Why Did You Choose To Register & Enter This Thread?

[Terthna]

Or more likely, make their own site

Digital Wild West already existed before the Mass PM

Oh wait, the guy who made it was responsible for the Mass PM getting slandered in some bid to get us all there, right?

No, you're thinking of the guy who made Frozen In Carbonite, Horton; who is also a mod on Digital Wild West, but not the owner, as that's Train_Dodger. And as far as I'm aware, the latter had no knowledge of what the former was doing.

What are we doing wrong in your view that they wouldn’t join a professionally operated website owned by a company under US law with security protections and the ability to grow on demand with cloud infrastructure? It isn’t easy to create a serious webforum which can resist takedown attempts...

If I had to point to one issue, other than the utterly pointless NSFW section, it would have to be the fact that you are the owner of this forum. While the way you have run the forum so far has been commendable, the fact remains that you and your personal beliefs are controversial enough that, barring other factors, a lot of people probably wouldn't want to associate with you on principle. I know I was tempted to drop this place like a hot potato, once I began to get a handle on what your opinions were on a number of topics.

Honestly the only reason I stayed, is due to a combination of wanting to be exposed to ideas I disagree with (which is not something that most people share), as well as the fact that unlike most of those on SB, you're not a total asshole about it. Not to mention the fact that we do seem to have a few topics we share similar opinions on, and I don't want to discount that.

 

[Cherico]

If that happens then SB posters will have to make a choice between mentally regimenting themselves to never do anything except SJW/cancel culture compliant activities on the whole internet... Or just leave the site and join us.

SB has a rule the affairs of other forums do not concern us.

Its a good rule you never want to get the chans to start messing with you.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

@Terthna, do you have ideas how we could fix or at least mitigate the issues that you counted?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Its a good rule you never want to get the chans to start messing with you.

What can 4chan-ers do to them? Hack them? Make memes about SB that make members feel they’re being mocked?

How exactly are the chans involved with the other forums? I think that sort of behavior stereotyped chans have is banned

 

[Scottty]

What can 4chan-ers do to them? Hack them? Make memes about SB that make members feel they’re being mocked?
How exactly are the chans involved with the other forums? I think that sort of behavior stereotyped chans have is banned

Banning things doesn't actually make them not happen.
A seriously motivated hacker could do lots of very bad things, and not just to your online persona.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Banning things doesn't actually make them not happen.
A seriously motivated hacker could do lots of very bad things, and not just to your online persona.

Okay, admittedly that sounds scary as hell

I guess they will also dig up actual dirt on them, like one feminist-SJW-male user actually being a former sex offender and abuser

 

[Scottty]

Okay, admittedly that sounds scary as hell

I guess they will also dig up actual dirt on them, like one feminist-SJW-male user actually being a former sex offender and abuser

And don't think that not having any actual dirt for them to dig up would mean you were safe.

 

[Deleted member]

If I had to point to one issue, other than the utterly pointless NSFW section, it would have to be the fact that you are the owner of this forum. While the way you have run the forum so far has been commendable, the fact remains that you and your personal beliefs are controversial enough that, barring other factors, a lot of people probably wouldn't want to associate with you on principle. I know I was tempted to drop this place like a hot potato, once I began to get a handle on what your opinions were on a number of topics.

Honestly the only reason I stayed, is due to a combination of wanting to be exposed to ideas I disagree with (which is not something that most people share), as well as the fact that unlike most of those on SB, you're not a total asshole about it. Not to mention the fact that we do seem to have a few topics we share similar opinions on, and I don't want to discount that.

Why is NSFW utterly pointless? Do you want me to write explicit penetrative sex scenes in it to convince everyone it’s safe? Is it pointless to have a forum where you are allowed to do that?


As for the rest, I hope my defence of free speech and constitutionalism is what really matters.

 

[LTR]

I think it's not long until SB introduces the same rule as SV did, namely "Your behaviour on other forums will be used against you".

IIRC it was already casually being talked about.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

IIRC it was already casually being talked about.

Welp. Guess we will have to expect more registers in the future.

 

[Terthna]

Why is NSFW utterly pointless? Do you want me to write explicit penetrative sex scenes in it to convince everyone it’s safe? Is it pointless to have a forum where you are allowed to do that?


As for the rest, I hope my defence of free speech and constitutionalism is what really matters.

