Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

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That's an old Polish goal, rebuild the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth to counter Russia:

At this point all they can really do is just reannex Galicia, which seems to be the play that will be made once the Donbass front collapses.

1.It would be good idea - unfortunatelly,our neo Sanacja is doing what USA want.
2.Not possible,they would rather gave part of Poland to Ukraine.Ruling neo Sanacja do not care about poles on Ukraine,only think how they could help Zelensky.

To be fair it was a good plan. Unfortantly the Poles live next to germany.

Really that tends to be polands biggest problem being located between the two of them.

Indeed.All Europe need is free Bavaria and Saxony,after that Berlin could go fuck itself.

Putin doesn't really have a replacement waiting in the wings, once he's gone....things will get worse for Russia.

Which generally speaking is how russian history goes.

Indeed.They are not democratic state,so ruler could be changed only by putch.And after that,we have little war over who would be next Putin.
 
To be fair it was a good plan. Unfortantly the Poles live next to germany.

Really that tends to be polands biggest problem being located between the two of them.
Not since 1945. I mean Poland has been begging Germany to spend more on their military for 10 years. Poland's biggest problem in the 20th century has been Poland's belligerence with their neighbors.
 
Putin doesn't really have a replacement waiting in the wings, once he's gone....things will get worse for Russia.

Which generally speaking is how russian history goes.
I will be curious who gets control in the resulting power struggle.
 
Not since 1945. I mean Poland has been begging Germany to spend more on their military for 10 years. Poland's biggest problem in the 20th century has been Poland's belligerence with their neighbors.

Germany attacked Poland, and genocided poles,not otherwise.And germans still refuse to pay for their crimes.
And for every german from Otton 3 times,we were belligerant when we want live free on our own land.
When for every good german it is obvious,that germans have rights to anything we have.
 
Germany attacked Poland, and genocided poles,not otherwise.And germans still refuse to pay for their crimes.
And for every german from Otton 3 times,we were belligerant when we want live free on our own land.
When for every good german it is obvious,that germans have rights to anything we have.

Overy says that of all the new states in Europe:
"Poland was almost certainly the most disliked and her Foreign Minister the most distrusted. Poland's pursuit of an independent line left her bereft of any close friends by the end of 1938.... The Western powers saw Poland as a greedy revisionist power, illiberal, anti-Semitic, pro-German; Beck was a 'menace,' 'arrogant and treacherous.'"[42]
 

1.war with Ukraine - Austrians gave their army polish city Lwów - and local poles/there were no ukrainians there/ beat them.
Later polish army come and beaten ukrainian so-called army.

2.Soviets attacked polish city Wilno,starting war.We stop war to let them finish Denikin,and attacked Kiev to create state for ukrainians.Ukrainians do not wanted fight for their state,so we must retreat.
When soviets was attacking Warsaw,they wanted take rest of Europe after that.

3.Lithuania was german invention,and they help soviets when they attacked us,so soviets gave them our territory including polish city Wilno.We retake that.

4.In Silesia german faked elections and beat poles - so we made 3 uprisings,partially winning.

And,it is obvious that germans,lithuanians ,soviets and czech who attacked us in 1919 hated Poland.They all either stolen our land,or wanted do that.
British - they supported germans from 1918 in their games,so they wanted us destroyed.
 
Ukraine is collapsing, not Russia. Why would a victorious Russian leader get couped?
Wishful thinking? I mean, I don't know how this is all going to end; but I do know a lot of people in the west think Putin getting removed from power will fix everything. Instead of, you know, just making things worse; which is far more likely.
 
Wishful thinking? I mean, I don't know how this is all going to end; but I do know a lot of people in the west think Putin getting removed from power will fix everything. Instead of, you know, just making things worse; which is far more likely.
It's going to get worse.
 
Wishful thinking? I mean, I don't know how this is all going to end; but I do know a lot of people in the west think Putin getting removed from power will fix everything. Instead of, you know, just making things worse; which is far more likely.

Becouse Putin is idiot,who refused deal with USA.He would ally against China - and not only could keep Siberia,but take Ukraine and Poland,too.That was offered in 2021.Idiot refused,and decide to prove that he is Napoleon.
Bad for Ukraine and Moscov army,good for everybody else.

Becouse ,once Putin is killed,new KGB colonel would take that deal and genocide us.So - long live comrade Putin.I knew,that it suck for Ukraine and Moscov - but,i live in Poland.
 
Ukraine is collapsing, not Russia. Why would a victorious Russian leader get couped?

I think I've asked this question before, but would you care to lay a prediction to when that collapse is going to actually happen?

Or even 'just' a collapse on the Donbass front?

Or are you just trying to reassure yourself of something that, at this point, is transparently untrue?
 
Becouse Putin is idiot,who refused deal with USA.He would ally against China - and not only could keep Siberia,but take Ukraine and Poland,too.That was offered in 2021.Idiot refused,and decide to prove that he is Napoleon.
Bad for Ukraine and Moscov army,good for everybody else.

Becouse ,once Putin is killed,new KGB colonel would take that deal and genocide us.So - long live comrade Putin.I knew,that it suck for Ukraine and Moscov - but,i live in Poland.
What deal are you talking about? Because I've never heard of anything like that being offered to Putin; and it doesn't make sense that it would be, considering that our leaders are puppets of China who want to surrender our country to them, not fight them.
 
That's an old Polish goal, rebuild the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth to counter Russia:

At this point all they can really do is just reannex Galicia, which seems to be the play that will be made once the Donbass front collapses.

The Donbas != all of Ukraine. Even assuming that the Donbass Front actually collapses, which I'm not convinced of at this specific point in time, Ukraine still has plenty of other cities. There are Kiev, Kharkiv, Odessa, Mykolayiv, Zaporizhia, and Pavlohrad, after all.

And Poland doesn't actually want Galicia with all of its Banderists:


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And Poland doesn't actually want Galicia with all of its Banderists:

The Polish government will as a buffer zone when Ukraine starts falling apart.

The Donbas != all of Ukraine. Even assuming that the Donbass Front actually collapses, which I'm not convinced of at this specific point in time, Ukraine still has plenty of other cities. There are Kiev, Kharkiv, Odessa, Mykolayiv, Zaporizhia, and Pavlohrad, after all.
Given that the fortifications and best troops of the Ukrainian army as all there, once it falls there is nothing stopping the Russians from exploiting to the Dnieper and beyond. As the Ukrainians have said themselves they are already outnumbered and outgunned in the Donbass and they have to guard the entire border with Russia and Belarus. Territorial units as well as some regular army ones sent into the Donbass are already mutinying and posting videos explaining why the survivors of those units are refusing to fight any further. Morale is rock bottom and only going to get worse if the Donbass falls along with 10-20k troops falling into a pocket. As it is if they don't retreat out of the Severodonetsk pocket now before it fully closes (the Soledar Highway has already been cut as of today) they will lose probably around 15,000 men. As it is they just have a 'golden bridge' that is shutting (they evacuated Lyman today) and will probably lose at least 5,000 men no matter what, but even if they do extract about 10,000 they will lose all their heavy equipment in the process.

Situation this morning:
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