Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

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Zachowon

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LordsFire said:
You have one take, from one specific unit.

Let's see how many sources I can easily pony up on the Russians getting shellacked?

Artillery strike on Russian positions as they're pushed back near Chuhuiv.

Disastrous Russian attempt at a river crossing near Bilohorivka. Postive IDs on a minimum of 90 military vehicles lost, likely end count will be 100-150. This happened ~3 weeks ago. Still shots of the wreckage of same

A generally useful map of the war in action. Note that there is no longer a front by Kyiv or Chernihiv. Because the Russians were driven all the way back across the border. The Russians are advancing on the eastern front, but they were crushed on the western; keeping both fronts in mind gives a much more balanced image of the war.
Russian APC hit by ATGM fire. [/URL] Tank getting hit. Another.
Another vehicle hit.
Another.
Three destroyed Russian AFVs.
Russian supply convoy ambush, footage from a drone.
Russian base hit by Ukrainian artillery.
Russian ammo dump hit by Ukraiian artillery.
Some Russian SPGs destroyed, claimed by counter-battery fire.

I could go on, and on, and on, because there's hundreds of images and videos of Russian hardware getting destroyed. There is not equivalent volume of video of Ukrainian hardware being destroyed. This isn't merely stuff 'Ukrainian government claims' either, this is material from a broad base of sources (such as the famous videos of Ukrainian farmers hauling tanks and other AFVs away with tractors), that has been evaluated by a broad variety of people around the world for validity and location.

You get things like this:

A resource created by independent parties on the internet, showing confirmed locations of various footage and still shots. Have a look around, see what you find.

In the end, I'm pretty confident none of this will convince you. Why?



This is a religious statement. It's not just 'Things look bad for the Ukrainians,' it's not just 'Russians have overwhelming advantages,' it's a 'no matter what.'

You have placed your faith in the Russians winning.

I, on the other hand, think it's entirely possible either side could win. I think the Russians are less likely to win, due to the sheer will to fight that the Ukrainians are demonstrating, but that's far from being certain.

Also, I am making a note that you've claimed Russian total victory will happen, as of May 31st 2022. I'm going to expect you to be eating crow at least on the 'total' part some time down the line, possibly on the 'victory' part too.
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Today is the 31st and in Ukraine it is almost over.
Doubt the ruskies have any victory
 
PsihoKekec

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They are paying, their oil and gas profits are through the roof. Ukraine on the other hand is faced with 30-50% loss of GDP (being invaded does that to a country) and is thereby fully reliant on loans and grants (more than before that is) for continuing functioning of the government apparatus. Russia had budget surplus for most of the past decade so they can carry the financial burden of this war.
 
LordsFire

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PsihoKekec said:
They are paying, their oil and gas profits are through the roof. Ukraine on the other hand is faced with 30-50% loss of GDP (being invaded does that to a country) and is thereby fully reliant on loans and grants (more than before that is) for continuing functioning of the government apparatus. Russia had budget surplus for most of the past decade so they can carry the financial burden of this war.
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Their lack of basic competence and understrength military formations suggest that they really are not carrying the burden at all well.

They've been slacking on training and maintenance.
 
Zachowon

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LordsFire said:
Their lack of basic competence and understrength military formations suggest that they really are not carrying the burden at all well.

They've been slacking on training and maintenance.
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But ya see, they don't have LGBTQ so they are better then western militaries.
Even though the training I do is leagues better then what they have
 
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Zachowon said:
But ya see, they don't have LGBTQ so they are better then western militaries.
Even though the training I do is leagues better then what they have
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Gay people are not the problem, I mean the Navy has been gay as hell since the word go. Gay people can and have performed well on the battlefield and served this country admirably.

The problem isn't black people, harlem hellfighters, buffolow solidgers, and a whole lot of fucking badassery prove that.

Asians the fucking christmas tree batalion. The problem isnt sexuality, race or even gender when you get down to it. The problem is the woke bullshit. You can get away with being woke in university because the stakes are low and you get public money no matter how incompetant you are. In the miltary if your a fuck up people die.

You do not need devisive woke bullshit to get every one on the same page, having the enemy shoot at all of you is motivation enough to get over any personal bullshit you have.
 
Zachowon

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Cherico said:
Gay people are not the problem, I mean the Navy has been gay as hell since the word go. Gay people can and have performed well on the battlefield and served this country admirably.

The problem isn't black people, harlem hellfighters, buffolow solidgers, and a whole lot of fucking badassery prove that.

Asians the fucking christmas tree batalion. The problem isnt sexuality, race or even gender when you get down to it. The problem is the woke bullshit. You can get away with being woke in university because the stakes are low and you get public money no matter how incompetant you are. In the miltary if your a fuck up people die.

You do not need devisive woke bullshit to get every one on the same page, having the enemy shoot at all of you is motivation enough to get over any personal bullshit you have.
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I'm being phacesus when I say that.
People go on about how the US and western mitary are weak because we are not men only, straight only military
 
Husky_Khan

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Taiwan is Apparently Banning the Export of all Modern Chips to Russia and Belarus from Taiwanese Companies. 25 mhz or less! This also apparently includes related technology so that Belarus and Russia won't be able to manufacture the chips themselves.


www.taiwannews.com.tw

Taiwan bans exports of all modern chips to Russia, Belarus | Taiwan News | 2022-06-02 13:19:00

Taiwan limits sales of CPUs to less than 25 MHz to Russia, Belarus for Ukraine invasion | 2022-06-02 13:19:00
www.taiwannews.com.tw www.taiwannews.com.tw
 
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Cherico said:
Gay people are not the problem, I mean the Navy has been gay as hell since the word go. Gay people can and have performed well on the battlefield and served this country admirably.

The problem isn't black people, harlem hellfighters, buffolow solidgers, and a whole lot of fucking badassery prove that.

Asians the fucking christmas tree batalion. The problem isnt sexuality, race or even gender when you get down to it. The problem is the woke bullshit. You can get away with being woke in university because the stakes are low and you get public money no matter how incompetant you are. In the miltary if your a fuck up people die.

You do not need devisive woke bullshit to get every one on the same page, having the enemy shoot at all of you is motivation enough to get over any personal bullshit you have.
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Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being a non-binary grrrl in the military, just so long as you can actually fight. :)

Husky_Khan said:
Taiwan is Apparently Banning the Export of all Modern Chips to Russia and Belarus from Taiwanese Companies. 25 mhz or less! This also apparently includes related technology so that Belarus and Russia won't be able to manufacture the chips themselves.


www.taiwannews.com.tw

Taiwan bans exports of all modern chips to Russia, Belarus | Taiwan News | 2022-06-02 13:19:00

Taiwan limits sales of CPUs to less than 25 MHz to Russia, Belarus for Ukraine invasion | 2022-06-02 13:19:00
www.taiwannews.com.tw www.taiwannews.com.tw
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Great news! :)
 
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Terthna

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Bacle said:


Looks like Russia is not going to be getting Taiwanese chips ever again, even if sanctions drop at some point.
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Also looks like Russia is firmly allying themselves with China, for the time being at least. That's not good news for us.
 
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