AnimalNoodles
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Chechnya is a part of russia that tried to secede. Georgia played footsie with NATO.
Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)
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Chechnya is a part of russia that tried to secede. Georgia played footsie with NATO.
AnimalNoodles
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lol America invaded a tiny island in the Caribbean because it had a communist coup. It would absolutely sanction and invade Canada or Mexico if they moved into China's orbit
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Not well.
On the flip side: US-Canada-Mexico relations would have to drastically change for the worse for that to even be a remote possibility.
In the Slavic parts of the world, there is a common saying that goes like this:
"If you want to hit a dog, you'll always find a stick to hit it with".
This principle is also applicable to Russia's justifications for its invasions.
49ersfootball
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Biden FINALLY nominates a new US Ambassador to Ukraine. Should've been done last year!
Now Uncle Joe needs to name Ambassadors to Korea, Philippines, etc., ASAP.
49ersfootball
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Praying to God that Ukrainian Armed Forces defeat those uppity Russians.
Chiron
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Nice ideal, except there has been little if any resistance behind the lines. What little there was either got shot to pieces or hunted down by the Russian National Guard Troops doing Rear Area Security.
And given the Zelensky Government has been hugely unpopular and 5 million Ukrainians fled to other states rather than fight and Russia has 2 million more under occupation without any notable issues aside from street protests that do shit, this Ukrainian Guerrilla Movement doesn't look to be happening.
On the contrary, Ukrainians under Russian Occupation on the whole are putting back up Soviet Era Monuments torn down by the Ukrainian Government and collaborating. Russia's decision to help in this and put up billboards commemorating Ukrainian WW2 heroes also has gone a long way alongside its humanitarian outreach and ease of implementing Rubles as the currency and getting the local economy tied back into the Russian Economy.
sillygoose
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Hell look what we did to Honduras for trying to build up their agricultural industry!
How Pentagon Officials May Have Encouraged a 2009 Coup in Honduras
Military officers at the Center for Hemispheric Defense Studies helped coup leaders — at cross purposes with other U.S. government agencies.
theintercept.com
America has raped Latin America for hundreds of years for profit, if we felt they were a real security threat what we did to Iraq or Vietnam would look mild in comparison.
sillygoose
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To be fair the areas under occupation are mostly areas that are Russian speaking and were pro-Yanokovich who had problems with the Maidan coup. If Russia succeeds in occupying areas that are predominantly Ukrainian speaking then I could see more behind the lines resistance.
No,they are killed and raped by kgbstan becouse those idiots truly belive,that Ukraine do not really exist.It was true - in 1918.
Now,they try to made ukrainians worst version of russians.It could work - if they have 4 millions of soldiers and 20 years.
And genocide 30% of nation.
Genociding is not problem for kgb,problem is- THEY DO NOT HAVE 4 MILLIONS OF CANNONFODDER.
And Donetsck airfield is proof,that kgbstan could not win this war easily - which mean,that without nukes they would not win at all.
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Megadeath
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Lol, some people claim that some Americans may have provided lobbying and planning support for Hondurans who came to them. Whilst most other parts of the US government worked against the coup. Yep, sounds exactly the same as launching a 200,000 man invasion of your neighbour.Hell look what we did to Honduras for trying to build up their agricultural industry!
How Pentagon Officials May Have Encouraged a 2009 Coup in Honduras
Military officers at the Center for Hemispheric Defense Studies helped coup leaders — at cross purposes with other U.S. government agencies.
America has raped Latin America for hundreds of years for profit, if we felt they were a real security threat what we did to Iraq or Vietnam would look mild in comparison.
That's got to be the saddest, most pathetic attempt at what-aboutism I've seen in a long time.
AnimalNoodles
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Lol, some people claim that some Americans may have provided lobbying and planning support for Hondurans who came to them. Whilst most other parts of the US government worked against the coup. Yep, sounds exactly the same as launching a 200,000 man invasion of your neighbour.
That's got to be the saddest, most pathetic attempt at what-aboutism I've seen in a long time.
Whatabout Cuba and Grenada?
sillygoose
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No need to invade when you can get the locals to do your bidding. And the US government working at cross purposes is SOP. See the CIA and the DEA and the drug war.Lol, some people claim that some Americans may have provided lobbying and planning support for Hondurans who came to them. Whilst most other parts of the US government worked against the coup. Yep, sounds exactly the same as launching a 200,000 man invasion of your neighbour.
That's got to be the saddest, most pathetic attempt at what-aboutism I've seen in a long time.
If you'd prefer more brutal examples:
Megadeath
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And what exactly are you basing that on? There's little enough information from the front and the Ukrainian controlled areas. Russian controlled areas have basically no communication channels except official Russian propaganda. If things are so great and happy, why has Russia felt the need to forcibly and illegally relocate so many people?
Also, you realise I imagine, but choose to ignore, the vast overwhelming majority of the "5 million Ukrainians fled to other states rather than fight" are women, children and the elderly. They're not fleeing rather than fighting, they're leaving because they can't fight.
Is this another one of these "muh poor Central American shitholes being oppressed by America not letting them have communism" cases?Hell look what we did to Honduras for trying to build up their agricultural industry!
How Pentagon Officials May Have Encouraged a 2009 Coup in Honduras
Military officers at the Center for Hemispheric Defense Studies helped coup leaders — at cross purposes with other U.S. government agencies.
America has raped Latin America for hundreds of years for profit, if we felt they were a real security threat what we did to Iraq or Vietnam would look mild in comparison.
And where are the profits?
sillygoose
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Right it only counts as interference and aggression when it's not the Americans doing it.
What?
Ok, now go whine about foreign interference not letting poor Middle Easterners build an islamic state.
Right it only counts as interference and aggression when it's not the Americans doing it.
Oh, wait, Russia itself took part in that one too.
Invading to stop communist revolutions is not aggression, it's charity.
My point exactly. You said something about how profitable not letting Central American shitholes have communism is. I want to know how profitable exactly it is.
sillygoose
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You could say the exact same about the Ukrainian held areas.
Because they're in a war zone with lots of damage that isn't easily repaired so it's safer and healthier to relocate refugees. Same as Ukraine has done by moving millions more people out of the country. Why has Ukraine felt the need to forcibly ethnically cleanse their own country of their own people? That's the level of silliness of your statement.
sillygoose
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How about not illegally invading Iraq?
To defend Syria against Islamic militants while the US funded ISIS:
Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq | Seumas Milne | The Guardian
If by revolutions you mean democratic elections then yes. That's not charity, its a war of aggression.
I never said anything like that.