Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022
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Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
Not really surprised by that outcome, Seems like the MSM is going into overdrive to suppress it though.
Hearing rumor's Odessa is getting pounded with missile strikes, and the streams from there have frozen, so likely true.
edit: Seems to be confirmed.
Translation: "Anton Gerashchenko, Advisor to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, announced that the Ukrainian city of Odessa was bombed by Russian ships over the Black Sea. "
edit: Seems to be confirmed.
Translation: "Anton Gerashchenko, Advisor to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, announced that the Ukrainian city of Odessa was bombed by Russian ships over the Black Sea. "
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Ok, interesting. Will need to keep an eye on that stream.
Edit: Seems there are a lot fewer cams in Odessa, and most are in the same areas near the beach.
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TheRomanSlayer
Kayabangan, Dugo, at Dangal
The RCAF can't effectively enforce the no fly zone though, unless certain squadrons are posted in another NATO airbase, and even if they did try to enforce it, they only have approximately 70 something CF-18s.
A fourth General has apparently been killed during operations near the port city of Mariupol. Major General Oleg Mityaev. He seemed to have quite the stories career as well commanding a VDV brigade and serving as a Deputy Commander in Syria and a brigade commander earlier in the Donbass. He was apparently the commander of a Motorized Rifle Division during the Invasion.
Aaaand there we have it.
Fuck Ukraine. These guys were fucking idiots for showing up in the first place, but treating volunteers from other states as cannon fodder for your hopeless war is fucked in the head.
At least Porkchop lost some weight.
The Missile Strike on the Foreign Legion.
It's to take away cover. Hiding behind trees and shooting at people is how asymmetric warfare is done. It's a lot harder to do when there's no trees to hide behind. Also a certain amount of spite, I imagine.
Arlos
Sad Monarchist
I can’t see much to be honest, just a spot in the dark lighting up for a moment.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
We have seen how well that goes when enemy counters it with 7,62x54 and 30x165. Most of the Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria is treeless and yet asymmetric warfare flourished there for years. Unless something more concrete arrives the ''Putin going full Mameluke on Ukraine'' can be safely dismissed as similar forgery as Ghost of Kiev and Martyrs of Snake Island.
They may have had unrealistic expectation, but they're certainly a lot braver than most of the people on this board.
Even if Russia does win this war, and I think they will simply due to numbers, I honestly think it's going to be a massive Pyrrhic victory to the point of an actual strategic defeat.
There's going to be massive insurgencies all over the country, which is going to tie down Russia's forces and whatever patsies they put in power.
Ironically, that'd also mean that the breakaway 'states' and Crimea are going to be victim of this, too.
Russia has been made to bleed for this invasion in terms of resources, men, and equipment -- Much of that equipment, such as the more modern attack helicopters, cannot be easily if at all replaced. Hell, a lot of it is being abandoned and outright fucking stolen by Ukraine! If the inevitable insurgents get their hands on this stuff, Ukraine is going to be a second Afghanistan for the Russians.
Generals have been killed. Generals.
Public opinion in Russia is either for the war or against it, so there are massive social divides forming. Hell, a lot of Russians and Ukrainians are openly saying "why the fuck are we fighting?" -- including Russian troops!
Western companies, governments, and people have mostly turned against Russia completely -- Whatever "good imagery" they had in people's eyes is now gone. This stigma is going to last for decades.
This may mean Russia will have to turn to China -- Yeah, the Russians don't like or trust the Chinese either.
Russia's economy, already precarious, is hemorrhaging, and it's never been in the best shape to begin with!
The Russian oligarchs are losing money and influence. Putin may end up with a bullet in the back of the head one night if they all turn against him, which is becoming increasingly likely as time goes on.
Yeah, victory or not, it ain't gonna be good for Russia. smh
There's going to be massive insurgencies all over the country, which is going to tie down Russia's forces and whatever patsies they put in power.
Ironically, that'd also mean that the breakaway 'states' and Crimea are going to be victim of this, too.
Russia has been made to bleed for this invasion in terms of resources, men, and equipment -- Much of that equipment, such as the more modern attack helicopters, cannot be easily if at all replaced. Hell, a lot of it is being abandoned and outright fucking stolen by Ukraine! If the inevitable insurgents get their hands on this stuff, Ukraine is going to be a second Afghanistan for the Russians.
Generals have been killed. Generals.
Public opinion in Russia is either for the war or against it, so there are massive social divides forming. Hell, a lot of Russians and Ukrainians are openly saying "why the fuck are we fighting?" -- including Russian troops!
Western companies, governments, and people have mostly turned against Russia completely -- Whatever "good imagery" they had in people's eyes is now gone. This stigma is going to last for decades.
This may mean Russia will have to turn to China -- Yeah, the Russians don't like or trust the Chinese either.
Russia's economy, already precarious, is hemorrhaging, and it's never been in the best shape to begin with!
The Russian oligarchs are losing money and influence. Putin may end up with a bullet in the back of the head one night if they all turn against him, which is becoming increasingly likely as time goes on.
Yeah, victory or not, it ain't gonna be good for Russia. smh
TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
In my opinion, we will have to wait and see what happens after.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
While generals are sacrosanct in the West, they are not in Russia, they are supposed to go in the harms way. They lost several generals in Chechnya and even couple of days of fighting in Georgia saw one of their generals wounded.
And apart from sanctions I think this is the main reason why USA pushed both countries to war, State Department is probably exerting constant pressure on Ukrainian leadership not to accept Russian terms (accepting loss of Crimea and Donbass) and fight indefinitely. Dead Ukrainians are a paltry price for USA to pay in it's struggle against the Great Satan.