Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

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WolfBear

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It involved the US taking over the economy via corporations and installing a puppet regime. Territorial losses or not the US set all sorts of nasty precedents with moves like that. Of course during the Cold War that was relatively normal.

TBF, the outcome for the Iraqi people might have still been better if the alternative to this would have been to have Iraq turn into a giant Syria during the Arab Spring.
 

PsihoKekec

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TBF, the outcome for the Iraqi people might have still been better if the alternative to this would have been to have Iraq turn into a giant Syria during the Arab Spring.
And much of the Arab Spring bloodshed is due to American and Saudi involvement. So the bloodshed started by USA might be better than hypothetical USA sponsored bloodshed? Makes sense.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
Biden won because people hated Trump and fraud.
Simple as

Biden didn't win.

There was a Chinese backed coup detat initiated by Beijing using big tech and banking oligarchs and officiated by the Intelligence community who committed numerous acts of treason in an organized conspiracy to put a puppet friendly to Chinese/Globalist interests in the white house.

Claiming anything else is to willfully deny reality.
 

WolfBear

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Biden didn't win.

There was a Chinese backed coup detat initiated by Beijing using big tech and banking oligarchs and officiated by the Intelligence community who committed numerous acts of treason in an organized conspiracy to put a puppet friendly to Chinese/Globalist interests in the white house.

Claiming anything else is to willfully deny reality.

Yes, there was certainly a conspiracy between the Chinese Communist Party and the US Deep State to develop and release COVID-19 in 2020 in order to doom Donald Trump's 2020 reelection bid! ;)
 

WolfBear

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And much of the Arab Spring bloodshed is due to American and Saudi involvement. So the bloodshed started by USA might be better than hypothetical USA sponsored bloodshed? Makes sense.
Are you also going to blame the US for encouraging the Iraqi people to rebel against Saddam Hussein in 1991 and thus refusing to support them?
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
Yes, there was certainly a conspiracy between the Chinese Communist Party and the US Deep State to develop and release COVID-19 in 2020 in order to doom Donald Trump's 2020 reelection bid! ;)

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USA encouraged people to rebel, then let them get slaughtered, it was a mayor league cunt move.

A lesson from Iraq and Libya can perhaps be learned here.

Namely that no one stops to consider that maybe these Slavic strong men, much like Sadam and Gaddafi act as tard wranglers and jailers for the more insane and destructive elements of their societies and once they're toppled the guy coming next is gonna be infinitely worse.
 

ATP

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A lesson from Iraq and Libya can perhaps be learned here.

Namely that no one stops to consider that maybe these Slavic strong men, much like Sadam and Gaddafi act as tard wranglers and jailers for the more insane and destructive elements of their societies and once they're toppled the guy coming next is gonna be infinitely worse.

Indeed.Putin is genocider and psycho,but when somebody kill him,next ruler would be as bad or worst.And you ALWAYS could have worst ruler in Moscov.
If you want relatively normal Russia,you need cut it into few smaller states.
One of reasons why Kiev Russia was normal,was becouse it was,in fact,few states,not one.
 

bintananth

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Why not just give the stuff to Ukraine instead of saddling them with even more long term debt? Afteral, USA got them into this shit in the first place.l
Lend-lease is "We'll let you borrow our stuff. We'll also foot the bill for it on the condition that you return what's left when this is over."

Most of it never came back.

The US aid to the USSR during WWII was more than five times as expensive as the Atomic Bomb.
 
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