Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming

[Bacle]

this happens one of two way
1) best case for the group: gateway pundit is such a rag no one can be reasonable expected to believe anything printed in it as such this is legally just bad comedy

2) if there is any justice left in this world these dumb mother fuckers sign their names to paper and try atesting to any of this in court,.

Yes, we know it is standard leftist methodology to try to sue people into silence when they out things inconvenient to the Dems preferred narrative.

And the article and video are only confirming what was already known about Pelosi and Milley's denying Trump Nat Guard that day.

Of course you are also hoping no one takes it seriously, and treating the Gateway Pundit as a rag, because this is yet another case of the non-mainstream media outing things the mass media worked together to lie about and suppress.

 

[Sobek]

this happens one of two way
1) best case for the group: gateway pundit is such a rag no one can be reasonable expected to believe anything printed in it as such this is legally just bad comedy

2) if there is any justice left in this world these dumb mother fuckers sign their names to paper and try atesting to any of this in court,.

Yes, we know it is standard leftist methodology to try to sue people into silence when they out things inconvenient to the Dems preferred narrative.

And the article and video are only confirming what was already known about Pelosi and Milley's denying Trump Nat Guard that day.

Of course you are also hoping no one takes it seriously, and treating the Gateway Pundit as a rag, because this is yet another case of the non-mainstream media outing things the mass media worked together to lie about and suppress.

Yep it's pretty obvious he doesn't have any arguments and is simply doing some cope. You can tell pretty easy how simple his programming is by how the will ignore points and questions raised to instead repeat lines.

 

[WolfBear]

PROOF that Pelosi and Democrats Set Up Legal Protestors Who Were Issued Permits on January 6th by denying Trump’s Already Authorized National Guardsmen (VIDEO)

PROOF that Pelosi and Democrats Set Up Legal Protestors Who Were Issued Permits on January 6th by denying Trump’s Already Authorized National Guardsmen (VIDEO) | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

On Wednesday, we ran a guest column from a friend of The Gateway Pundit, Ali Alexander, a January 6th permit holder and organizer behind the post-Election Day “Stop the Steal” protests that peacefully swept the country.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

So, when's this evidence going to reach the government and/or the courts? I mean, surely the Right should use any new information that portrays the Left in a worse light, no?

 

[Sobek]

Probably never for the simple fact the government and courts already decided that Jan 6th was literally 9/11 and no amount of evidence proves otherwise. We all saw how they simply ignore Ray Epps and how the FBI simply refuses to share what they know publicly.

 

[WolfBear]

Probably never for the simple fact the government and courts already decided that Jan 6th was literally 9/11 and no amount of evidence proves otherwise. We all saw how they simply ignore Ray Epps and how the FBI simply refuses to share what they know publicly.

Well, a future GOP President should be more sympathetic to this, especially with a conservative-leaning SCOTUS--no?

 

[Battlegrinder]

what the hell is that bullshit. I mean seriously how is that allowed to be published? This is libel at best if not criminal fraud. I hope these fucks have a lawyer

Um.....no? Skimming through thier links, it all appears to be sourced enough to stand up. There's certainly spin (ie, the "Pelosi called for violence" bit is linked a pre-riot video of her saying she'd punch Trump if he showed up in the capital building), but it appears to be true enough to not be libelous.

What are you actually seeing here that you think is fraud?

this happens one of two way
1) best case for the group: gateway pundit is such a rag no one can be reasonable expected to believe anything printed in it as such this is legally just bad comedy

The pundit doesn't seem to be wildly out of step with the rest of the media as far as spin goes.

2) if there is any justice left in this world these dumb mother fuckers sign their names to paper and try atesting to any of this in court,.

Yes, let's throw journalists in jail for partisan spin, that's definitely not a ruleset that could bite your side in the ass. Remember, say, that story the whole media jumped in on Trump supposedly made disparaging remarks about the US soldiers that died on D-Day, and then everyone with personal knowledge of the event said "WTF? No that never happened" and the media wad unable to prove otherwise?

How many people would be in jail under this ruleset?

 

[Sobek]

Well, a future GOP President should be more sympathetic to this, especially with a conservative-leaning SCOTUS--no?

