Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

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Yinko

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He's higher def than the other people in the image. If you take a really close look at the area around his head you can see a line through the background where they used the auto-fill tool, same across his shoulders.
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Scottty

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He's higher def than the other people in the image. If you take a really close look at the area around his head you can see a line through the background where they used the auto-fill tool, same across his shoulders.
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I disagree. If you zoom in enough, you can see the same sort of "line" around the heads of all the other people in the photo. Unless they were all pasted in of course, but that gets silly.
 

ShadowArxxy

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Zelensky is saying plainly and directly there is no point to negotiating with Putin, because Putin cannot be trusted to negotiate in good faith.

Which is absolutely true. Even if you're pro-Russia, there's simply no point in negotiating when both sides' current position is that they're not backing down and both sides deem their current military losses not sufficiently severe to cause them to rethink that hardline position.
 

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Which is absolutely true. Even if you're pro-Russia, there's simply no point in negotiating when both sides' current position is that they're not backing down and both sides deem their current military losses not sufficiently severe to cause them to rethink that hardline position.
While true, there is a big difference between Putin's position and Zelensky's; one is demanding another nation's territory be ceded and effectively made a vassal to Moscow again, the other is effectively fighting his nation's war of independence with most of the world backing him.

Putin also has to fear internal assassination plots a hell of a lot more than Zelensky does.
 

Cherico

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While true, there is a big difference between Putin's position and Zelensky's; one is demanding another nation's territory be ceded and effectively made a vassal to Moscow again, the other is effectively fighting his nation's war of independence with most of the world backing him.

Putin also has to fear internal assassination plots a hell of a lot more than Zelensky does.

The biggest issue between the two is if Zelensky dies there are a whole bunch of people who can realistically carry the torch meanwhile Putins pretty much exicuted all of the potential leadership options so once he goes its an open question if any one left can keep the ship of state going.
 

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The biggest issue between the two is if Zelensky dies there are a whole bunch of people who can realistically carry the torch meanwhile Putins pretty much exicuted all of the potential leadership options so once he goes its an open question if any one left can keep the ship of state going.
Frankly I expect either Shoigu, Gerasimov, or possibly even Girkin to be the next in line after Putin bites it, though whether any of them take power afterwards and don't end up in a ditch in the new Russian Civil War is an open question.
 

Cherico

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Frankly I expect either Shoigu, Gerasimov, or possibly even Girkin to be the next in line after Putin bites it, though whether any of them take power afterwards and don't end up in a ditch in the new Russian Civil War is an open question.

Funny thing about a russian civil war, China has historical claims on russian far east territory, and that territory is rich in resources. Japan has historical claims on that big island in the Pacific and it has a buch of resources on it Japn desperately needs. So if Russia goes into civil war there are a bunch of deals that can be made that will be to their perminant detrement.
 
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