United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

[Bacle]

A lot of the things this admin has done are downright bizarre and must be coming from a place of malice because it doesn't make any sense otherwise. His clamp down on the oil industry for instance or having the FBI harass parents who show up to school board meetings. Like what he's doing is political suicide and he's dragging the whole party down with him. I don't understand how anyone profits from a lot of these actions either, It just doesn't make any sense.

Sure it does, if your goal is to enable 'The Great Reset' and to 'Build Back Better'.

Think of it as the same methodology used by drill instructors and interrogators; break down the new subjects mentally never-ending with stress, deprivation, seemingly senseless orders/acts, while seeming extending a few 'nice things' here and there (student debt loan forgiveness, stimulus payments, etc) to induce Stockholm Syndrome/compliance.

Now add in the "Green New Deal" BS that the Dems still want to ram through via any means possible, and the whole 'critical race theory shit, and a lot of the actions the Biden Admin is doing make plenty of sense.

The fact is I think a lot of people here probably already understood this, but they also know that admitting as much means admitting that what Biden is doing is not 'random' or 'senseless', and that the Dems know what they want and are using their power to get it via any means necessary.

You can all cling to the hope of a 'Red Wave', but don't be overly surprised if it's barely a "Red Ripple", due to how much power is backing Biden and the Dems.

The amount of Right-Wing cope and denial about how fucked things are is darkly humorous a lot of the time, but I'm absolutely over going along with the charade.

 

[Rocinante]

We should keep in mind that it's not (necessarily) Biden the Man who's making these decisions. At his age and in his demented state, he's bound to have "handlers" calling the shots for him, as lots of people here rightly point out.

Personally, I think he makes a convenient "fall guy" for whatever disastrous actions the powers that be take, seeing as he physically embodies—not just in role, but also in appearance and mannerisms—a terminally ill status quo waiting to flatline, so even if it's not (entirely) his fault that things have gone south, he'll still make a great scapegoat. (And, while I can't refute what @Urabrask Revealed has said about history being rewritten to "rehabilitate" Biden later, I've a feeling it's equally plausible that Biden gets thrown under the bus, while his handlers get off scot-free—much to the detriment of America at large. )

Notice the details in the words I chose

The covid effects ended. We should be totally recovered and back at our golden age levels.... Yet every single decision Biden's handlers make, makes things worse

 

[Zyobot]

Notice the details in the words I chose

Alright, I guess I didn't see that.

But my point still holds, so if you're looking for the American equivalent of what Leonid Brezhnev was to the Soviet Union... well, look no further than Joe the Demented, is all I can say.

 

[Rocinante]

Alright, I guess I didn't see that.

But my point still holds, so if you're looking for the American equivalent of what Leonid Brezhnev was to the Soviet Union... well, look no further than Joe the Demented, is all I can say.

I agree with you. A good portion of the time when I am talking about Biden's position or policies, you can sub in "Biden's handlers."

Joe is actually the perfect president for the deep state. He won't push back or make his own decisions. He's the best puppet they could ask for, and he will be a great scapegoat later.

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[Zyobot]

I agree with you. A good portion of the time when I am talking about Biden's position or policies, you can sub in "Biden's handlers."

Joe is actually the perfect president for the deep state. He won't push back or make his own decisions. He's the best puppet they could ask for, and he will be a great scapegoat later.

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Quite, though I don’t suppose you had more to say in your third paragraph there? It cuts off after “I”, so I can’t tell.

Anyway, had an absurd thought just now, in which an ISOT scenario brings 2022 America back to 1982, resulting in Biden and Brezhnev shaking hands and holding a joint summit together. Personally, I can’t say whether it’d be sad, hilarious, or both, but what I can say is that the sight of two boring, faltering, doddering old men sitting across from one another representing the two most powerful nations in the world would be… embarrassing, however you slice it. 😕

 

[ATP]

And trying vax mandates. And the new ministry of truth.