One can hope so. Maybe after the midterms if there isn't some truly absurd fortification there can be progress.

 

[Proxy 404]

Um.....no? Skimming through thier links, it all appears to be sourced enough to stand up. There's certainly spin (ie, the "Pelosi called for violence" bit is linked a pre-riot video of her saying she'd punch Trump if he showed up in the capital building), but it appears to be true enough to not be libelous.

What are you actually seeing here that you think is fraud?



The pundit doesn't seem to be wildly out of step with the rest of the media as far as spin goes.



Yes, let's throw journalists in jail for partisan spin, that's definitely not a ruleset that could bite your side in the ass. Remember, say, that story the whole media jumped in on Trump supposedly made disparaging remarks about the US soldiers that died on D-Day, and then everyone with personal knowledge of the event said "WTF? No that never happened" and the media wad unable to prove otherwise?

How many people would be in jail under this ruleset?

right sorry I said anything not like it matters

 

[LordsFire]

right sorry I said anything not like it matters

It does matter. What you said demonstrates that you possess the same kind of authoritarian knee-jerk reactions common to much of the political left.

There's a reason all the harshest forms of tyranny have come from the left end of the political spectrum, you're demonstrating that rather well, I think.

 

[Zyobot]

It does matter. What you said demonstrates that you possess the same kind of authoritarian knee-jerk reactions common to much of the political left.

There's a reason all the harshest forms of tyranny have come from the left end of the political spectrum, you're demonstrating that rather well, I think.

Just wait ’til he comes back with: “But the Nazis were far-right, and they were the worst of them all!”

Of course, even if that were true, that still ignores how communist regimes — which, though much less inclined to set up straight-up death factories or deliberately exterminate “inferior” groups wholesale — also existed, and were ultimately more successful oppressors and mass-murderers than the Third Reich ever was. In which case, I’d very much like to debate what the right metric for “worst” is, though I suppose I’m drifting off-topic now.

 

[Wargamer08]

It does matter. What you said demonstrates that you possess the same kind of authoritarian knee-jerk reactions common to much of the political left.

There's a reason all the harshest forms of tyranny have come from the left end of the political spectrum, you're demonstrating that rather well, I think.

"But the sides/parties were switched then!"

 

[Battlegrinder]

Even if we were to handwave and dismiss ALL that....several states changed their election laws in an illegal manner shortly before the election.

They did it openly and in public view. This is not a contested fact. It's reality.

This alone, could have been enough to rig the election.

So even if we ignore ALL that other stuff, here's one smoking gun that's out in the open that cannot be denied.

But oh noes, some lefties who were never going to vote for the GOP in the first place might think we look bad if we talk about it.

There is a clear difference between "democrats rigged the game by running the election under illegal rules they crammed through under the excuse of covid, and then under those rules Biden won", and the ever shifting morass of "evidence" that people like Bacle keep waving around, which two years later is still just a bunch of disconnected claims that constantly vanish after being debunked and are replaced with new ones. "They made people use sharpies so the votes didn't count!", "oh, snap, that never happened, uh they dumped a of ballots in the middle of the night!", "oh, that's bunk too....uh, a postal worker mishandled some mailbags!", "wait, that didn't change anything....uh we found 2000 mules that moved votes around", "oh, wait, that's all BS to.....uh, let's audit the election!", "crap, Biden won after the recount and also our handpicked auditors are clowns and thier report is full of nonsense", and pretty soon there will be some other thing.

I cam recognize people desperately wanting to reach some pre-determined conclusion, and getting strung along by a series of grifters feeding them lies to keep the money flowing (we all sgoyld,should, this is exactly what happened to the left with the phony "Russia Collusion" crap). The fact that, after two years, there's still no coherent theory about what happened, no effort to lay out a theory of the crime and make a case to people for what happened, how, etc. It's all just "There's so much evidence!!" And them I'm supposed to build you case for you. The Russia grifters put in more effort than that.

