Transgender Athletes in Sports

[Bear Ribs]

Um ...

A 17-year-old girl struck out Ruth and Gehrig

It shouldn't come as much of a shock to hear that baseball in 1931 was totally different from baseball today. Just from looking at pictures from the era, you can tell. Pitchers' windups are different. Hitters' swings are different. The uniforms look thicker and baggier. But another way the game

www.mlb.com

You were saying?

Gals who play baseball professionally are usually pitchers who confuse the shit out of a lineup with the occassional middle infielder or right fielder batting 1st or 2nd tossed in.

You kinda proved his point. Jackie Mitchell was signed on by Engel, who was known for his publicity stunt style, not for getting the best players. Jackie Mitchell was a minor leaguer who was known for publicity stunts like pitching while wearing a fake beard, and at one point being asked to pitch while riding a donkey. She had one good trick, her Sinker, and otherwise wasn't particularly impressive in her league. That's not to say she wasn't a great female athlete but she was never particularly competitive with top male athletes.

Babe Ruth used a very high-risk/high-reward batting style that made him very easy to strike, but when he did hit it, it was a usually a great hit. That's why he held records for both his huge number of homeruns and for most strikeouts evar.

Wonder who else used that kind of style?

Lou Gehrig Has Most Career Strikeouts | StatMuse

Lou Gehrig had his most strikeouts in a game 13 times, with 3 strikeouts.

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Oh. So managing to strike them out isn't actually anything impressive, it was business as usual. The fact that the article was trying to talk up the greatness of a .303 Batting Average is rather telling.

 

[Jormungandr]

With sports where raw strength isn't a necessity women can do just as well as men.

With sports - like gymnastics, cheerleading, and figure skating - where agility and precision are paramount women have the advantage and the men often look like clumsy brutes.

Yes, there are some sports that women are better at due to, well, I'll just say it: their femininity.

Men are naturally stronger and larger on the whole because that's how nature designed us, and in sports or events where such things are mostly detrimental, it's all a holdback. However, despite being clumsy and less graceful in, say, figure skating due to a man's size and bulk, he would still have the advantage in stamina and strength -- even if he is clumsy while doing it, heh. I mean, a man's musculature and bones are stronger/denser, and our hearts can pump... I think it was 28% more oxygen in the blood?

However, in every other sport? Yeah, there's a reason why people say "if there's a girl/women involved, keep an ambulance on standby".

I was watching two rugby matches on TV the other week: one a female championship, one a male.

The female match was more about tactics, agility, and outmaneuvering. It was a great game to watch.

The male match? Two brick walls smashing into each other; one guy was even lifted off his feet like in a cartoon sketch because the Samoan guy tackled him. The French guy was fine, albeit a bit woozy.

Now, if one of the female rugby players had been that French player? Yeah, they'd be carting her off in an ambulance for serious injuries.

If there were a boxing match between a female heavyweight and a male heavyweight, based on their classes alone (a male heavyweight is not in the same league as a female heavyweight, which'd be something like two, three tiers down from a male on the match-scale), it'd be fucking suicide.

 

[bintananth]

The fact that the article was trying to talk up the greatness of a .303 Batting Average is rather telling.

Last season a .303 BA would have been the 10th best in the entire MLB. Yeah, that ain't just good. It's excellent.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Last season a .303 BA would have been the 10th best in the entire MLB. Yeah, that ain't just good. It's excellent.

Today yes, back then? Not so much.

The game was quite different in the 30s, partially from small rules changes (spitballs were legal then), partly from equipment (baseballs in that era were "dead," that is, more loosely tied compared to modern ones), and partly because most of the players were juiced as there weren't really any drug tests going on and not a lot of animus against doping.

 

[bintananth]

Today yes, back then? Not so much.

The game was quite different in the 30s, partially from small rules changes (spitballs were legal then), partly from equipment (baseballs in that era were "dead," that is, more loosely tied compared to modern ones), and partly because most of the players were juiced as there weren't really any drug tests going on and not a lot of animus against doping.

Back then batting helmets weren't required. MLB rules didn't mandate those until 1971 even though it had been known that an errant pitch which hits a batter in the head can be deadly for over 50 years. Look up Ray Chatman if you're curious.

Getting "hit by pitch" next to your name on a scorecard is the exact opposite of what can be called "fun" even when it's a softball thrown by a preteen girl.

Yes, the game was different then. It was also much more dangerous.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Congratulations to Tiffany Newell for setting a new Canadian Record for Women's Indoor Athletics!