I don't get it either.

I think they pay too much attention to Twitter opinions, which might be heavily bots, and don't represent the majority of the population. They're doing this stuff for them.

There are few possibiities:
1.They belive in their own propaganda.
2.They work for China/Moscov to destroy USA.
3.They arleady prepared 800 concentration camps and massgraves for all american "fascist",so it do not matter what people think,becouse there would be no next elections.

I hope for 1.
P.S dear @Zyobot - you forget about most important thing - kissing.Nobody kissed like Breznhew !

 

[Rocinante]

Quite, though I don’t suppose you had more to say in your third paragraph there? It cuts off after “I”, so I can’t tell.

Anyway, had an absurd thought just now, in which an ISOT scenario brings 2022 America back to 1982, resulting in Biden and Brezhnev shaking hands and holding a joint summit together. Personally, I can’t say whether it’d be sad, hilarious, or both, but what I can say is that the sight of two boring, faltering, doddering old men sitting across from one another representing the two most powerful nations in the world would be… embarrassing, however you slice it. 😕

Idk how I posted that before I finished, but I don't remember what I was going to say lol

 

[strunkenwhite]

Idk how I posted that before I finished, but I don't remember what I was going to say lol

Biden used voodoo to transfer his dementia to you!

 

[Arch Dornan]

We should keep in mind that it's not (necessarily) Biden the Man who's making these decisions. At his age and in his demented state, he's bound to have "handlers" calling the shots for him, as lots of people here rightly point out.

Personally, I think he makes a convenient "fall guy" for whatever disastrous actions the powers that be take, seeing as he physically embodies—not just in role, but also in appearance and mannerisms—a terminally ill status quo waiting to flatline, so even if it's not (entirely) his fault that things have gone south, he'll still make a great scapegoat. (And, while I can't refute what @Urabrask Revealed has said about history being rewritten to "rehabilitate" Biden later, I've a feeling it's equally plausible that Biden gets thrown under the bus, while his handlers get off scot-free—much to the detriment of America at large. )

He'll be one with how much impeachment is being floated in the news with the midterms projected to go red and the unhappy people needs someone to be put on the bonfire.

 

[49ersfootball]

Wonder when he'll approach Herbert Hoover territory, then? Dunno about Biden becoming another Buchanan just yet, but even if not, you don't have to be an indecisive waffler who lets a civil war kick off to be remembered as an awful president. (Having another Great Depression ensue on your watch is enough for that.)

Biden's approval ratings plunged to 38%. Inflation crisis will be overwhelming for the Dems.

 

[49ersfootball]

A lot of people are comparing the Biden regime to Woodro Wilson and I am just like hes nearing James Buchanan territory.

Going to bust out laughing if the GOP gets a supermajority in the United States Senate by 2024.

They're likely winning back control of the US House of Representatives & United States Senate in November.

At this rate, Biden might be the last Dem President we'll have for awhile.

 

[Zyobot]

He'll be one with how much impeachment is being floated in the news with the midterms projected to go red and the unhappy people needs someone to be put on the bonfire.

All the more reason Biden makes an excellent fall-guy for whatever his handlers are up to. Once things go south, he'll catch them blame, and the elites who plotted it will get away with their shenanigans... again!

Biden's approval ratings plunged to 38%. Inflation crisis will be overwhelming for the Dems.

Where are you getting the 38 percent figure from? Myself, I'm looking at the RCP average, which—although it compiles polls with varying methodologies and numbers—puts his aggregate approval at 41.6 percent. It could be way lower, of course, since I'm not as knowledgeable about who tends to respond by party affiliation or which neighborhoods the pollsters tend to survey the most.

 

[Rocinante]

Going to bust out laughing if the GOP gets a supermajority in the United States Senate by 2024.

They're likely winning back control of the US House of Representatives & United States Senate in November.

At this rate, Biden might be the last Dem President we'll have for awhile.

Never underestimate the public's ability to forget things.