Instead it's all crap like this:

pretend the audit in AZ didn't find a lot of fuckery,

The one that was factually wrong at numerous points (and if you dispute the findings off the officials who found fault with the audit....on what basis, Mr Random Guy From The Internet With No Relevant Expertise Whatsoever?), and still concluded Biden won, by a higher figure than the official result?

lets ignore the election worker data being sent to the CCP,

And this proves....what? That they blackmailed a bunch of them into swinging the election for Biden? This is the problem with all your "evidence", you just go "this weird thing might have happened, therefore Trump actually won because reasons".

lets ignore the glowies on Jan 6th,

The ones that.....time traveled back to November 8th and rigged the election? What relevance does the riot have to the election that preceeded it?

let's ignore Robert's forcing SCOTUS to not even look at election cases at the discovery level,

I think you mean before they even got to discovery, which was the right call. You have to prove a likelihood of success on the merits before you get to discovery, you can't sue people on the off chance they're guilty and then go looking for evidence to prove it.

before the election on 'lack of standing' and afterwards on 'mootness',

Yes, the courts ducked out of resolving a number of issues because they didn't want to be seen meddling (and also because many of the cases filed were moot, by people that lacked standing, or just flat out baseless). That's bad. But it doesn't prove that Trump actually won.

and let's pretend that you aren't knowingly gaslighting a large part of this board with your 'Trump lost legitly'

The fact that you lose your mind when I tell you things you don't want to hear is not my problem or fault.

when you know we have evidence to the contrary on this very board, and plenty of other folks have their own pieces of evidence.

I'm fully aware you have "evidence". I just think it's all crap evidence that doesn't prove anything, and that your side's refusal to actually use this evidence to build a case and instead using it as a rethorical bludgeon further proves the hollowness of your claim.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

this happens one of two way
1) best case for the group: gateway pundit is such a rag no one can be reasonable expected to believe anything printed in it as such this is legally just bad comedy

2) if there is any justice left in this world these dumb mother fuckers sign their names to paper and try atesting to any of this in court,.

This is a preposterous position to hold, one founded in ignorance of the 1A and emotions and little else.

 

[Proxy 404]

This is a preposterous position to hold, one founded in ignorance of the 1A and emotions and little else.

well you would be the be subject mater expert on preposterous positions to hold
OtOH that is the defense most folks caught spreading disinfo for profit default to, well it's the one that has worked for Fox and Jones in the past, then again that seems to be changing finally

 

[Battlegrinder]

well you would be the be subject mater expert on preposterous positions to hold
OtOH that is the defense most folks caught spreading disinfo for profit default to, well it's the one that has worked for Fox and Jones in the past, then again that seems to be changing finally

"This isn't just purely facts, it's commentary and opinion in reaction to the facts" is not a defense unique to Fox or Jones, it's one journalists across the political spectrum have used repeatedly.

 

[Proxy 404]

"This isn't just purely facts, it's commentary and opinion in reaction to the facts" is not a defense unique to Fox or Jones, it's one journalists across the political spectrum have used repeatedly.

OAN? yeah they are trash but they have only ever been a bought and paid for pr organ of click of rich people I mean they don't' try very hard to hide it not surprising their slap law suit got laughed out of court

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

well you would be the be subject mater expert on preposterous positions to hold

Lmao. Okay dude, you aren't even able to make a post without deleting it two seconds later but whatever.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Anyone who thinks a Judge legitimately involved in child trafficking arbitrarily declaring a shock jock guilty is evidence of anything other than the total illegitimate of our modern legal system is a little silly.

 

[Proxy 404]

Anyone who thinks a Judge legitimately involved in child trafficking arbitrarily declaring a shock jock guilty is evidence of anything other than the total illegitimate of our modern legal system is a little silly.

Could you explain that so someone can parse it without doing 6 weeks of background research? just the basic context of what you are saying

 

[Battlegrinder]

OAN? yeah they are trash but they have only ever been a bought and paid for pr organ of click of rich people I mean they don't' try very hard to hide it not surprising their slap law suit got laughed out of court

So, when Fox says "hey, this isn't supposed to be 100% truth, it's just Tucker's opinion and not meant to be taken as literal truth", that's a lame defense of speaking false information for profit that shouldn't have worked.

When MSNBC says the exact same thing in defense, then they should win because it's a bogus SLAPP suit.

Care to explain how that's not a double standard based on nothing more than partisanship?