I already told you why I think it's pointless; it's not only redundant when compared to QQ, it's also vastly inferior, due to the heavily restrictive rules you've put in place. I've also already heard why you designed it that way, but the niche you're trying to attract, those who refuse to associate themselves with the more extreme content found on QQ, yet still want to post porn, just isn't there; outside of a very select few. I mean, look at the "erotic" content that has been posted there so far in the past two months; a few anemic image threads, and a short Bernie Sanders/Donald Trump slash-fic written as a joke. That's it. I wished you luck in finding like-minded people to post in your NSFW sub-forum, because you're going to need it.

That said; your defense of free speech and constitutionalism are among the things we happen to have in common, and I'm appreciative of that. The sad fact of the matter is you cannot please everyone; and a lot of people are going to be repulsed by your more controversial views, in much the same way you argue that some are repulsed from QQ by certain content that can be found there. One can only hope that those who do stay contribute to a healthy community with a diverse range of opinions; and so far, it seems to be working out. Sure, the culture leans heavily to the right for now, but hopefully more people like me (but far better at debating, because I know I suck at it) will show up eventually and stick around; because I'd hate to see this place become just another echo chamber.

 

[FriedCFour]

I already told you why I think it's pointless; it's not only redundant when compared to QQ, it's also vastly inferior, due to the heavily restrictive rules you've put in place.

No child pornography is heavily restrictive? That's a scary thought.

 

[Terthna]

No child pornography is heavily restrictive? That's a scary thought.

That's not what I'm talking about; you haven't read the rules, have you? Specifically these sections:

...It is permitted in these enclosed sections to post erotic material but not outright pornography or extreme material.

Any images or art work must be classified as softcore erotica, no hardcore pornography...

No extreme fetish material including but not limited to Vore, Snuff, sadistic torture, excessive gore, Bestiality, Necrophilia, Rape fantasy and similar. This list is not exhaustive, if in doubt ask a member of staff.

A lot more than just child pornography is restricted.

 

[Deleted member]

“Erotic material” includes explicit sexual erotica. The restrictions to “softcore” are for images only because US law is more restrictive to images. That’s why we used the language we did. It means you can write anything that isn’t torture, rape or children, and you can post topless and posed nude images of adults. Jeez, I just can’t fathom anyone calling that restrictive, I really cannot.

 

[Terthna]

Jeez, I just can’t fathom anyone calling that restrictive, I really cannot.

You've made that abundantly clear; but your lack of understanding doesn't change the fact that it is.

 

[Deleted member]

You've made that abundantly clear; but your lack of understanding doesn't change the fact that it is.

All right. I apologise. It’s just that my entire worldview isn’t set up to see those restrictions as extreme so your position is genuinely shocking and confusing and I am very sorry I keep bringing it up.

 

[Terthna]

All right. I apologise. It’s just that my entire worldview isn’t set up to see those restrictions as extreme so your position is genuinely shocking and confusing and I am very sorry I keep bringing it up.

No problem; we're just two different people with very different views, and that's okay. And I'm not saying you should change anything; this is your forum, and you have a right to decide what is and is not appropriate to post on it. I'm just trying point out that those decisions are not going to appeal to everyone, or even most.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

No problem; we're just two different people with very different views, and that's okay. And I'm not saying you should change anything; this is your forum, and you have a right to decide what is and is not appropriate to post on it. I'm just trying point out that those decisions are not going to appeal to everyone, or even most.

I like Mind Break & Reverse Rape.....well if it means not seeing dudes like Dirk Diggler from QQ, I can deal with things

 

[Emperor Tippy]

“Erotic material” includes explicit sexual erotica. The restrictions to “softcore” are for images only because US law is more restrictive to images. That’s why we used the language we did. It means you can write anything that isn’t torture, rape or children, and you can post topless and posed nude images of adults. Jeez, I just can’t fathom anyone calling that restrictive, I really cannot.

To be fair, we probably should modify the rules to make that clearer.

 

[Deleted member]

To be fair, we probably should modify the rules to make that clearer.

That's an interesting point, it's possible that people are misinterpreting what the rules actually mean and that's why the NSFW sections are not being used. Truth be told, I've thought about deleting them because of how little traffic they got, and just moving the complaining threads into a non-NSFW but private forum. However, clarifying the language of the rules and seeing if that does anything is perfectly reasonable.