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WolfBear

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Ah, to have the City once again in the hands of Godly men.

To worship once more at the Hagia Sophia.

I'll convert to Greek Orthodoxy if the City gets taken back.

Bet.
Had Russia avoided going Red during WWI, Constantinople would likely have either become Russian or been turned into an international/League of Nations zone a la Danzig.
 

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And for good reason.
Memes are incompatible with walls of text
Woke cultists are detached from reality, such that without a wall of text to explain the necessary doublethink, any leftist meme attempt will simply fall flat.
Either people draw the "wrong" conclusions. Or they are completely baffled by how nonsensical it is.
 

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And for good reason.
Memes are incompatible with walls of text
Woke cultists are detached from reality, such that without a wall of text to explain the necessary doublethink, any leftist meme attempt will simply fall flat.
Either people draw the "wrong" conclusions. Or they are completely baffled by how nonsensical it is.
This is exactly it. Memes work because they can convey a lot of information in a super quick format, and you can't do that quick format when you have to use a wall of text to explain your doublethink. And that's why leftist memes usually fall flat.
 

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That doesn't actually work. I literally just did an overly generous calculation, where I used 2021 murder counts for those metro areas, a 2019 count of total murders, and a current population estimate not even excluding those cities, and still got a murder rate of 4.33/100k, which puts us in the bottom 80. National data from wolfram alpha, city data from here.
 

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That doesn't actually work. I literally just did an overly generous calculation, where I used 2021 murder counts for those metro areas, a 2019 count of total murders, and a current population estimate not even excluding those cities, and still got a murder rate of 4.33/100k, which puts us in the bottom 80. National data from wolfram alpha, city data from here.
Still better then current numbers
 

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That doesn't actually work. I literally just did an overly generous calculation, where I used 2021 murder counts for those metro areas, a 2019 count of total murders, and a current population estimate not even excluding those cities, and still got a murder rate of 4.33/100k, which puts us in the bottom 80. National data from wolfram alpha, city data from here.
murder rate has gone up since the pandemic and the lock downs.
 

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That doesn't actually work. I literally just did an overly generous calculation, where I used 2021 murder counts for those metro areas, a 2019 count of total murders, and a current population estimate not even excluding those cities, and still got a murder rate of 4.33/100k, which puts us in the bottom 80. National data from wolfram alpha, city data from here.
This is kind of like the fact-checks that 'owned' Trump.

The specific claim made was off, but the actual truth still supports the core message;

Gun control makes things worse, not better.
 

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Still better then current numbers
I mean obviously, I cheated heavily to get such a low number, it better look good compared to what the US is doing now. And it still ain't good compared to the world.
murder rate has gone up since the pandemic and the lock downs.
Already factored in, as I pointed out. I used a small murder count from 2019 (slightly above 16k) for the US's base line, and subtracted from it a larger than it should be number of murders by using 2021 data for the 5 cities (totaling a little over 2k IIRC), resulting in a way too small number for "US murders per year not including those 5 cities". I then divided this number by the current US population (including the 5 cities, which is even more generous). I still got 4.33, which is way down from 4th place. It's 100+ place.

To get in 4th place out of 197 is absurd by the way. 1, 2, 3 are a 3 way tie for 0 murders per year total with the Vatican, Monaco, and San Marino, and I'm ignoring the Isle of Man, St Helens, and a few other places as not real countries. Then there's places like Luxembourg with 1 total murder that we'd have to beat. It just ain't happening, the person who wrote this lied. There are a ton of countries less than 1/100k, and we ain't hitting that.

We also have nowhere near the 3rd highest murder rate in the world as well.
This is kind of like the fact-checks that 'owned' Trump.

The specific claim made was off, but the actual truth still supports the core message;

Gun control makes things worse, not better.


Not quite the meme I was looking for, but the quote is a problem even if you are morally correct. Facts matter. Truth matters.
 
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