Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[mrttao]

Trump tearing into the various globalists and warmongers.

REEEEE
Trump is a vatnik! Gosling! 5th Column!
Trump needs to go back to russia!
/end sacrasm

Back in reality:
As usual trump delivers the truth.
Also, notice his tan looks normal. This is because for years MSM have been applying filters to his speeches to make him look orange

 

[Agent23]

REEEEE
Trump is a vatnik! Gosling! 5th Column!
Trump needs to go back to russia!
/end sacrasm

It is not that the bronekokoshka doesn't think it, but the God Emperor still had too much pull with most of the people on this board and among the conservative base for him to do that.
If not for being in Poland the bronekokoshka would probably be a huge SJW.

 

[Marduk]

Yes, please tell me what my politics are?

I'd love a nice laugh, especially if it is a subject that you don't broken record on at nauseum.

You're a simp for the "Russian world", a vodkaboo, or a troll acting it out.

It is not that the bronekokoshka doesn't think it, but the God Emperor still had too much pull with most of the people on this board and among the conservative base for him to do that.
If not for being in Poland the bronekokoshka would probably be a huge SJW.

Says the guy whining about globalists and warmongers. I remember a time not so long ago when it was soyboys in red shirts and dumb hippies in pink hats who were the ones whining about globalists and warmongers.

 

[mrttao]

bronekokoshka

what is that?

 

[Agent23]

what is that?

Armored chicken/hen.
A reference to the Polish Winged Hussars, who while doing some pretty badass things looked frigging silly with those bird wings.

 

[Agent23]

You're a simp for the "Russian world", a vodkaboo, or a troll acting it out.

Nope, not even close.
A simp for Orthodox slavic-tatar civilization and a form of Eurasianism maybe, but we Bulgarians were doing all of that before it was cool or before there was a Rus.
In essence we made them the way the UK made the US.

Says the guy whining about globalists and warmongers. I remember a time not so long ago when it was soyboys in red shirts and dumb hippies in pink hats who were the ones whining about globalists and warmongers.

Globalists are usually a bunch of crony capitalists that wish to replace all contries and cultures with a homogenous libtard utopia, one thet benefits them and their hirelings.

Also, wanna tell that to the average le Pen or Trump or Meloni supporter?

I hope you do have a good dentist, though.
So, yeah, what I am is closest to a US paleocon/small l libertarian that is, as one guy on the unz review called it, in fecor of capitalism in one country, also I have some classical liberal and nationalist tendencies.

 

[Marduk]

Nope, not even close.
A simp for Orthodox slavic-tatar civilization and a form of Eurasianism maybe, but we Bulgarians were doing all of that before it was cool or before there was a Rus.
In essence we made them the way the UK made the US.

>euroasianism
So a super obscure variation of the same thing (Dugin is probably the most well known euroasianist now), got it.

Globalists are usually a bunch of crony capitalists that wish to replace all contries and cultures with a homogenous libtard utopia, one thet benefits them and their hirelings.

Yeah, sure, of course everyone who has political views that aren't that inherently opposes them. But the same is true even for CCP and ISIL and many others all with their own ideas for how much of the world societies to replace with what, trying to work people into false binaries to get them to support your silly political movement works only on NPCs though.

Also, wanna tell that to the average le Pen or Trump or Meloni supporter?

I hope you do have a good dentist, though.

The ones getting subverted by the silly movements whining about MIC and warmongers, sure.
"Peace movement" filth leaking into the right, who would have thought a decade ago.

 

[mrttao]

Globalists are usually a bunch of crony capitalists that wish to replace all contries and cultures with a homogenous libtard utopia, one thet benefits them and their hirelings.

Crony capitalism is just like all the other adjective-capitalism. A fancy way of saying socialism.

The government levies heavy taxes which they used to finance "private businesses" of their cronies. If they don't outright toss them a bailout. While using heavy regulation to suppress competition for their cronies.
Bog standard Socialism.

