Confederate Flags banned in the Military
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Circle of Willis
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Every time I've posted in a thread that has anything to do with the Confederates here I've never been shy about my Union sympathies, but yeah holy shit, literally digging up & desecrating the dead is a bridge way too far. It calls to mind a sentiment I've seen in some far-left echochambers online: the sort of histrionic leftist psycho who cannot make peace with history as the real-life soldiers of the Civil War did with one another, who the real Radical Republicans would shoot in a fury for advocating subjecting the entire post-war South to the Haiti treatment, and who holds nothing but contempt for the average white Southerner today if they don't think the latter should just be packed off to a death camp.
Everyone who said this wouldn't stop at statues being taken down has just been proven to be 100% right.
Sergeant Foley
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I openly DESPISE the Confederate flag
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Yeah, not really into grave destruction myself, to be honest. But so long as we’re playing that game, why don’t we do the same for the communists, too, seeing as they probably tortured, oppressed, and mass-murdered more people in one century than slave owners over multiple centuries ever had?
Normally, I don’t care one way or another that Lenin’s body remains preserved and on display in Red Square, or that Mao got both that and a goddamned memorial hall to go with it. However, I’d like to see a little more consistency and even-handedness while we’re at it, though even ignoring how Russia and China would laugh in your face and “disappear” you if you suggested it, something tells me most of the people calling for grave desecrations for Group A have a not-to-secret “soft spot” for Group B…
Circle of Willis
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Looking at even just the past few years, I don't think the far left particularly cares about having a consistent standard, and they certainly don't have a sense of shame so it's basically impossible to shame them into even feeling bad about their blatant hypocrisy (much less to get them to actually do anything about it). If it's (insert atrocity) being done to or said about their team (any member thereof, up to & including or especially the likes of Mao/Stalin) it's stochastic terrorism, literal domestic terrorism, a hate crime, ontologically evil, etc. But if it's being done to their enemy though, it's to be celebrated, a necessary correction of historical injustice, well-deserved, etc. Simple as that.Yeah, not really into grave destruction myself, to be honest. But so long as we’re playing that game, why don’t we do the same for the communists, too, seeing as they probably tortured, oppressed, and mass-murdered more people in one century than slave owners over multiple centuries ever had?
Normally, I don’t care one way or another that Lenin’s body remains preserved and on display in Red Square, or that Mao got both that and a goddamned memorial hall to go with it. However, I’d like to see a little more consistency and even-handedness while we’re at it, though even ignoring how Russia and China would laugh in your face and “disappear” you if you suggested it, something tells me most of the people calling for grave desecrations for Group A have a not-to-secret “soft spot” for Group B…
Or in short, as the meme would put it, 'if the left didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all'.
Predicted this -- first monuments, now the "enemy dead".
These people won't stop. They'll keep pushing and pushing.
This is another reason why I think violence is inevitable between Them and anyone who isn't Them, now. They're just adding more and more petrol onto the fire. And, honestly? It's gotten to the point where They now need to be crushed.
It's either Them or everyone Not Them.
These people won't stop. They'll keep pushing and pushing.
This is another reason why I think violence is inevitable between Them and anyone who isn't Them, now. They're just adding more and more petrol onto the fire. And, honestly? It's gotten to the point where They now need to be crushed.
It's either Them or everyone Not Them.
Knowledgeispower
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Next I figure they'll go for union officers from the Civil War who also fought in the various wars against the native Americans which is a bloody sizeable chunk of them
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Purity spirals last until there's only one left, as the others had been purged.
After the Union soldiers/generals, it'll likely be those from WW1, then WW2...
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
For the US probably the banana wars than WWI
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
I know that, though at the same time, I can’t help but mentally grimace at how they’re begging the people they hate to return the favor ten, twenty, or a hundred-fold eventually.
At that point, their lack of shame won’t matter, seeing as all the self-righteous Twitter mobs, Woke scolds, and cancellation in the world can’t save them from the brutal “reprisals” headed their way eventually. As you know, I doubt they’ll come all at once, though when these unreal POS’s finally overstretch… well, the other side desecrating what remains of FDR, LBJ, and the graves of other heralds of American leftism will be the least of their problems, by then.
"But we aren't doing it! We are merely forcing you to uncover your ancestor's graves to prevent us defiling them!"
That's what they are going to argue. There is no talking with them.
Knowledgeispower
Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
At some point someone is going to snap and snipe one or more of these politicians and activists as loath as I am to say that
To add context: in this case this is not them purposefully targeting a grave. The statue in question was the last of the Confederate war memorial statues that were on Monument Avenue that the city of Richmond decided to tear down, and the remains had been purposefully interred there from their original burial ground. So while it is still tasteless destruction and desecration of a grave, this is not some new thing they've stooped to, just the conclusion of their original effort to purge that which founded the very thing they've determined it not inclusive enough.
PeaceMaker 03
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Just came across this thread and thought it is ironic, that the stars and bars Confederate flag is not the Confederate flag. Nope, it is the battle flag of the CSA Army.
In order to promote healing between the south and norththe CSA troops had been declared veterans etc.... The stars and bars are considered a US Army flag.
Not sure it may have changed from when I came across the tidbit of information, years ago. Ironic if the US ARMY is banning a US Army-recognized flag.
In order to promote healing between the south and norththe CSA troops had been declared veterans etc.... The stars and bars are considered a US Army flag.
Not sure it may have changed from when I came across the tidbit of information, years ago. Ironic if the US ARMY is banning a US Army-recognized flag.
Confederate Monument to Reunification and Reconciliation Monument Being Removed from Arlington National Cemetery.
www.foxnews.com
Confederate Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery to be removed despite GOP opposition
Despite opposition from Republicans in Congress, the U.S Army will remove a Confederate statue in the Arlington National Cemetery in compliance to a Congressional mandate.
www.foxnews.com
Confederate Monument to Reunification and Reconciliation Monument Being Removed from Arlington National Cemetery.
Confederate Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery to be removed despite GOP opposition
Despite opposition from Republicans in Congress, the U.S Army will remove a Confederate statue in the Arlington National Cemetery in compliance to a Congressional mandate.
Good.
This monument was directly put up/paid for by the Daughters of the Confederacy, who were basically the female KKK, and dedicated by fucking Woodrow Wilson on Jefferson Davis's birthday.
We have already seen that line used to destroy the statues of other things like jefferson and other founding fathers its going to be used against all of our history, and in fact already is.
Actually the United Daughters of the Confederacy opposed the burial of Confederate dead at Arlington from which the Memorial would later be located (sixteen thousand Confederates are buried at Arlington) but President McKinley, a Union Army veteran and other Veterans groups from both sides of the Civil War thought it'd be a good way to show National Reunification and Reconciliation after Northerners and Southerners fought side by side again in the Spanish-American War, including a former Confederate General Joseph Wheeler leading American troops into battle.
The establishment of the Memorial was done by ACMA several years later for the Confederate section of Arlington, not the United Daughters of the Confederacy though they were part of the umbrella of organizations which again included Veterans groups from North and South as well as gaining financial and moral and political support from Presidents William Taft, Theodore Roosevelt and a leading Catholic philanthropist named Thomas Ryan among many others. This support was again due to the idea of reconciliation and reunification.
AnimalNoodles
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neoliberals dont do reconciliation. They only accept submission and compliance.
"Authorized in March 1906, former Confederate soldier and sculptor Moses Jacob Ezekiel was commissioned by the United Daughters of the Confederacy in November 1910 to design the memorial. It was unveiled by President Woodrow Wilson on June 4, 1914, the 106th anniversary of the birth of Jefferson Davis, the President of the Confederate States of America."