Quest Deep Periphery Quest (Battletech Sandbox Empire Builder)

mmgaballah

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I'm wondering if what's happening is we are chewing through all their mothballed ships and are just now running into the new stuff being built.
that doesn't change the fact that for every mothballed ship they reactivate they would need to refurbish them to deal with wear and tear of time passing and as well as dedicate facilities to supply and maintain them , facilities that would be other wise used to build new ships , which bring in my original question were the hell are those facilities coming from ? there is no way they are using yardships for everything their capacity as a yard is massively undermined by the compromises of also being a ship
 

Kilvanya

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that doesn't change the fact that for every mothballed ship they reactivate they would need to refurbish them to deal with wear and tear of time passing and as well as dedicate facilities to supply and maintain them , facilities that would be other wise used to build new ships , which bring in my original question were the hell are those facilities coming from ? there is no way they are using yardships for everything their capacity as a yard is massively undermined by the compromises of also being a ship

Ooor they ended up with jumping shipyards, not yardships but full on stations that can jump
 

mmgaballah

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Ooor they ended up with jumping shipyards, not yardships but full on stations that can jump
but why haven't we seen them then ? , we have disrupted their resource harvesting ops multiple times and if they had large mobile facilities it would make logistical sense to bring them where the resources are being harvested to save on time ,resources and ships that would be needed to bring the mine's goods to them
 
Turn 98 - There Lived A Certain Man

LordSunhawk

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Turn 98 - There Lived A Certain Man

You get one piece of very welcome news in early January as the New Castor system is officially declared to have attained core world status, raising the number of core worlds in the empire to an even dozen. At the very least this will allow for even more naval construction, which is quite welcome.

The Department of Periphery Studies is suspiciously quiet right now, you are rather worried over what this may foretell. Like little children, the tenured professors of that department are at their most dangerous when quiet.

Speaking of children, your eldest daughter is now racing in the next highest league of the junior racing leagues, and has started in small ‘midgets’ on dirt tracks as well. You are getting to spend quite a bit of time out in public with the ‘common’ folk, and are enjoying yourself immensely.

A motorcycle company based on Nowa Warszawa has released their latest model which has caught the public’s imagination Empire wide. The sleek design looks like something out of an action-adventure thriller with aggressive styling and all of the techie toys built in, including a fully holographic HUD for the rider. The best part is that, despite how aggressive and sleek the bike is, the built in safety systems massively exceed all requirements and include a highly adaptive stability assistance system to prevent loss of control across all speed ranges and surfaces. In one of the advertisements for the company a test rider attempts to crash the thing and is unable to do so despite his best efforts, claims which have been substantiated in official testing by Imperial Health & Safety experts.

All in all it is very impressive, and you most certainly do not have one of the early production models in the Palace garage and definitely haven’t ridden it around at absurd speeds both on the road and on the track. You are a proper monarch who would never do such silly things. The one in the garage is clearly your loving husband’s property, not yours. Or maybe Tiberius’, but definitely not yours. And, most importantly, your driving record is the best since your great-grandmother’s, so you couldn’t possibly be the one driving it around like that.

That’s your story and you are sticking to it.

No, you are not channeling your great-grandmother, stop it.

Seriously. Stop it.

OK, you may occasionally borrow your husband’s bike to drive in a safe, sensible, and sedate manner as befits a lady. And you will point out that you have never once received a single traffic citation concerning the manner of your driving, thank you very much.

And no, this is not because you are the Empress and thus immune to such things, that would be silly.

The crippled and damaged units from the Battle of Feurstem have been recovered and repaired, allowing you to once more field the Grand Fleet, even though Admiral von Falkenrick, your most successful combat commander, is still on medical leave this year.

Admiral Fisher has sent you a memo that, pending testing of the Hosho-class Light Carrier, that two additional designs, the White Plains-class Escort Carrier based on a destroyer hull and the Saratoga-class Fleet Carrier, based on a battlecruiser hull, will be placed in production. The design work has been completed, but the Navy is waiting for the results of operational testing before authorizing construction in hopes of minimizing risk as much as possible. He also informs you that they have tentative designs for the future battleships, but those are mostly paper studies at this point.

General Bradley also sends you a memo, informing you that the reorganization of the Army is nearly complete and that next year they will begin requesting procurement of additional formations. Initially this will primarily be defensive in nature, according to the memo, as the Army wishes to have at least one Infantry Division in each system, however you currently only have 24 of them compared to 36 inhabited systems. She points out that at current production levels this will take a minimum of 12 years assuming no further growth, as you can only procure a single such division each year due to limitations in Ferro Fibrous armor production.