Socialism is a system where, allegedly: blend the best of both capitalism and communism by having some free trade, but the government "supplements" it with government financed ventures "for the greater good". where taxes are funneled into "morally righteous" private business as well as "basic and necessary" direct redistribution into the hands of the needy (from each according to their means, to each according to their needs). In reality, it turns out they actually just funnel those funds into cronies pockets. who would have thought?

Capitalism main fault is that it does not defend itself. It does not self correct.
It requires lots of vigorous and active pro capitalist protection to prevent the tendency of those who rose to the top through capitalism from turning it into something else (socialism, feudalism, communism, etc) in their bid to hoard power
Although, all forms of economy reward bad behavior.

About the only adjective-capitalism that is remotely correct is "late stage capitalism". Because it is technically correct that a late stage capitalistic society is socialism. But it is still misleading to call it capitalism instead of what it is, socialism.

But the God Emperor still had too much pull with most of the people on this board and among the conservative base for him to do that.

Probably, but I don't want to assume that they are hypocrites.
I was just applying their logic in a sarcastic manner.
Since several people have said exactly what trump said and got called Vatnik/Gosling/etc

 

[Zachowon]

Should I mention that Trump gave the Javelins to Ukraone and had thr US there training them?

 

[Bacle]

Putin cancels decree underpinning Moldova's sovereignty in separatist conflict

President Vladimir Putin revoked on Tuesday a 2012 decree that in part underpinned Moldova's sovereignty in resolving the future of the Transdniestria region - a Moscow-backed separatist region which borders Ukraine and where Russia keeps troops.

www.reuters.com

Putin has revoked the decree that accept Moldova's part in the sovereignty of the Transnistria region in 2012.

Looks more and more like Putin may actually try something in Moldova, who is not as well armed as Ukraine, and would allow him to open a second front against Ukraine that would threaten Odessa.

 

[AmosTrask]

Ah, and there is my loudmouth tsundere sounding like a broken record and using the "that is you, but what am I" whataboutism again.

Pot meet Kettle.

Blind Hypocrisy thy name is Agent23.

 

[Agent23]

>euroasianism
So a super obscure variation of the same thing (Dugin is probably the most well known euroasianist now), got it.

So what.

Yeah, sure, of course everyone who has political views that aren't that inherently opposes them. But the same is true even for CCP and ISIL and many others all with their own ideas for how much of the world societies to replace with what, trying to work people into false binaries to get them to support your silly political movement works only on NPCs though.

And here we go again, with the Munich fallacy.
If you haven't noticed most people in history are not Adolf Hitler.

The ones getting subverted by the silly movements whining about MIC and warmongers, sure.
"Peace movement" filth leaking into the right, who would have thought a decade ago.

No, the ones who got subverted were the cuckservatives, by a bunch of Trotskyites and ethnic lobbies cloaking their gibberish in American Exceprionslism.

When you look at people like Ike and the Pauls, or Kennnan, or de Gaule, do you think they have been "subverted"?

But of course you do, you sniff deeply of the burning neocuck shit and get high on it.

 

[Agent23]

Should I mention that Trump gave the Javelins to Ukraone and had thr US there training them?

And he also called out the warmongers in the MIC and did a lot to try and distance himself from them.

Don't forget, he could never quash the Russiagate bullshit or purge the swamp or the Republican establishment, so he had to give them something.

 

[AmosTrask]

Putin cancels decree underpinning Moldova's sovereignty in separatist conflict

President Vladimir Putin revoked on Tuesday a 2012 decree that in part underpinned Moldova's sovereignty in resolving the future of the Transdniestria region - a Moscow-backed separatist region which borders Ukraine and where Russia keeps troops.

www.reuters.com

Putin has revoked the decree that accept Moldova's part in the sovereignty of the Transnistria region in 2012.

Looks more and more like Putin may actually try something in Moldova, who is not as well armed as Ukraine, and would allow him to open a second front against Ukraine that would threaten Odessa.

