Star Wars Star Wars Discussion Thread - LET THE PAST D-! Oh, wait, nevermind

[Skallagrim]

In a way which is inconsistent with the Jedi Order during the Clone Wars era. Thats all about when they are retreating from the Galaxy, becoming isolated monks at the whim of the Senate, not big powerful boys who announce how big they are. Cbaoth is diffrent because he got made before the Prequels came in, but he works, so instead the Lightsaber only works to show how much of a idiot he is himself.

On the other hand, Dooku (and to some extent, Mace himself) do show that a sense of personal pride had begun to pervade the Order, too.

If we look at particulourly pious people looking down on others (the "holier than thou" attitude), we find that supposed piousness and an inflated sense of self-esteem aren't mutually exclusive. The impulses may, at times, even reinforce each other.

 

[Earl]

On the other hand, Dooku (and to some extent, Mace himself) do show that a sense of personal pride had begun to pervade the Order, too.

If we look at particulourly pious people looking down on others (the "holier than thou" attitude), we find that supposed piousness and an inflated sense of self-esteem aren't mutually exclusive. The impulses may, at times, even reinforce each other.

How dare you say Space Samuel Jackson dosent get to act like Samuel Jackson? What heresy is this?!

In all seriousness, though, fair cop and only fed into their downfall: the apperance of both Dooku and Mace made the “Oh no, it’s a Jedi coup” thing Palpatine was on a lot more believable to the plebs of the Galaxy.

 

[Zyobot]

 

[Typhonis]

Electrum is a naturally occurring alloy of gold and silver.

 

[Zyobot]

Electrum is a naturally occurring alloy of gold and silver.

In real life, yes. But in Star Wars, it varies by continuity.

Anyway:

 

[Skallagrim]

Anyway:

 

[Zyobot]

Speaking of which, how accurate would you say this is, @Skallagrim?

 

[Zyobot]

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Some people just aren't psychologically ready to admit that the entire franchise is functionally over, because it's been bought by people who hate good ideas. They have to cling to the idea that "John and Dave" are going to save everything. Despite ample evidence that they've chosen the Disney pay-check, and now just do what management tells them to do.

It's basically the whole "nO ReaLly TheRe's a dIsNeY cIviL wAr, guYs!" conspiracy theory, but a bit more muted. Same idea, that there's some internal faction over at LucasFilm that's going to oust or side-track Kennedy and save SW.

to be fair if we surrendered a part of our culture anytime those who don't like us made a move against us, we'd have nothing. those unironically going "Let the past die kill it if you have to (and embrace manga) tend to forget that if you let them take your past it will only be a matter of time before they go after your future (and your favorite manga). Disney may have bought the monetary rights to a franchise, but they don't get to dictate how we as people see a story. Fi diddle dee dee a fanficers life for me.

 

[Skallagrim]

to be fair if we surrendered a part of our culture anytime those who don't like us made a move against us, we'd have nothing. for those unironically going "Let the past die kill it if you have to (and embrace anime & independent art) tend to forget that if you let them take your past it will only be a matter of time before they go after your future (and your weeaboo franchises). Disney may have bought the monetary rights to a franchise, but they don't get to dictate how we as people see a story. Fi diddle dee dee a fanficers life for me.

Oh, absolutely. I just keep on liking and enjoying the things I already liked and enjoyed.

But I'm not going to make excuses for dreck, and especially not for dreck put out by people who hate me.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Oh, absolutely. I just keep on liking and enjoying the things I already liked and enjoyed.

But I'm not going to make excuses for dreck, and especially not for dreck put out by people who hate me.

that's fair. on the Brightside they've gone full hog on the multiverse (Even with Star Wars if Visions is anything to go by) so thanks Disney you've just inadvertently made every single Fanfic and Parody canon in it's own little bubble in the vast cosmos of the multiverse. Now we have even less of a reason to embrace your garbage.

 

[Captain X]

I'm surprised no one has posted this yet:

 

[AspblastUSA]

Ohey, it’s Isard doing the thing!

 

[Agent23]

Ohey, it’s Isard doing the thing!

They should not be able to do that on the surface of a planet!

 

[Skallagrim]

They should not be able to do that on the surface of a planet!

I assume you mean the jump to hyperspace? Yeah, that should be impossible -- you have to clear the gravity well first.

 

[ShadowsOfParadox]

They should not be able to do that on the surface of a planet!

I assume they are using the Disney Canon. Where that's obviously not a thing, since otherwise Starkiller Base would have had interdicter fields built in.

 

[AspblastUSA]

I thought Disney’s idea was that planetary shielding blocked hyperspacing in planetside unless you knew some specific details about the shield, which the resistance happened to thanks to Finn?

Honestly, it’s not a bad way to avoid the problem, even if it’s still contrived. For example it explains why Hoth, at least, went down how it did: the same shields keeping echo base from being leveled before anyone could evacuate also meant they had to break atmo to do it. It’s not perfect but it’s not quite ramming tier silly.

 

[Agent23]

I thought Disney’s idea was that planetary shielding blocked hyperspacing in planetside unless you knew some specific details about the shield, which the resistance happened to thanks to Finn?

Honestly, it’s not a bad way to avoid the problem, even if it’s still contrived. For example it explains why Hoth, at least, went down how it did: the same shields keeping echo base from being leveled before anyone could evacuate also meant they had to break atmo to do it. It’s not perfect but it’s not quite ramming tier silly.

Then why did the Falcon need to go into orbit at all, and didn't just jump to hyperspace in the hangar?
Same for the Nubian royal yacht and Dooku's solar sail ship?


Also, this is a silly fusion of old and new canon.

That hyperspace jump was the dumbest thing, period!
ANd it felt like it was kinda retconned later on.

 

[Zyobot]

Maybe it's more of an AH question, but I'm curious as to what the future of TCW might've been, had Disney never bought Star Wars? I know they had plans for future seasons that got scrapped, which—short of an abridged Season 7 that (supposedly) offered us a "proper" sendoff—were never truly realized, though what the actual execution might've look like is something else entirely.

 

[Bacle]

Maybe it's more of an AH question, but I'm curious as to what the future of TCW might've been, had Disney never bought Star Wars? I know they had plans for future seasons that got scrapped and—short of an abridged Season 7 that (supposedly) offered us a "proper" sendoff—were never truly realized, though what the actual execution of those ideas would look like is something else entirely.

Well, if TCW Season 7 had gone as originally planned, we would have gotten:
- Vong Scout arc, with Vong not being Force-blind/Force-transparent as in Legends, and kinda as another type of Force user.
- Ahsoka's Walkabout, which we did get but with a lot of reworking to change it from a male 'interest' of Ahsoka's to Raffi and Trace.
- Cyrstal Heist Arc, which would have gone to Utapau and involved a rather lot of comedy/hijinks
- Bounty Hunter Arc, where the orginal Fett vs Bane duel was supposed to happen.
- An arc about the old Sith temple/dark side nexus under the Jedi Temple being rediscovered by Ahsoka and others investigation weird happening at the Temple
- A final Ventress Arc, with her falling in love with Quinlan Vos and eventually sacrificing herself to save him, before being buried on Dathomir with the Jedi Council in attendance.