You ponder the issue for a while, then summon Elizabeth Lee and Grace Rivas, your Interior and Research Ministers respectively, for a brainstorming session to see if there might be some way around this. Partway through the meeting Tiberius is summoned, and since he’d not known he was about to be called in he didn’t have the chance to do something outrageously silly.

The four of you spend several days working on this situation. It’s a rather thorny one, as any solution would very likely be very expensive indeed, if it is even viable in the first place. Some of the thoughts include a massive construction program of new orbital factories across the Empire, or licensing strategic material production to the private sector at the increased risk of outside elements being able to steal the technologies for their own use. Every proposal has upsides and downsides, balancing these to find something usable is the real challenge.

The upshot is a solution that appears to be acceptably viable, if expensive in terms of manpower and money. It would require all four of the available R&D teams to focus on it, and be rather expensive, but the end result should be effective. In the decades since the orbital factories were first designed there have been many advances in materials sciences and knowledge of orbital infrastructure. While the orbital factories make some use of these advances, there are certain greater efficiencies that can be found. The challenge is that it would be expensive to both research and implement the changes across the Empire, but the benefit would be significantly increased production numbers for strategic materials across the board.

[]ActionResult
[]Implement Orbital Factory Upgrades
  • Cost - $198,000,000,000.00
    • NOTE - available funds after existing projects is currently great than $415 billion
  • Increases Industrial Efficiency modifier to 4 from 3
  • Slightly increases Orbital upkeep (note, you are currently benefiting from double dipping certain cost reductions, that will continue)
  • Uses 4 R&D teams, making them unavailable this turn, but they will be available next turn
[]Patience is a virtue
  • +1 Politics
  • +1 Research Event
 

The Whispering Monk

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Considering this will clear out one of our major bottlenecks...I'm tempted to say yes to this.

@Jarow
You're the one keeping track of expenses/costs/projects the closest. Anything critical we won't be able to do if we spend the 198B?
 
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Jarow

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Tell us Jarow, what do your spreadsheets see?
After procurement estimate, ongoing actions, and near-certain repeated actions, we'd be at ~190b for the rest of the turn. Which is a bit less than I'd prefer, but taking away 4 research slots (combined with only our planetary optimization DoME slot being open there) means we don't have many individually expensive projects coming up, so it should be fine. 31 general slots and whatever changes in procurement shouldn't leave us with problems (unless other expensive events pop up before then).

[X]Implement Orbital Factory Upgrades
 

Yacovo

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[X]Implement Orbital Factory Upgrades

Thank you Jarrow. Your ability to parse the Byzantine maze the spreadsheets of this quest have become never ceases to amaze me.
 
Turn 98 - He Ruled The Russian Land

LordSunhawk

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Turn 98 - He Ruled The Russian Land

A rather grim-faced General Messerschmidt, accompanied by your Justice Minister Martina Kalinowski, comes in to brief you on the fallout from the Skala situation.

“Your Majesty, I take full responsibility for this failure.” Messerschmidt says as soon as the meeting starts. “Our counterintelligence efforts have been fully aimed at securing our secrets, not at dealing with revolutionary agitators who make absolutely no attempt to communicate back to their home nation. The Rouges Noir are simply not interested at all in our secrets, rather they only care about spreading their particular brand of insanity to the entire galaxy with a religious fervor. If billions have to die to achieve their goals, they consider that perfectly acceptable, indeed desirable, because to them mass death is the only way to ‘glorify the Revolution in Blood’.”

He looks rather disgusted. “They are very plausible people, professing their innocence and goodwill, right up until the moment they realize you aren’t buying their act at all, at which point they become frothing lunatics. We’ve lost several interrogators early on to them when they would suddenly go berserk, since then we changed procedures to ensure that they are kept completely secured the entire time and separated from any potential victims by solid barriers. Thankfully the patsies they’ve been grooming are less fanatical once separated from them, which is a significant relief.”

Martina takes up the narrative. “Where things become extremely complicated, from a legal perspective, is that simply advocating a social, political, or religious system, no matter how horrific, is not illegal. Even recruiting people to their cult is not, in fact, a crime in and of itself even though we know that they fully intend to commit acts fo violence and terrorism. Until they actually make concrete plans for doing so, legally speaking our hands are tied. On the other hand, we know based on surveillance and discussions with the Bourbons, the NRR, and the NRI that every single Rouges Noir ‘refugee’ is, in fact, a trained agitator and recruiter for their movement, those who aren’t fanatical true believers are killed before they can become ‘refugees’. As such, an argument could be made that they entered the Empire under false pretenses, and as such we could simply round them up on those grounds, block future ‘refugees’, and handle the issue that way.”