Said this before. Russia wants everything East of Berlin to start with before taking all of Europe. They want to open another front to attack from. But the only way to do so is to move troops up the Danube or over Romanian airspace. There is no way in hell Romania and Ukraine will allow that.

 

[Marduk]

So what.

Now we know what do you represent, and how the suspicions of the people you argue with were quite close to the mark.

And here we go again, with the Munich fallacy.
If you haven't noticed most people in history are not Adolf Hitler.

True, but the number of shitty ideologies of history is staggering, and Hitlerism is just one of many.

No, the ones who got subverted were the cuckservatives, by a bunch of Trotskyites and ethnic lobbies cloaking their gibberish in American Exceprionslism.

Better American than your Russia simping eurasian exceptionalism

When you look at people like Ike and the Pauls, or Kennnan, or de Gaule, do you think they have been "subverted"?

Yeah, pick the people with the loosest association with the arguments you are pushing to the front of your defense, most of them dead. As for Pauls, well, their movement is clearly no longer in its golden age of Tea Party and doesn't seem to be heading back there, make of that what you will.

But of course you do, you sniff deeply of the burning neocuck shit and get high on it.

If KGB\FSB useful idiots are so butthurt about neocons, they must be right about something.

 

[King Arts]

You're a simp for the "Russian world", a vodkaboo, or a troll acting it out.

Says the guy whining about globalists and warmongers. I remember a time not so long ago when it was soyboys in red shirts and dumb hippies in pink hats who were the ones whining about globalists and warmongers.

Lol vodkaboo I like that I’ll have to use it in the future.

 

[Agent23]

Now we know what do you represent, and how the suspicions of the people you argue with were quite close to the mark.

True, but the number of shitty ideologies of history is staggering, and Hitlerism is just one of many.

Better American than your Russia simping eurasian exceptionalism

Yeah, pick the people with the loosest association with the arguments you are pushing to the front of your defense, most of them dead. As for Pauls, well, their movement is clearly no longer in its golden age of Tea Party and doesn't seem to be heading back there, make of that what you will.

If KGB\FSB useful idiots are so butthurt about neocons, they must be right about something.

To sum up your usual response, which you have provided here. "Reeeee!!!" And nothing of substance, as per usual.
I don't give a shit about purity tests or your definitions of what you think I am, because frankly you are yet another irrelevant nobody.
Also, any "principals" you might have are as firm as cotton candy and melt or deform whenever your personal little biases or preconceptions or your bootlicking impulses kick in.

 

[Marduk]

To sum up your usual response, which you have provided here. "Reeeee!!!" And nothing of substance, as per usual.
I don't give a shit about purity tests or your definitions of what you think I am, because frankly you are yet another irrelevant nobody.

Of course, the only substances you would notice are the kind you could abuse.
I know that you care about nothing outside your own delusions, but at least now everyone can not only understand how ridiculous your opinions are, but also name the reason why are you like this, which is at least one useful thing that came out of this iteration of the same conversation we've had several times already.

Also, any "principals" you might have are as firm as cotton candy and melt or deform whenever your personal little biases or preconceptions or your bootlicking impulses kick in.

A bloody Putin simp accusing me of bootlicking, now i've seen everything.
And don't shit talk my principals lest you want to deal with my superintendents.

 

[Agent23]

Of course, the only substances you would notice are the kind you could abuse.
I know that you care about nothing outside your own delusions, but at least now everyone can not only understand how ridiculous your opinions are, but also name the reason why are you like this, which is at least one useful thing that came out of this iteration of the same conversation we've had several times already.

A bloody Putin simp accusing me of bootlicking, now i've seen everything.
And don't shit talk my principals lest you want to deal with my superintendents.

Oh, look, even more substance-free REEING!

 

[Scooby Doo]

Man I just want America to start pooling in the funding they gave Ukraine to America.


How can they tell us that there's no money for Trump's border wall and than give like 50 billion to Ukraine in just a year.


Even Trump's wall that would cost 18 billion over several years was considered impossibly expensive by the Libs despite having a stronger economy than post COVID.

It's bullshit