Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

[Zachowon]

That’s not what the news outlets have been saying.

Javelin Anti-Tank Missiles Get Biden Nod as Ukraine Depletes U.S. Stash

President Joe Biden stressed the importance of U.S. and allied weapons for Ukraine’s defense Tuesday with a visit to a Lockheed Martin Corp. plant making Javelin anti-tank missiles, which American and NATO officials say have mauled Russia’s invading armored columns.

www.bloomberg.com

They’d better ramp up production. Javelins are always nice to have.

You do know we can ramp up production if we absolutely need the stuff right?

 

[Iconoclast]

You do know we can ramp up production if we absolutely need the stuff right?

Yeah, that's what I said. It takes time, though. If things keep going like this, there's going to be a lag period where we have like, no Javelins.

 

[Zachowon]

Yeah, that's what I said. It takes time, though. If things keep going like this, there's going to be a lag period where we have like, no Javelins.

No. We will have Javelins.
Do you think we are going to give all?
Plus if we need them there won't be lag

 

[Husky_Khan]

Putin had to intercede personally to avoid pushing the Jewish State of Israel into fully supporting the Neo-Nazi Regime of Ukraine.

So sorry Wehraboos. You won't see Russian speaking Slavic Nazis dropping Harops Drones and Spike ATGMs on late model T-90s.... Yet.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-putin-sends-herzog-independence-day-wishes-amid-spat-over-russia-s-nazi-comments-1.10781843

 

[Blasterbot]

You do know we can ramp up production if we absolutely need the stuff right?

oh cool we gonna print even more money to pay for that shit? great plan. the best plan. there is no way that will backfire. it isn't like we are on a crunch for resources right now and we can totally afford to just throw more money into yet another black hole of spending on a foreign war.

 

[Zachowon]

oh cool we gonna print even more money to pay for that shit? great plan. the best plan. there is no way that will backfire. it isn't like we are on a crunch for resources right now and we can totally afford to just throw more money into yet another black hole of spending on a foreign war.

I mean if we have to for our military.
We won't go total war production to help another country

 

[Blasterbot]

I mean if we have to for our military.
We won't go total war production to help another country

do you not understand just how far the economy has overstretched? we gonna have a very hard snap back and trying to go further isn't gonna end well.

 

[Zachowon]

do you not understand just how far the economy has overstretched? we gonna have a very hard snap back and trying to go further isn't gonna end well.

Ww2 brought us out if a depression....

 

[Marduk]

Unless the goal was also to deplete the West's stockpile of weapons to make us vulnerable to attack.



Possible. We'll see.

Attack... by who? This may be the case of bureaucracy not catching up with facts on the ground.
When it comes to portable anti tank weapons especially, whose military equipment list do you think was the biggest influence in establishing the required size of the stockpile?
Don't you think its the one that these missiles are being used to reduce already?
Do you need missiles stockpiled to destroy potential enemy tanks that were just destroyed with said missiles by someone else?

 

[Zachowon]

Attack... by who? This may be the case of bureaucracy not catching up with facts on the ground.
When it comes to portable anti tank weapons especially, whose military equipment list do you think was the biggest influence in establishing the required size of the stockpile?
Don't you think its the one that these missiles are being used to reduce already?
Do you need missiles stockpiled to destroy potential enemy tanks that were just destroyed with said missiles by someone else?

China I guess is who he is talking about?
A further untrained and inexperienced military

 

[Marduk]

China I guess is who he is talking about?
A further untrained and inexperienced military

Its not like they are going to drive whole divisions of tanks across the Pacific. Or even Taiwan Strait.

 

[Zachowon]

Its not like they are going to drive whole divisions of tanks across the Pacific. Or even Taiwan Strait.

Hey, you never know. Ever play World in Conflict? They could use freight ships

 

[Blasterbot]

Ww2 brought us out if a depression....

it really didn't. the rest of the world just got fucked by it way worse than we did. at the end of the war we had a worse economy than at the start.

 

[Bacle]

Fucking seriously?!

 

[PsihoKekec]

Kiev Independent is a propagandist rag, prone to outright lying, so it would be good to know which exact Ukrainian symbols were really banned, wouldn't be surprised if it was actually flags with wolfsangel, which is banned in Germany as nazi symbol and Independent omitting that little fact for propaganda purposes.

 

[Marduk]

Kiev Independent is a propagandist rag, prone to outright lying, so it would be good to know which exact Ukrainian symbols were really banned, wouldn't be surprised if it was actually flags with wolfsangel, which is banned in Germany as nazi symbol and Independent omitting that little fact for propaganda purposes.

Polish mainstream media confirm.

Zakaz noszenia ukraińskich flag w Berlinie. Melnyk wściekły

W Berlinie wprowadzono m.in. zakaz eksponowania 8 i 9 maja flag i symboli Ukrainy i Rosji

wpolityce-pl.translate.goog

Apparently it applies to places to places close to the Russian May 9 celebrations, and apparently the official motivation is to avoid street conflict and provocations.

 

[PsihoKekec]

So they banned the flags of both countries for the 8th and 9th of may, not surprised kp failed to mention that.

 

[Marduk]

Finally someone made a poll about a question that was asked often here and everywhere else.

Funny how the pattern shows a decent proportionality to reliance on deals with Russia.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I guess Finland still wants Karelia back.

 

[Cherico]

I guess Finland still wants Karelia back.

In general the closer you get to Russia the more warry you are of russians.