I highly doubt the quality is as good as that of the NATO countries and from what I hear, the time it takes to resupply is much worse then that if Western nations.
As in batches vs single rounds
Ukrainian is also more accurate
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As in batches vs single rounds
Ukrainian is also more accurate
strunkenwhite
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I wasn't easily able to look into this either, but I would expect NATO countries can ramp up production to well above what Russia can manage, making it a question of will. I doubt NATO will let Ukraine or itself run dry.
TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
You mean the same quality produced by sobs who sell planes than can't land on an fucking aircraft carrier?
Or sell you overpriced schizotech?
I mean, it seems western tech has done better then Rusdian tech.
Why else would all of the Eastern NATO countries be wanting Western stuff?
planefag
A Flying Bundle of Sticks
iF yOuRE wInNinG wHy dO yOu wAnT oVerMatcH sO muCh??????????? yOu sHOuLd fIgHt fAIR
Russians Sagely Avoided that Issue by Simply Not Having An Operable Aircraft Carrier.
TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
Russians Sagely Avoided that Issue by Simply Not Having An Operable Aircraft Carrier.
It seems you guys are too eager to support the side that just a few months ago wanted us to have injected with a lethal dose of over a 1000 adverse severe events.
Considering your country is pretty much the evil empire, I wish you to fail just as you guys did in Afghanistan, Vietnam and other.
Hopefully in our lifetime the United States will crumble.
Good rebuttal. I'm convinced. The Russian Carrier is Operable and Western Planes cannot engage in Carrier Ops.
Reminder that world geopolitical conflicts span over more than 1 election cycle.
Megadeath
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- You can never have too much when you're fighting a war.
- Different vehicles do different things.
- SUVs are less likely to be left behind and captured, because they're useful for the Russian forces when they run away, abandoning their tanks.
- SUVs are less likely to be left damaged but repairable in battle thank a tank. A weapon that might just knock the tread off a tank may leave an SUV an absolute wreck, so they're less likely to be captured after Russian's lose a fight.
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Biden USA are evil empire - but,we still have possibility of normal USA with Trump.
In case of Moscov,if genocider Putin die,another KGB colonel would keep genociding.
So,if we must choose,USA is only sane choice.
I undarstandt,that you want hope,but you do not find it in KGB.They must be evil,when USA only could be evil.
Arch Dornan
Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.
Cold war relic gives opinion.
People say that hindsight is 10/10 to dismiss some commentary as obvious, but i guess some people lack even that.
Was a great idea at the time, but look where are we now with China...
Seems like exactly the same mistake in thinking - taking what is genuinely a good idea tactically at a certain time, and then getting married to it as a long term policy, even though it makes for a terrible long term policy. Newsflash, it's not the 80's or 90's anymore.
Well,in 2012 he stated that Izrael would not last 10 years.
Last time i checked,they were in good condition.
Oh Shit War Over By Canada Day!
Looks like all of those PRO RUSSIAN SHILLS had no idea how THICK NATO Artillery Reserves Actually Were.
If Canada can donate 20,000 Howitzers, imagine how much a country with an actual military like Australia or Belgium or North Macedonia can donate!
Don't tell the Vatniks your source in this info... 😏
Looks like all of those PRO RUSSIAN SHILLS had no idea how THICK NATO Artillery Reserves Actually Were.
If Canada can donate 20,000 Howitzers, imagine how much a country with an actual military like Australia or Belgium or North Macedonia can donate!
Don't tell the Vatniks your source in this info... 😏
Probably meant 20k rounds, not 20k guns; I do not think the entire production run of M777s gets near 20k units made.
Still, 20k rounds is nothing to sneeze at.
Doomsought
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Probably some translation errors during the game of telephone given the grammar.
20,000 howitzers of Trudeau
Yeah, its a translation error.
And no, 20k in the scale of artillery is not a lot. M777's sustained rate of fire is 2 rounds per minute. As such, the smallest organizational unit of such guns, a battery, in US system 6 guns, can get through about 720 rounds per hour of sustained combat, indicating that the 20k may get these 6 guns through a few days, or perhaps a week or two of less intense operations.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
The same way journalists in non-english speaking countries constantly translate the term ''troops'' into term meaning company, becoming a hundredfold increase
Can't see the colour of their beaks, but the general shape is that of blackbird, who are very good at imitating sounds
Can't see the colour of their beaks, but the general shape is that of blackbird, who are very good at imitating sounds
I guess you think it's a good thing that Russia had to cut down tank production? If Ukraine are asking for SUVs, they must be desperately low on equipment; if Russia aren't building tanks they must already have enough.
- You can never have too much when you're fighting a war.
- Different vehicles do different things.
- SUVs are less likely to be left behind and captured, because they're useful for the Russian forces when they run away, abandoning their tanks.
- SUVs are less likely to be left damaged but repairable in battle thank a tank. A weapon that might just knock the tread off a tank may leave an SUV an absolute wreck, so they're less likely to be captured after Russian's lose a fight.
Also, if we're judging who's winning based on them pressing civilian vehicles into the fight, Ukraine is resorting to using civilian vehicles now, 3 months into the war, while Russia had thier little tactical Scooby-Doo Vans pressed into service on like day 3. So even by that metric Ukraine is doing much better.