NGL when I first saw them, thought it was Bob Page of Deus Ex in open disguise. Seems like a Bob Page thing to do in ones freetime.

 

[Buba]

Outrageous and disgusting ...

 

[Jormungandr]

Outrageous and disgusting ...

My thoughts exactly.

JKR was correct when she basically said this trans-trender lunacy would result in women being kicked out of their own spaces, sports, and activities.

But no, she's "transphobic".

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

This maybe the wrong thread for this, but I'll be honest I'm honestly surprised that MGTOWs and cheuvenist aren't embracing the transgender movement as a godsend men have seemingly proven they can be seen as better at being women than women from a social standpoint and now they are even discovering how to make eggs from a stem cells.

Once the latter is perfected then women from all standpoints will be obsolete. All that would be left to do would be to condition males to not "long for the traits of the obsolete sex" embrace MGTOW and their masculine superior and humanity would be able to carry on as essential an asexual species. (Which according to MGTOWs I've met means all that energy wasted on sex can be used to build great empires and settle the stars.)

It feels like I'm in the twilight zone. The people who hate women (and view them as a necessary evil at best and a crippling hindrance at worst) are doing more to call out this garbage than the people whom claim to want to fight for women's rights and agency, despite the fact the former has everything to gain ideological speaking from supporting this movent long term while the latter have everything to lose supporting it.

I'd be like if hardcore Nazis called out the Evils of the Holocaust while Jewish Leaders call them "Germanphobic" for doing so.


Everything is backwards from what it logically should be, at least in my mind.

 

[Cherico]

This maybe the wrong thread for this, but I'll be honest I'm honestly surprised that MGTOWs and cheuvenist aren't embracing the transgender movement as a godsend men have seemingly proven they can be seen as better at being women than women from a social standpoint and now they are even discovering how to make eggs from a stem cells.

Once the latter is perfected then women from all standpoints will be obsolete. All that would be left to do would be to condition males to embrace MGTOW and their masculine superior and humanity would be able to carry on as essential an asexual species. (Which according to MGTOWs I've met means all that energy wasted on sex can be used to build great empires and settle the stars.)

It feels like I'm in the twilight zone. The people who hate women (and view them as a necessary evil at best and a crippling hindrance at worst) are doing more to call out this garbage than the people whom claim to want to fight for women's rights and agency, despite the fact the former has everything to gain ideological speaking from supporting this movent long term while the latter have everything to lose supporting it.

Everything is backwards from what it logically should be, at least in my mind.

MGTOW is a secular male celibacy movement, you have no idea how badly you have to fuck up as a society to get one of those like this should be a reason for society to freak the fuck up bad, but it doesn't really hate women. It exists as a reaction to feminism and its excesses.

Most of the MGTOW movements guys don't actually hate women as a gender they hate how society shits on men and how their treated. If the laws were made more fair and women in the west collectively were 20% more polite the entire movement would be dead in a week.


Meanwhile the hard left community that entire activist group is patently insane and if given the chance will commit genocide on huge scales, you would basically be putting your trust into the hands of people who have fucked you your entire life and are frothing madman in the name of potentially getting what you want.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

MGTOW is a secular male celibacy movement, you have no idea how badly you have to fuck up as a society to get one of those like this should be a reason for society to freak the fuck up bad, but it doesn't really hate women. It exists as a reaction to feminism and its excesses.

Most of the MGTOW movements guys don't actually hate women as a gender they hate how society shits on men and how their treated. If the laws were made more fair and women in the west collectively were 20% more polite the entire movement would be dead in a week.


Meanwhile the hard left community that entire activist group is patently insane and if given the chance will commit genocide on huge scales, you would basically be putting your trust into the hands of people who have fucked you your entire life and are frothing madman in the name of potentially getting what you want.

It's possible I've just ran into some extreme fringes or people who were already sexist just jumping on the movement.

My overall point still stands. people who legit hate women are doing more to essentially defend them from this movement than women's rights people.

 

[Cherico]

It's possible I've just ran into some extreme fringes or people who were already sexist just jumping on the movement.

My overall point still stands. people who legit hate women are doing more to essentially defend them from this movement than women's rights people.

 

[posh-goofiness]

It's possible I've just ran into some extreme fringes or people who were already sexist just jumping on the movement.

My overall point still stands. people who legit hate women are doing more to essentially defend them from this movement than women's rights people.

Maybe they don't actually hate women, no matter that you say it's so?

