrum was a rare metal once used in lightsaber construction as a sign of Forcemastery. This lightsaber modification was called an Electrum Detail or Electrum Detailing.[1] A purely cosmetic accessory, this feature was only allowed to high-ranking Jedi, an honor bestowed on Masters at their promotions, after having demonstrated their skill. It was a rarity among Force-users, both Jedi and Sith.

Mace Windu was known to have used an Electrum hilt for his lightsaber, as was Darth Sidious.[1] This Electrum detail gives the lightsaber hilt a distinctive gold color.

 

[Skallagrim]

It's pretentious frippery, is what it is.

If you're going to be all spectacular... get a cortosis-plated crossguard or something. That doesn't just effectively protect your hands from getting cut off, it also shorts out light-sabres if they hit it. That's cool and useful.

 

[Zyobot]

Ok, what is electrum?

In Canon, it's a type of crystal used for cosmetic finishes. In Legends, it's a rare and valued metal with a golden sheen used for much the same purpose. (Apparently, it exists in real life, too.)

There seem to be no sources on this.

Going by personality, this seems to be the sort of thing Jorus C'Baoth would do. So he might have been another Jedi Master who decided to actually make use of this sign of prestige.

Huh, interesting.

I know for sure that Mace has an electrum lightsaber, since it was confirmed in various guidebooks (and a visual dictionary or two) I read a while back. Otherwise, he and Sidious are the only ones explicitly said to have it in the lore, just as you've sad. (Separately, I also have some OCs of senior or "upper-crust" backgrounds in mind who wield electrum lightsabers as status symbols, though as in the official lore, those will be a rarity.)

Edit
Never mind, looks like @DarthOne ninja'd me before I could answer.

 

[Zyobot]

It's pretentious frippery, is what it is.

If you're going to be all spectacular... get a cortosis-plated crossguard or something. That doesn't just effectively protect your hands from getting cut off, it also shorts out light-sabres if they hit it. That's cool and useful.

Practically speaking, sure, but I certainly think electrum plating "looks nice". Still, not a bad idea, though if I were designing my own saber, I'd probably upgrade that to a cortosis (or phrik alloy) "bell guard" that protects the whole hand, with electrum (or aurodium) trim on the hilt for aesthetic appeal.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

It's pretentious frippery, is what it is.

Yeah, I mean... why would should the Jedi care? A Jedi Master is recognized by sheer reputation. Using gold-plating to announce them is yet another example how they have slowly become lesser.

 

[Earl]

Yeah, I mean... why would should the Jedi care? A Jedi Master is recognized by sheer reputation. Using gold-plating to announce them is yet another example how they have slowly become lesser.

In a way which is inconsistent with the Jedi Order during the Clone Wars era. Thats all about when they are retreating from the Galaxy, becoming isolated monks at the whim of the Senate, not big powerful boys who announce how big they are. Cbaoth is diffrent because he got made before the Prequels came in, but he works, so instead the Lightsaber only works to show how much of a idiot he is himself.