I suspect a GOP takeover in the mid terms and probably for president, but 4 years after that all of Biden's and the Democrat' fuck ups will be entirely forgotten and the election will be up for grabs.

 

[Zyobot]

Never underestimate the public's ability to forget things.

I suspect a GOP takeover in the mid terms and probably for president, but 4 years after that all of Biden's and the Democrat' fuck ups will be entirely forgotten and the election will be up for grabs.

How much of that do you think is due to the public's short memory, and how much is probably due to more and more people tuning out of the 24/7 news cycle, and thus ignoring things they ought to know before voting at the next opportunity? In any case, I suspect the latter has a tendency to fuel the former, and is done on purpose to keep the audience disoriented and forgetful.

 

[Skallagrim]

At this rate, Biden might be the last Dem President we'll have for awhile.

Never underestimate the public's ability to forget things.

All the more reason Biden makes an excellent fall-guy for whatever his handlers are up to. Once things go south, he'll catch them blame, and the elites who plotted it will get away with their shenanigans... again!

Biden is fucking things up so badly that a new MAGA President can actually take back the White House in '24.

Here's the problem: it'll be a poisoned chalice, because the economy will be so utterly fucked up that there's no way to turn things around before the next election. Things will keep crashing, it'll be like the Great Depression all over again, and the establishment (Democrats, RINOs, the media, all the big corporations, the bureaucrats...) will go full throttle blaming the populist Republicans for all of it.

And since many people are complete morons who gobble up whatever they get told if it's just repeated 100 times a day... come next election, they'll vote a Democrat right back into office. (And in fact, if the Dems ever get a majority again -- which I think they will -- they'll immediately abuse it to pack the Supreme Court to a ludicrous degree, kill the filibuster, and if the can get away with it by any crooked means, forever skew all future elections in their favour.)

It's already war, and legality is now just a suggestion. The corrupt establishment already knows this, and they have already thrown out the rule-book. Which is why they'll stay in power for much longer than the terminally optimistic tend to believe.

They will not give up the seat of power until you force them off it with a bayonet.

 

[Zyobot]

Biden is fucking things up so badly that a new MAGA President can actually take back the White House in '24.

Here's the problem: it'll be a poisoned chalice, because the economy will be so utterly fucked up that there's no way to turn things around before the next election. Things will keep crashing, it'll be like the Great Depression all over again, and the establishment (Democrats, RINOs, the media, all the big corporations, the bureaucrats...) will go full throttle blaming the populist Republicans for all of it.

And since many people are complete morons who gobble up whatever they get told if it's just repeated 100 times a day... come next election, they'll vote a Democrat right back into office. (And in fact, if the Dems ever get a majority again -- which I think they will -- they'll immediately abuse it to pack the Supreme Court to a ludicrous degree, kill the filibuster, and if the can get away with it by any crooked means, forever skew all future elections in their favour.)

It's already war, and legality is now just a suggestion. The corrupt establishment already knows this, and they have already thrown out the rule-book. Which is why they'll stay in power for much longer than the terminally optimistic tend to believe.

They will not give up the seat of power until you force them off it with a bayonet.

I know your timetable here is much more gradual than what most posters here subscribe to, but I'm not sure people will have the patience to sit there and take it for another sixty (or so) years before exploding.

Although, so long as an establishment Democrat gets the nod in 2028 or 2032, I don't suppose their fans—and the institutions, more importantly—will cast them as a "Second FDR" who epitomizes "good government"? Because if so, I dread to think what my kids (and grandkids) will be taught in school, never mind how recent experiences have forced me to reevaluate lots of things I was taught as a naive schoolboy.

 

[Skallagrim]

I know your timetable here is much more gradual, but I'm not sure people will have the patience to sit there and take it for another sixty (or so) years before exploding.

Well, I expect a series of escalations, covering pretty much the rest of the century. The fact that I don't think matters will be resolved for quite some time yet doesn't suggest that the establishment can just utterly side-line the populists.

