Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion
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Comedy is terror plus time.
KilroywasNOTHere
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Why?!?!?
Mr. Blonde (@Vic_Vega555)
When you try to shoot down a Russian missile but it still hits a Polish village
nitter.1d4.us
Considering that the Ukrainian missile was something fired as an intercept for incoming Russian munitions, this is still on Russia.
If Russia was not continuing this invasion and air raids/strikes on Ukraine, none of this would be happening.
Yep, absolutely. Russia is very welcome to stop this invasion at any time and return to the pre-war front lines at the very least.
No, it isn't. You could conceivably argue an accident, but saying "It's Russia's fault" is just completely not at all how stuff works, and also a bad tack to take if one wants to avoid war with Russia (which anyone with a brain wants to do).
I never argued in favor of a military response to this, FWIW. But he does have a point that Ukraine would not have fired this missile had it not still been at war with Russia.
Marc Chagall's Green Goat (@AstralPreobraz1)
It was the Russians. They irresponsibly sent a missile to hit a target next to the Polish border, a Ukrainian AA missile missed it and accidentally hit Polish territory. If a criminal shoots at a cop next to bystanders and cop accidentally hits bystander, the criminal is to blame
nitter.1d4.us
It's Russias fault.
Like it's Japan's fault Normady happend
Considering Russia was targeting powerlines, rail, bridge and pipelines on the border to stop Poland's trade with Ukraine. The current ongoing barrage of the last three days having been triggered by the rout in Kherson and Dnipro I most certainly do blame Russia not Ukraine.
On another note. Does anyone know the answer to the following? Is it a translation error or a local convention of language that both Ukraine and Russia refer to the Eastern Bank as the Left Bank? On the map the East is clearly the Right Bank.
Damn autocorrect rewrote my sentence. I do not blame Ukraine. The ultimate fault lies with Russia.
I'm going to stay here in Zurich for a few weeks until things settle down. Hell of a way to use my paid vacation days. Fucking Soviets!
bintananth
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Local convention, I think.
The Ukraine does have a path to victory now.
But it is not nice, basically it all involves Crimea. They have to bomb the bridges leading there and destroy the outside power and water including a major sluse gate. Then that pensular has to feed themselves just on what they grow there which they cant do with the water that's just with in the area.
Then you let the ethnic russians there die in an Ethopian level famine, the bad live aid one. That might do enough damage to break the russian will to fight that might kill enough russians to do it but it is going to be absolutely brutal.
But it is not nice, basically it all involves Crimea. They have to bomb the bridges leading there and destroy the outside power and water including a major sluse gate. Then that pensular has to feed themselves just on what they grow there which they cant do with the water that's just with in the area.
Then you let the ethnic russians there die in an Ethopian level famine, the bad live aid one. That might do enough damage to break the russian will to fight that might kill enough russians to do it but it is going to be absolutely brutal.
Yes. Medieval type siege starvation
goes back much further then that and it never really went away as a tactic.
It can still be very effective.
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