 

[Ixian]

This maybe the wrong thread for this, but I'll be honest I'm honestly surprised that MGTOWs and cheuvenist aren't embracing the transgender movement as a godsend men have seemingly proven they can be seen as better at being women than women from a social standpoint and now they are even discovering how to make eggs from a stem cells.

Once the latter is perfected then women from all standpoints will be obsolete. All that would be left to do would be to condition males to not "long for the traits of the obsolete sex" embrace MGTOW and their masculine superior and humanity would be able to carry on as essential an asexual species. (Which according to MGTOWs I've met means all that energy wasted on sex can be used to build great empires and settle the stars.)

It feels like I'm in the twilight zone. The people who hate women (and view them as a necessary evil at best and a crippling hindrance at worst) are doing more to call out this garbage than the people whom claim to want to fight for women's rights and agency, despite the fact the former has everything to gain ideological speaking from supporting this movent long term while the latter have everything to lose supporting it.

I'd be like if hardcore Nazis called out the Evils of the Holocaust while Jewish Leaders call them "Germanphobic" for doing so.


Everything is backwards from what it logically should be, at least in my mind.

I wouldn't classify the MGTOW movement as sexist or chauvinist. It's essentially a semi-celibacy trend alongside a bit of economic logic.

The incel movement would be more along the terms you describe.

 

[Jormungandr]

I'm pretty much MGTOW. I follow the channels and agree with most of the talking points.

It's not about hating women or being misogynistic shitheels, a few fringe elements aside.

It's about self-improvement, not basing your life around a woman who can and most likely will fuck you over due to how badly society has degenerated, being independent and striving to be the best man you can be (health, career, finances, "being on your grind", et cetera), and ridiculing what women have become (not women themselves) and their subsequent actions in this day and age.

Hell, on the latter point we even have women who hate what other women have become in our discussion groups and video comments.

It basically formed as a reaction to how misandrist Western society has become -- media, the legal system, cultural attitudes, et cetera.

It's also funny to see feminists and women as a whole REEee'ing that we're no longer playing a rigged game of life.

Edit: trust me, this trans-trender shit is laughed at by us as much as it is everyone else.

Anyway, people who sling "incel!" at us as a buzzword are either a) talking about the fringe elements which pretty much are misogynistic or b) women, simps, and especially feminists that are pissed off that we're not playing the rigged game anymore.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Ok guys clearly I was about mentioning MGTOW. My exposure was limited to a small sample size.

 

[Jormungandr]

Ok guys clearly I was about mentioning MGTOW. My exposure was limited to a small sample size.

If you do go looking on YouTube out of curiosity, just note that if you look at "Undead Chronic (roman numeral here because he's been banned like a million times, so he remakes his accounts)", he's on the misogynistic side of things. His associates like Taylor the Fiend aren't, however.

A good source and someone I follow is SSM (Strong, Successful Male) -- he gives advice especially on how to build yourself up as a bloke (e.g. not simping), points out the lunacy of women's actions in this day and age, and always notes the hypocrisy in society (especially the legal system).

Edit: also, the best part? We don't give a shit about the people who think we're a hate movement, or that we're "incels", et cetera... and it drives our critics utterly nuts.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Maybe they don't actually hate women, no matter that you say it's so?

I've met people who have straight up said "they have no real use for them." One guy in particular pretty much said he only gave me the time of day because I was a man. And this was considering the fact we agreed with each other politically for the most part. It was on YouTube so maybe the guy was just being a edgelord but it's hard to tell parody from reality anymore.

 

[Agent23]

My thoughts exactly.

JKR was correct when she basically said this trans-trender lunacy would result in women being kicked out of their own spaces, sports, and activities.

But no, she's "transphobic".

She is a feminazi leftoid bitch throwing huge amounts of money at libtard crap and making bank from thinly-vailed leftoid/libtard propaganda peddled to kids.

I say let the trannies have her.

 

[Jormungandr]

She is a feminazi leftoid bitch throwing huge amounts of money at libtard crap and making bank from thinly-veiled leftoid/libtard propaganda peddled to kids.

I say let the trannies have her.

She's a TERF who was pretty much right about Trenders taking over women's spaces and activities: it's why she was turned on by the rest of the Left, including the child stars which she helped make famous through the Harry Potter movies (e.g. Emma Watson, Evanna Lynch, et cetera).

She's a Lefty, but she's not a Leftoid IMO -- and she was completely correct. We're seeing her predictions come true in front of our very eyes, yet the Left are still in denial about it.