Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[History Learner]

I’m enjoying watching Ukraine get the shit beat out of it and the only thing NATO fans can do is whine impotently on the sidelines.

 

[Captain X]

The fuck is wrong with some of you people? Seriously.

 

[History Learner]

The fuck is wrong with some of you people? Seriously.

Cute pearl clutching after your posts on the last page lol.

 

[Captain X]

I don't go around wishing death on people though, do I? Especially not people defending their homes, or others trying to help them to do so. Seriously, it is beyond fucked up that you Putin cheerleaders are openly cheering on a naked act of conquest, and the best any of you brainlets can come up with for why is "muh Putin never lied to me about Covid."

 

[History Learner]

I don't go around wishing death on people though, do I? Especially not people defending their homes, or others trying to help them to do so. Seriously, it is beyond fucked up that you Putin cheerleaders are openly cheering on a naked act of conquest, and the best any of you brainlets can come up with for why is "muh Putin never lied to me about Covid."

You do, and you know it too you're just pearl clutching. As you said on the last page:

Putin being forced out of the government, even if it's literally just him retiring to his massive mansion instead of anything involving violence, is about the only way Russia makes it out of this relatively unscathed.

Very clearly endorsing regime change here, despite the fact we know from 30 years of experience that entails millions of deaths and tens of millions displaced from their homes by it. Your feigned outrage is solely from the fact you justify it to yourself because "its the evil Russians" rather than your beloved Ukrainians, who currently are talking about castrating wounded Russian PoWs and genociding Russian children on live TV, so save your fucking crocodile tears.

I'm glad you brought up COVID, even as a strawman, because its a salient point to make: there is exactly zero difference between people like you and the raving COVID cultists of the past few years. You've both bought into a narrative being spun by the media and elites with exactly zero consideration of it or the wider situation because you will gleefully become an NPC as long as they tickle certain codewords for you.

 

[Captain X]

You do, and you know it too you're just pearl clutching. As you said on the last page:

Very clearly endorsing regime change here, despite the fact we know from 30 years of experience that entails millions of deaths and tens of millions displaced from their homes by it.

Really? And where exactly did I advocate for anyone to kill anyone?

Your feigned outrage is solely from the fact you justify it to yourself because "its the evil Russians" rather than your beloved Ukrainians, who currently are talking about castrating wounded Russian PoWs and genociding Russian children on live TV, so save your fucking crocodile tears.

The Russians invaded Ukraine. Is that sinking in for you at all? Does that compute?

I'm glad you brought up COVID,

I brought it up because it's one of the most common lines of bullshit Putin apologists use.

even as a strawman, because its a salient point to make: there is exactly zero difference between people like you and the raving COVID cultists of the past few years.

And yet you are the one cheering on the invasion of a country and the murder of its people.

You've both bought into a narrative being spun by the media and elites with exactly zero consideration of it or the wider situation because you will gleefully become an NPC as long as they tickle certain codewords for you.

And you've bought into a narrative that basically only exists to be contrarian, so it's pretty rich for you to be accusing anyone else of being an NPC.

I’m enjoying watching Ukraine get the shit beat out of it and the only thing NATO fans can do is whine impotently on the sidelines.

I see you edited this to take out the part where you were cheering on the deaths of Westerners who signed on to defend Ukraine. Did you think better of openly celebrating the deaths of men, who, whatever else you might say about them, were certainly braver than you lot?

 

[Lord Sovereign]

I’m enjoying watching Ukraine get the shit beat out of it and the only thing NATO fans can do is whine impotently on the sidelines.

"I hate wokies so much that I'm siding with a regime that actively disappears and/or murders its opponents."

This is the "big gay" of radicalism, chaps. It's a rabbit hole you never stop falling down.

 

[History Learner]

Really? And where exactly did I advocate for anyone to kill anyone?

Switched from pearl clutching to playing dumb I see; that's okay, we all know exactly what you were implying with your quoted comment. You endorsed regime change, which has quite literally killed millions. You can hide your intent with euphemisms all you want, doesn't change a thing.

The Russians invaded Ukraine. Is that sinking in for you at all? Does that compute?

