Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

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Look, if this was the grain silo/drier exploding, why is it not in many, many small pieces, instead of sitting on it's side with a large hole in it, on the edge of a crater?

Edit: The Russian stock market is treat things like this is real.
 


Look, if this was the grain silo/drier exploding, why is it not in many, many small pieces, instead of sitting on it's side with a large hole in it, on the edge of a crater?

Edit: The Russian stock market is treat things like this is real.

The memes will be glorious.
Polish farmer remotely blows up Russian stock market :D
 
Russian missiles striking Polish soil and killing Polish citizens.

Poland's going to retaliate. What else can they do in the face of an outrage like this?
 
Russian missiles striking Polish soil and killing Polish citizens.

Poland's going to retaliate. What else can they do in the face of an outrage like this?
But... They didn't? Random clickbaiters and shitty journos went with it.
All official sources, Polish, US, Russian deny this.
 
But... They didn't? Random clickbaiters and shitty journos went with it.
All official sources, Polish, US, Russian deny this.


So what may have happened is that this was the remains of a Russian missile intercepted by Ukraine, and the debris's momentum carried it across the border.

That would explain the lack of radar tracks.
 
So what may have happened is that this was the remains of a Russian missile intercepted by Ukraine, and the debris's momentum carried it across the border.

That would explain the lack of radar tracks.
I really, really want this to be true. Like so, so much desperately hope this is true, and we can deescalate back to just a war, not nukes-fly-everyone-dies inevitability of any US/Russia hot war.
 
I really, really want this to be true. Like so, so much desperately hope this is true, and we can deescalate back to just a war, not nukes-fly-everyone-dies inevitability of any US/Russia hot war.
Still, most likely boring grain dryer explosion.


So what may have happened is that this was the remains of a Russian missile intercepted by Ukraine, and the debris's momentum carried it across the border.

That would explain the lack of radar tracks.

7+ km is a lot for debris to travel. And there would be no explosion at the end. Unless it was a weird coincidence and debris hit has initiated a grain dust explosion.
 
I really, really want this to be true. Like so, so much desperately hope this is true, and we can deescalate back to just a war, not nukes-fly-everyone-dies inevitability of any US/Russia hot war.
Perhaps your Libertarian Party friends can petition Putin to stop using munitions close to the border with Poland, if said munitions have an error margin which would include the border.

Or maybe admit the NAP cannot keep reckless madmen in other nations from pushing us to the brink of WW3.
Still, most likely boring grain dryer explosion.

7+ km is a lot for debris to travel. And there would be no explosion at the end. Unless it was a weird coincidence and debris hit has initiated a grain dust explosion.
It wasn't a grain explosion, the debris hit farmers as they were operating that equipment. If it had been a drier explosion, the drier wouldn't be on the side of the crater, it'd be so many pieces you wouldn't recognize it.

It is possible the warhead was still semi-functional, or the explosives in it were just unstable enough that an uncontrolled impact of the debris set it off.

Edit: And it's not just Poland that's gotten hit by stray Russian missiles; Moldova has gotten hit too it seems.
 
Fuck! I just woke up. This is what I get for going on a pub crawl. Grad missiles in Poland! ARTICLE FIVE! Fuck. Well, Territorial Defense rejected me for my flat feet. I guess I'm getting my go bag. Good thing I have cousins in Switzerland. Good Luck Amigoes!

Worst birthday ever!
 
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Perhaps your Libertarian Party friends can petition Putin to stop using munitions close to the border with Poland, if said munitions have an error margin which would include the border.

Or maybe admit the NAP cannot keep reckless madmen in other nations from pushing us to the brink of WW3.
Really, what's your solution? Nuclear war? Yeah, shockingly enough I'd much prefer talking to nuclear war.

Also the "Oooh, something possibly horrific is gonna happen, let's decide to use this to arbitrarily attack my political enemy" is expectedly awful as well, even ignoring that your objection doesn't even work.

For everyone else, if this doesn't result in World War III, it's a great time to note who simps for nuclear annihilation and who doesn't.
 
Perhaps your Libertarian Party friends can petition Putin to stop using munitions close to the border with Poland, if said munitions have an error margin which would include the border.

Or maybe admit the NAP cannot keep reckless madmen in other nations from pushing us to the brink of WW3.
It wasn't a grain explosion, the debris hit farmers as they were operating that equipment. If it had been a drier explosion, the drier wouldn't be on the side of the crater, it'd be so many pieces you wouldn't recognize it.

It is possible the warhead was still semi-functional, or the explosives in it were just unstable enough that an uncontrolled impact of the debris set it off.
Where the fuck are you getting that info? Your imagination is not a valid answer.
Here's a serious media report, google translate it if you want.
"Explosion in grain dryer. It happened when a tractor with corn was entering the building's (weighting) scales. Firemen are still working. Causes of explosion are being investigated".
Edit: And it's not just Poland that's gotten hit by stray Russian missiles; Moldova has gotten hit too it seems.

Yes, because Moldova's electric network was buying some power from Ukraine, and guess what happened there.
 
I don't think the stray shot will result in escalation unless Poland decides to respond in kind.

As for the idea that Russians would like to escalate...I don't think any of the actual movers and shakers want that to happen b/c they know how badly Russia is stretched already.
 
I don't think the stray shot will result in escalation unless Poland decides to respond in kind.

As for the idea that Russians would like to escalate...I don't think any of the actual movers and shakers want that to happen b/c they know how badly Russia is stretched already.
Again, no stray shot was confirmed. The fact that it happened in a fucking grain dryer during work means everyone with a clue goes "investigation needed". Those who don't either have, make clickbait or have malicious intent.
 
Well people here are worried they had the fucking air raid sirens going off before saner heads ordered it shut off! Fucking Russians!
 
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