Trump Investigations Thread

[Vyor]

It's out of their hands if he's convicted because the judge can't go any lighter than the minimum prescribed by law.

Nope, a judge can override the jury's verdict, particularly with appeals. Now, the DC judge ain't going to do that, but the appeals court might and the Supreme Court absolutely would.

 

[Allanon]

First check your tone when replying to me as i do not appreciate being insulted for a prediction🤬, secondly perhaps you could drop the well poisoning.

As for why he would make a deal i think avoiding prison and getting the presidency in a ''come back arc'' is a great motive. Avoiding the system going after his family/friends is another.

The system doesn't just want Trump destroyed but his followers rendered impotent and politically ineffective, it's funny that you mention q shit as that ''pied piper'' strategy is heavily favored by the establishment. I know how often and frequently shills try and d&c so i will remind everyone to vote for the man simply to cause the globalist system problems, but don't anyone get their hopes up. Watch the upcoming legal procedings, if i'm right it will be perfectly calculated to infuriate the right but in the end he won't be punished to any significant degree. If i'm wrong America has much larger problems.🤔

Actually, you both have points here. It is entirely possible that the whole Trump thing, even his 2016 victory, was all part of a clever but sinister plan.

If his victory was an honest fluke then the "deep state" will move quickly to neutralize him and his followers. Here in New York State there is ample proof that there were more votes cast than there are legal voters so the corruption isn't even trying to be subtle any longer- and that is terrifying, when it has gotten so bad the criminals can thumb their noses at us.

The whole Trump business now is only a small part of a political scene so corrupt and hopeless it may be impossible to save it now. Look at that cocaine found in the White House- who the hell, HOW the hell, does someone get that much stuff into the WHITE HOUSE? Would have to be someone not searched and another thing- no junkie is going to ever leave that much drugs behind, he will wrestle Godzilla to get it back...unless he has access to so much it would be like you losing a quarter. Yet do you see the media asking serious questions? Literally everything around us now is a lie.


By the way, you two- things are so crazy now in real life a movie along the lines of "They Live" seems tame by comparison. So there's no point laughing or insulting either one of you, so play nicer.

 

[Megadeath]

Here in New York State there is ample proof that there were more votes cast than there are legal voters

A quick search shows 8,661,735 votes cast, vs 12.3 million active enrolled voters. Perhaps you could share the proof you're talking about?

 

[Carrot of Truth]

A quick search shows 8,661,735 votes cast, vs 12.3 million active enrolled voters. Perhaps you could share the proof you're talking about?

Don't really know a lot about the New York state situation but just gotta say if I was going to rig an election the first thing I'd do is edit the number of registered voters on paper.

 

[bintananth]

Don't really know a lot about the New York state situation but just gotta say if I was going to rig an election the first thing I'd do is edit the number of registered voters on paper.

NY's population is 19.8 million. That number of registered voters almost certainly isn't a lie.

 

[Megadeath]

Don't really know a lot about the New York state situation but just gotta say if I was going to rig an election the first thing I'd do is edit the number of registered voters on paper.

I assume you'd use the same magic to retroactively adjust every mention of numbers from before the election?

 

[Captain X]

Wasn't one of the things the media was making a big deal out of in the run up to the election the record number of newly registered voters in all these states?

 

[bintananth]

Wasn't one of the things the media was making a big deal out of in the run up to the election the record number of newly registered voters in all these states?

Yawn.

Because of simple demographics (i.e. a growing population) there will be a record number of newly registered voters for practically every presidential election simply due to more people turning 18 than who died since the last one.

In other words, the media likes to make a big deal out of nothing to fill airtime. News at eleven.

 

[Megadeath]

Wasn't one of the things the media was making a big deal out of in the run up to the election the record number of newly registered voters in all these states?

As Bintanath said, that's a nothing burger that makes for an emotive headline to feed the narrative of a combative and emotional election. I mean, it was anyway, but throwing logs on the fire always gets more clicks, views, copies sold, etc. than cold and dispassionate reporting and they choose what they make a big deal of more on how it benefits the corporation than on the social utility. Disadvantage of rampant capitalism and insufficient regulation. 🤷‍♂️

That aside, that would hardly support the claim @Allanon seems to have immediately abandoned, that there was evidence of more votes than voters.