Yeah, don't care, looking forward to the Russian victory parade in Kiev. First Afghanistan, now Ukraine; may the blows continue until NATO collapses.

I brought it up because it's one of the most common lines of bullshit Putin apologists use.

In other words, a strawman that I've never once brought up and you use solely because that's all you have.

And yet you are the one cheering on the invasion of a country and the murder of its people.

Save your fake outrage for someone dumb enough to believe it, because I certainly don't.

And you've bought into a narrative that basically only exists to be contrarian, so it's pretty rich for you to be accusing anyone else of being an NPC.

The NPC meme is precisely about people who unquestionably follow "the current thing" whether its COVID or Pro-Ukraine stuff as it is now. Being contrarian is precisely the opposite of what the meme conveys; might find it useful to know what you're talking about before trying to argue on it.

 

[History Learner]

"I hate wokies so much that I'm siding with a regime that actively disappears and/or murders its opponents."

This is the "big gay" of radicalism, chaps. It's a rabbit hole you never stop falling down.

Exactly, that's why NATO must be destroyed and Russia supported given the former does that and the latter doesn't.

 

[History Learner]

I see you edited this to take out the part where you were cheering on the deaths of Westerners who signed on to defend Ukraine. Did you think better of openly celebrating the deaths of men, who, whatever else you might say about them, were certainly braver than you lot?

So "brave" that the ones who weren't reduced to a fine mist in Lvov promptly fled back to Poland. If they are your ideal, that's rather telling I would think.

They signed up for a side that in 2014-2015 was quite literally crucifying ethnic Russians and setting them on fire among other horrific shit, so don't sit here and pearl clutch with me. My only regret is the Russians reduced them to ground beef via Kaliber strike rather than captured them and sent them to the gallows after a trial making their crimes public for all to see for posterity.

 

[Captain X]

Still braver than you are. They didn't stick to just talking the talk, like you.

 

[History Learner]

Still braver than you are. They didn't stick to just talking the talk, like you.

Is that why they went back to Poland without doing any actual fighting lol? That’s the definition of being all talk.

 

[Captain X]

Switched from pearl clutching to playing dumb I see; that's okay, we all know exactly what you were implying with your quoted comment. You endorsed regime change, which has quite literally killed millions. You can hide your intent with euphemisms all you want, doesn't change a thing.

I do not speak in euphemisms - I speak plainly. Putin deciding to retire to his massive mansion would be entirely bloodless, you know, aside from all the poor bastards he sent off to die in Ukraine so he can fantasize about Russia being as powerful as the Soviet Union was.

Yeah, don't care, looking forward to the Russian victory parade in Kiev. First Afghanistan, now Ukraine; may the blows continue until NATO collapses.

Yeah, we certainly wouldn't want a defensive alliance to keep us or any of our friends from getting attacked by someone like Russia.

In other words, a strawman that I've never once brought up and you use solely because that's all you have.

In other words a line of bullshit other Putin fanbois have brought up as a common defense of their idiocy.

Save your fake outrage for someone dumb enough to believe it, because I certainly don't.

There is nothing fake about how incensed I am that you would cheer for the deaths of others who have certainly never done you any harm, nor about all the people whose lives are being taken.

The NPC meme is precisely about people who unquestionably follow "the current thing"

And in your case, that programming would be "NATO bad" "Putin based." 🤖

Is that why they went back to Poland without doing any actual fighting lol? That’s the definition of being all talk.

As opposed to some edgy boi who talks shit on some internet forum?

 

[History Learner]

I do not speak in euphemisms - I speak plainly. Putin deciding to retire to his massive mansion would be entirely bloodless, you know, aside from all the poor bastards he sent off to die in Ukraine so he can fantasize about Russia being as powerful as the Soviet Union was.

Correct, you speak in bullshit would be more accurate:

Putin being forced out of the government, even if it's literally just him retiring to his massive mansion instead of anything involving violence, is about the only way Russia makes it out of this relatively unscathed.