She pauses for a moment, looking grim. “The problem is that they are very plausible people, very skilled at putting up a false front and saying all of the right words. In effect, they treat our refugee rules as magical formulas, to be recited to allow them in, without the slightest bit of shame or hesitation in lying through their teeth. They are so good at this, in fact, that they can fool even grifftigers as to their sincerity, at least until the mask slips.”

They’re right, this is a very thorny problem. In effect, the relatively small number of Rouges Noir ‘refugees’ who’d entered the Empire already are working at forming fifth columns throughout the Empire, but are doing so in a way that uses your own laws against you. Preemptively acting against them would be risky insofar as they can claim that you are acting in a tyrannical manner, which would ironically strengthen the belief of their patsies. You can certainly limit the damage by preventing any future ‘refugees’ from entering in the first place, but the troubles on Skala were caused by just a pair of Rouges Noir fanatics who’d built up networks of young idealistic idiots who in turn radicalized even more people in a geometric progression which led to millions dead. There were similar such movements in multiple systems, although to be fair many of the most militant of the patsies had flocked to Skala to ‘join the revolution!’.

General Messerschmidt gives you a very level look. “There are three ways we can handle this, Your Majesty. First, we can prevent future ‘refugees’ easily enough, and monitor the existing ones and their idiots, acting against them as soon as we have actionable criminal actions. Second, we can invoke Imperial security and have the ‘refugees’ rounded up and deported on national security grounds, absorbing the outcry among the morons of the Empire.” He pauses, looks over at Martina, who is looking uncomfortable, then continues. “Or we can be more subtle than that. Or we can be both more subtle and more ruthless, there are less than a hundred of the bastards, their inner circles aren’t much larger than that. Unleash the Special Branch on them to terminate them with extreme prejudice and maximum deniability. Cut off the head of the beast and the body will flop around for a bit, flailing ineffectually, before expiring either in a whimper or a flash in the pan.”

Martina takes a deep breath. “The last option is technically legal and within the Special Branch’s remit, but it is technically issuing kill orders outside of the ordinary judicial process. I’d be lying if I said I was fully comfortable with that, Your Majesty, but it is a power and authority reserved to the Crown and thus lawful, if somewhat heavy-handed. While this is the sort of situation where such authority is likely the best solution, I worry that this may lead to, well, future temptation to short-circuit the judicial process.”

That’s a sobering thought. Power of this nature is seductive, to be able to simply decree that an enemy die, removing them from the gameboard at your own whim, is very tempting. You can understand Martina’s concern, after all there are examples from your own family history, your great-great-great-grandfather, for example, of precisely this sort of thing. On the flip side, you would be risking more Skala’s, perhaps with even higher death tolls.
[]ActionArgumentEffects
[]Simply close the border to future Rouges Noir ‘refugees’It sucks, but we now know who to watch and what to watch for, so we shouldn’t be caught flat-footed like we were in Skala. While there is a heightened risk of outbreaks of revolutionary violence, it is important to be seen as restrained and judicious rather than intemperate.
  • +1 Approval Change
  • +1 Politics
  • Continues event chain along path A
[]Close the border and openly arrest all existing ‘refugees’ for deportation from the EmpireWe should bite the bullet, publicly proclaim the situation, round up the ‘refugees’ and eject them from the Empire. This will no doubt cause short-term issues with their supporters, but ultimately the people will know that we are acting in their best interest and for the protection of their way of life.
  • +1 Politics
  • -1 Approval Change
  • Continues event chain along path B
[]Unleash the Kraken… I mean the Special BranchThis is what the Special Branch is for, solving problems which have no easy solution. Terminating the Rouges Noir refugees and their closest supporters, especially if done in a way that would tend to undermine their movement as a whole, would fall into this category. The Special Branch are exceptional at what they do, they are troubleshooters who, when finding trouble, shoot it.
  • -1 Approval Change
  • -1 Politics
  • Continues event chain along path C
 

ShadowArxxy

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[X] Unleash the Kraken. . . I mean the Special Branch

As has been said, this is part of what black ops units are *for*, and there's a reason even the most ethical nation-state has them. In this case, it's clearly justified, and this is also part of why we're a constitutional empire and not a straight up democratic republic.
 

apollo92

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[X] Unleash the Kraken. . . I mean the Special Branch

"No mercy."
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The Whispering Monk

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We'll also need to close down the refugee program. Doing that would alert the RogNoir operatives, but it's a necessary step that's not mentioned in plan Kraken.

Recommend that we quietly implement a shut down of refugee admittance INTO our empire, but allow the RogNoir to believe we're still accepting them. We'll accept every person they give us...and then place them in a penal colony for interrogation.

[X] Unleash the Kraken. . . I mean the Special Branch
[X] "Yeeeeeeeessssss, we welcome all your refugees." <Evil Cackle>
 

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