 

[Vyor]

Also why would they even need to cheat there? It's New York City, one of the most solid Blue states in the country.

 

[Jormungandr]

Also why would they even need to cheat there? It's New York City, one of the most solid Blue states in the country.

Yep -- the state of the city itself is a testament to that.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Also why would they even need to cheat there? It's New York City, one of the most solid Blue states in the country.

All you have to do is win NYC and those filthy bugmen can countermand the will of the rest of the state.

 

[Cherico]

All you have to do is win NYC and those filthy bugmen can countermand the will of the rest of the state.

Upstate new york tends to really hate the city.

 

[Blasterbot]

A completely unbiased judge.

Trump attacks judge overseeing the Jan. 6 case just days after warning

Former President Donald Trump went after Judge Tanya Chutkan just days after she imposed a protective order and warned him against intimidating witnesses or impacting a jury.

www.dailymail.co.uk

the quote from her that he put out?

'I see the videotapes. I see the footage of the flags and the signs that people were carrying and the hats that they were wearing, and the garb,' the judge said in October. 'And the people who mobbed that Capitol were there in fealty, in loyalty to one man, not to the Constitution, of which most of the people who come before me seem woefully ignorant; not to the ideals of this county and not to the principles of democracy. It's blind loyalty to one person who, by the way, remains free to this day.'

very unbiased. certainly going to make fair rulings and has not already come to a conclusion.

 

[Vyor]

A completely unbiased judge.

Trump attacks judge overseeing the Jan. 6 case just days after warning

Former President Donald Trump went after Judge Tanya Chutkan just days after she imposed a protective order and warned him against intimidating witnesses or impacting a jury.

www.dailymail.co.uk

the quote from her that he put out?

very unbiased. certainly going to make fair rulings and has not already come to a conclusion.

That's why his lawyers are, hopefully, submitting a request for her to recuse herself, something she'll deny but they can then appeal that ruling as well.

 

[Blasterbot]

That's why his lawyers are, hopefully, submitting a request for her to recuse herself, something she'll deny but they can then appeal that ruling as well.

they do have to make the motions to preserve the right to appeal. hopefully that works out or things will be bad.

 

[Vyor]

they do have to make the motions to preserve the right to appeal. hopefully that works out or things will be bad.

Yeah. See: the "hopefully" part.

I have very little faith in his ability to choose lawyers.

 

[bintananth]

A completely unbiased judge.

Trump attacks judge overseeing the Jan. 6 case just days after warning

Former President Donald Trump went after Judge Tanya Chutkan just days after she imposed a protective order and warned him against intimidating witnesses or impacting a jury.

www.dailymail.co.uk

the quote from her that he put out?

very unbiased. certainly going to make fair rulings and has not already come to a conclusion.

That's what she said during sentencing to someone who pleaded guilty. i.e.: she's explaining why she's handing down that particular sentence to that particular defendent.

Now, if she'd said something like that during a trial Trump's lawyers would have a point but she didn't, so they don't.

Remember: Trump and his lawyers want to win over the court of public opinion. To that end every little thing they can fling is getting tossed out there in order to sway the masses.

"If you have the facts on your side, pound the facts; if you have the law on your side, pound the law; if you have neither the facts nor the law, pound the table."

They're basically pounding the table.

 

[Vyor]

That's what she said during sentencing to someone who pleaded guilty. i.e.: she's explaining why she's handing down that particular sentence to that particular defendent.

Does. Not. Matter.

You want to know what a judgement is supposed to hold? The facts of the case and only that case.

You want to know what it isn't supposed to hold? Accusations thrown at people not involved in that case.

Take a guess what that judgement there holds.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

That aside, that would hardly support the claim @Carrot of Truth seems to have immediately abandoned, that there was evidence of more votes than voters.

What are you a redditor? Trying to twist my words and pick a fight or something?