Not only are you absolutely lying now about Putin "retiring", given you clearly cited it as a range of options including violent regime change, you specifically said Russia-not Putin-would have to have him removed to come out of this "relatively unscathed". You're full of it, and that's why you've changed your tone now.

Yeah, we certainly wouldn't want a defensive alliance to keep us or any of our friends from getting attacked by someone like Russia.

The alliance that threw Libya into a Civil War and backed Islamists in Syria that resulted in ISIS? Yeah, may it be destroyed and every single element of it humiliated and destroyed for its numerous crimes.

In other words a line of bullshit other Putin fanbois have brought up as a common defense of their idiocy.

Which I've never stated, so a self admitted strawman. By all means, quote me where I said it if you feel otherwise.

There is nothing fake about how incensed I am that you would cheer for the deaths of others who have certainly never done you any harm, nor about all the people whose lives are being taken.

Yeah, it's fake; if you actually cared about those whose lives were being taken you wouldn't support Ukraine, not after what happened in Odessa in May of 2014 or what the Ukrainian Army was doing in Donbass the past eight years. Anybody who willfully signs up to fight for Ukraine has indicated they either don't care or support these actions; I hope they all come home in body bags, every single one of them.

And in your case, that programming would be "NATO bad" "Putin based." 🤖

The fact you seem incapable of understanding the meme really just drives how applicable it was to you. Putin based is not the societal line, is it?

As opposed to some edgy boi who talks shit on some internet forum?

Then are you posting from Lvov?

 

[Captain X]

Correct, you speak in bullshit would be more accurate:

Not only are you absolutely lying now about Putin "retiring", given you clearly cited it as a range of options including violent regime change, you specifically said Russia-not Putin-would have to have him removed to come out of this "relatively unscathed". You're full of it, and that's why you've changed your tone now.

No, this would be you projecting.

Which I've never stated

And?

Yeah, it's fake; if you actually cared about those whose lives were being taken you wouldn't support Ukraine, not after what happened in Odessa in May of 2014 or what the Ukrainian Army was doing in Donbass the past eight years. Anybody who willfully signs up to fight for Ukraine has indicated they either don't care or support these actions; I hope they all come home in body bags, every single one of them.

And it's pretty obvious you're just repeating talking points.

The fact you seem incapable of understanding the meme really just drives how applicable it was to you. Putin based is not the societal line, is it?

Cope harder. Are you at least still capable of some introspection, or are you just gone?

 

[Marduk]

I’m enjoying watching Ukraine get the shit beat out of it and the only thing NATO fans can do is whine impotently on the sidelines.

Don't cut yourself on that edge. Such rebel. Much nonconformism.

So "brave" that the ones who weren't reduced to a fine mist in Lvov promptly fled back to Poland. If they are your ideal, that's rather telling I would think.

They signed up for a side that in 2014-2015 was quite literally crucifying ethnic Russians and setting them on fire among other horrific shit, so don't sit here and pearl clutch with me. My only regret is the Russians reduced them to ground beef via Kaliber strike rather than captured them and sent them to the gallows after a trial making their crimes public for all to see for posterity.

Apparently believing Russian propaganda is what the cool edgy kids do these days.
Oh, wait...

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[ATP]

I’m enjoying watching Ukraine get the shit beat out of it and the only thing NATO fans can do is whine impotently on the sidelines.

Apart of enjoying watching like people die defending their homes from agressor - Why KGBstan do not win yet,and from 2 weeks do not achieved anything there?
either russian army is dying there,too,becouse Putin is incopetent,or they are dying there becouse KGB need russian army killed.
Becouse otherwise they could made putch and save Mother Russia.

P.S Even if KGBstan was winning,you still should not cheer on them - they are fanboys of soviets,and soviets wonted entire world.
Which include your country.If Putin was that competent as you say,you would be next to gulag.

 

[Arch Dornan]

The fuck is wrong with some of you people? Seriously.

War brings out the worst in people.

 

[Agent23]

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Since you are going to ree about everyone who disagrees with you being a Commie/Russian bot I shall be forced to go down to your level!
Here, a summary of all your arguments in 3 images.

 

[Sobek]

Again, I kinda don't give a shit about either.

The state of the War so far: