Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[Zachowon]

Wait till all the Tradcons realize thier sons will be raped when they are conscripted into the Russian Army.
And thier daughters in worse then anything the US Military has issue wise.

I’m saying that the Polish are exaggerating things or maybe flat up making stuff up because of their previous history with Germany.

And even if Germany did do what the Poles say, can we really blame the Germans for not wanting to shoot themselves in the foot economically and everything else by getting invited in a war that doesn’t involve them? Especially given how well going against Russia went for them the last time.

You mean when they were split by the USSR and how West Germany basically was doing amazing under the eye of the US?
You mean they were working with the worse people of the two

 

[Bacle]

I’m saying that the Polish are exaggerating things or maybe flat up making stuff up because of their previous history with Germany.

And even if Germany did do what the Poles say, can we really blame the Germans for not wanting to shoot themselves in the foot economically and everything else by getting invited in a war that doesn’t involve them? Especially given how well going against Russia went for them the last time.

You got any evidence this is made up, or that the Pole's are lying about what they said Schoeder did?

 

[Marduk]

I’m saying that the Polish are exaggerating things or maybe flat up making stuff up because of their previous history with Germany.

Then you are wrong. Do you even know anything about the long story (possibly longer than your life) between Schroeder and Russia?

And even if Germany did do what the Poles say, can we really blame the Germans for not wanting to shoot themselves in the foot economically and everything else by getting invited in a war that doesn’t involve them?

Sorry, if they feel like larping as Switzerland they have to shut down the EU, otherwise they can't just expect the eastern part of EU to forget about their own interests because Germany wants to make shady deals over their heads.

Especially given how well going against Russia went for them the last time.

And yet how the mighty have fallen... Guess their mistake was that they didn't bring Poles and Ukrainians along.

 

[Terthna]

We are not talking about woke cultist fantasy.
We are talking about YOUR fantasy.

You call it paranoia, you call it incoherent rambling...
But it is not. It is fact. We have seen again, and again, and again... that if you give the USA govt any power. it will be turned on patriots.

Your fantasy is that we should get "tougher anti traitor laws"... yea, those are gonna be used on you. because to them you are a "nazi"

Keep in mind that Maduk is a Polish nationalist; it's not his business to give a crap about what happens to Americans. His only concern is what's in Poland's best interest, which a conflict between America and Russia very much would be; so anything that would facilitate that (such as silencing Americans who would object to such a thing) is something that, in his mind, can only be a good thing.

 

[Zachowon]

He is also a strong poponent for a stronger wealthier America.
Because it benefits him.
A weak America does not

 

[DarthOne]

You got any evidence this is made up, or that the Pole's are lying about what they said Schoeder did?

Not a thing and I admit as such.

 

[Bacle]

Not a thing and I admit as such.

So you admit you were just throwing shade at Poland as a kneejerk reaction, and stirring shit without evidence.

Maybe stop with kneejerk reactions and baseless shade throwing; just makes you look like a fool.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Keep in mind that Maduk is a Polish nationalist; it's not his business to give a crap about what happens to Americans. His only concern is what's in Poland's best interest, which a conflict between America and Russia very much would be; so anything that would facilitate that (such as silencing Americans who would object to such a thing) is something that, in his mind, can only be a good thing.

Honestly that makes a really good argument for a segregated internet.

 

[Blasterbot]

Honestly that makes a really good argument for a segregated internet.

foreigners get to influence people. that is all they really can do. if he wants to advocate for a more authoritarian America he can. He probably won't like the end results of that though.

 

[Marduk]

Honestly that makes a really good argument for a segregated internet.

Chairman Xi: Way ahead of ya!

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Chairman Xi: Way ahead of ya!

Well you know what they say about broken clocks. Funny how China has next to no national influence themselves and yet are able to put thier own fingers in every part of the west... just saying.

 

[Marduk]

Well you know what they say about broken clocks. Funny how China has next to no national influence themselves and yet are able to put thier own fingers in every part of the west... just saying.

Bah, even China's own citizens have next to no influence!
That might have something to do with how the segregated internet is accepted there.

 

[DarthOne]

So you admit you were just throwing shade at Poland as a kneejerk reaction, and stirring shit without evidence.

Maybe stop with kneejerk reactions and baseless shade throwing; just makes you look like a fool.

Say the man whose action was to say ‘damn krauts’ in response to a single German political official allegedly doing something you disliked.

 

[DarthOne]

foreigners get to influence people. that is all they really can do. if he wants to advocate for a more authoritarian America he can. He probably won't like the end results of that though.

He should not like the end result now. Who does he think is helping to flood Poland and Eastern Europe with cultural-Marxist/wokist nonsense?

 

[Captain X]

He should not like the end result now. Who does he think is helping to flood Poland and Eastern Europe with cultural-Marxist/wokist nonsense?

Wonder if maybe that's why he advocates against us having that in our country, too.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Bah, even China's own citizens have next to no influence!
That might have something to do with how the segregated internet is accepted there.

I don't think we American peasants have as much influence in our own country as you think despite our "free" internet.

 

[Blasterbot]

I don't think we American peasants have as much influence in our own country as you think despite our "free" internet.

we have enough influence to attract some glowies. that has to count for something.

 

[Bacle]

Say the man whose action was to say ‘damn krauts’ in response to a single German political official allegedly doing something you disliked.

Oh, it's not a 'single action' that makes me say "damn Krauts", this is just my response to a multiplicity of Russian sympathizers which have been found in the upper eschelons of Germaniy's gov for years now, and general German stupidity in general, of which there is a large amount over many centuries.

 

[mrttao]

Say the man whose action was to say ‘damn krauts’ in response to a single German political official allegedly doing something you disliked.

He also advocates for the genocide of russians. Because of what their ancestors allegedly did 120 years ago

 

[Bacle]

He also advocates for the genocide of russians. Because of what their ancestors allegedly did 120 years ago

I said what I said then, and specified which Russians (hint, not all Russians) I considered to be effective enemies and why. I gave Putin and the Russian people the benefit far longer than I should have.

Any Russian that supports Putin, and what Putin has done in this war, is someone to be considered an enemy, whether they are in Russia or not.

Russia as a nation will be paying for Putin's actions for generations to come financially via war reparations, at minimum.

Putin wants to burn his nation's future in this futile invasion in Ukraine, while only caring about his personal 'legacy', and the 'Second Army of the World' has been shown to be a hollow shell of what it was advertised as.

Even calling Russians orcs is an insult to orcs now, because Sauron's armies were much better led and motivated than Russians have proven to be.

The Russians worth supporting and protecting are the ones who do not support the war or what Putin is doing, and I never said to target them.