But to reference Roman history, as I will always do if given half the chance: the populist movement of the Gracchi was terminated in 122 BC, and Gaius Marius first came to political prominence in 104 BC. He then dominated Roman politics for eighteen years, and the elite still managed to oppose him so effectively that he had to resort to a coup. And then he died, they re-asserted control, and pretty much stayed in power until Caesar finally dealt with them...after almost another four decades.

Those kind of time-tables are pretty plausible, given the dirty tricks those in power will resort to so they can stay in power. It'll whip the screwed-over masses into an unholy rage, and it'll come back to bite the establishment in the end (when things devolve into outright civil war), but until then... they'll stay in power, for the most part.

So if a MAGA President takes back the White House in '24, and then successfully gets scape-goated for the collapsing economy and subsequently voted out of office in '28... I wouldn't be at all surprised if the establishment can then hold onto power (without serious opposition) for two decades afterwards. And even if a new populist champion then arises... chances are they'll still find a way to push him from power again.

A fight against the entrenched establishment is always a long fight. And the closer you get to the end, the bloodier it gets.

 

[Bacle]

Well, I expect a series of escalations, covering pretty much the rest of the century. The fact that I don't think matters will be resolved for quite some time yet doesn't suggest that the establishment can just utterly side-line the populists.

But to reference Roman history, as I will always do if given half the chance: the populist movement of the Gracchi was terminated in 122 BC, and Gaius Marius first came to political prominence in 104 BC. He then dominated Roman politics for eighteen years, and the elite still managed to oppose him so effectively that he had to resort to a coup. And then he died, they re-asserted control, and pretty much stayed in power until Caesar finally dealt with them...after almost another four decades.

Those kind of time-tables are pretty plausible, given the dirty tricks those in power will resort to so they can stay in power. It'll whip the screwed-over masses into an unholy rage, and it'll come back to bite the establishment in the end (when things devolve into outright civil war), but until then... they'll stay in power, for the most part.

So if a MAGA President takes back the White House in '24, and then successfully gets scape-goated for the collapsing economy and subsequently voted out of office in '28... I wouldn't be at all surprised if the establishment can then hold onto power (without serious opposition) for two decades afterwards. And even if a new populist champion then arises... chances are they'll still find a way to push him from power again.

A fight against the entrenched establishment is always a long fight. And the closer you get to the end, the bloodier it gets.

And yet again, it needs to be said: WE ARE NOT ROME AND LOOKING TO ROME FOR TIMETABLES AND ANSWERS IS PART OF WHY THE RIGHT KEEPS LOSING THE CULTURE WAR.

Tech, society, and the world as a whole move much faster, with greater reach, and with more interconnectednesss than Rome ever had.

Rome is not the end all, be all of what a 'great civilization' looks or operates like.

You want to deal with the reality we face now, look to shit like 1984, Ghost in the Shell, Bladerunner, The Expanse, and Firefly/Serenity for examples of where our culture and world might be going, and learn the lessons they teach, instead of continuing to think you are living in a modern Rome.

 

[Floridaman]

How much of that do you think is due to the public's short memory, and how much is probably due to more and more people tuning out of the 24/7 news cycle, and thus ignoring things they ought to know before voting at the next opportunity? In any case, I suspect the latter has a tendency to fuel the former, and is done on purpose to keep the audience disoriented and forgetful.

I would argue the former..... in fact I would bet you that the people who tune out the 24/7 newscycle are better adjusted than those who don’t

 

[Zyobot]

I would argue the former..... in fact I would bet you that the people who tune out the 24/7 newscycle are better adjusted than those who don’t

Unless the people that tune it just eat it all up without investigating further, that is. Those who do investigate, on the other hand, probably have a firmer grasp of what's going on than the rest of their tuned-in kin, as well as those who just ignore it and passively accept the tidbits their friends, families, and neighbors pass onto them.