The War in Afghanistan

[Zachowon]

So, why are people thinking A-stan is at all similar to any long standing ally?

 

[The Whispering Monk]

You're three to five behind, it's between 6 to 8 now.

I've only seen reporting on 2, so the 3rd is news to me. Where are you seeing 6-8?

 

[Bacle]

 

[Rocinante]

You have got to be fucking kidding me

 

[Bacle]

Now we know shit's going on, because ditching on Newsom is not something they would do lightly.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

🤦‍♀️

I'm using more images b/c I just can't type enough to express my feelings.

 

[DarthOne]

Now we know shit's going on, because ditching on Newsom is not something they would do lightly.

Or they still think they can cheat a win, but decided to focus on whats going on now

 

[Vaermina]

Have any sources?

I don't doubt you, but I'd like a source for sending to other people

 

[Sobek]

Wow. Just fucking wow.

How about we just send them more military hardware while at it. Maybe a few F-22's and maybe some M1A1 Abrahams while at it since we apparently Trust the Taliban so much. Holy shit this goes far beyond incompetence this is speaks of people completly detached to how the world outside western europe and the USA works.

 

[LMB The Mun]

"Where is the president" was trending on Twitter but mysteriously vanished from the sidebar. And of course, all the usual water-carriers are out in force, desperately trying to blame Trump and do whatever they can to deflect from the utter failure stinking up the White House.

 

[The Original Sixth]

Multiple people reportedly killed and wounded in alledged suicide bombing at Kabul Airport.



Edit:



Gunfire was reported as well. No US casualties reported as of yet.

The Biden admin really can't catch a break on this, can they?

 

[Circle of Willis]

At this point I really have to ask, if the Biden administration was purposely TRYING to get as many Americans killed and to humiliate the country they're theoretically supposed to be leading as badly as possible - what would they be doing differently?

 

[Husky_Khan]

Should've given the Taliban a fake list with fake names and let the good times loll.

 

[Sobek]

"Where is the president" was trending on Twitter but mysteriously vanished from the sidebar. And of course, all the usual water-carriers are out in force, desperately trying to blame Trump and do whatever they can to deflect from the utter failure stinking up the White House.

I saw a desperate attempt to shift blame to Trump by showing the pic of him saluting a NK general and comparing that to Biden.

It was such a weak cope. They have literally no comeback. People have tried to pull a "muh Reagan funded Mujahadeen! Muh GWB war! Muh Trump plan!" all of which mean nothing. Reagan's funding had to do with Soviet-Afghan war and was a different group, everyone already agrees Bush fucked up and anyone paying any attention knows that this was not Trump's plan but one that Biden admin pushed in place of it as a way to own Orange Man by ignoring his plans.

 

[Zachowon]

Wow. Just fucking wow.

How about we just send them more military hardware while at it. Maybe a few F-22's and maybe some M1A1 Abrahams while at it since we apparently Trust the Taliban so much. Holy shit this goes far beyond incompetence this is speaks of people completly detached to how the world outside western europe and the USA works.

Abrams are useless

 

[Rocinante]

Biden is live

 

[Rocinante]

He's just senselessly rambling

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I've stopped watching him live b/c it's frankly distressing. Used to think it was funny...then I remembered he's my president.

 

[The Original Sixth]

It feel like he can’t handle any stress at all, if that’s the case, why go for the presidency?

Because Biden was a compromise candidate. His connection and support from Obama helped him with more moderate progressive and black voters, whereas his past history as a senator helped him with older voters and more moderate ones. The media really wanted Kamala, but she lost popularity in the early debates. And even with the Media holding Biden's hand, his team still had to basically bribe/threaten/beg for others to drop out so it wouldn't be contested (as that would further weaken their position).

Biden never really went into office with any sort of mandate, other than "Not Trump".

They're all trying to duck this.

I don't think any of them are dumb enough to think they can duck this. That's not a good plan. I think they are honestly so confused and terrified, that they've locked up. This was supposed to be nice and clean. Then it fell apart. Then they put together some kind of organized way of getting things down. And now it's completely in the shitter. This is so beyond fucked, the only way it could get worse is if there's an actual hostage situation.

No, there's no way the rest of the Administration/Democrats would let him do it...

The optics of such an act would be suicidal to the point they would all but garuntee a Republican sweep in 2022 and 2024.

Exactly. That's why I think they just don't know what to do. I think the actual people are looking at this mess and feel as though they can't face the public. This is a once-in-a-century-fuck-up and it's happening to them. This is arguably WORSE than what happened to Trump during COVID-19.

His 2024 chances were probably already screwed with covid and the ineffective indefinite quarantine, so his handlers probably wouldn't show any hesitation to throw him under the bus if they though they could get alternative benefits for doing so. Specifically, they'd want the Afghanistan withdrawal to be as much of a publicized disaster as possible, with easy comparisons to Saigon, in an attempt to justify more nation-building intervention. Wait for Taliban atrocities, publicize them, then demand we waste a few more trillion dollars, lives of american soldiers and civil rights discarded 'for the duration of the emergency' to stop them.

No, that's not what is happening. The Deep State prides itself at being experts. You saw them in motion after Kabul fell. They set out a plan and contingency plans to get people out and keep it orderly. Sure, it wasn't going well, but there was some kind of orderly way of doing it. And now it's gone to complete hell. They can't just blame it on Biden, because they're as much to fault as he is now.

The media turned on him true, but they have still not gone as hard as should. There are still hold outs trying to run apologia, and still baby gloves being worn much of the time.

It's true that if this were Trump, there would have been no quarter given. But you have to realize that they all are upset that the women in Afghanistan are now subject to the law of the Taliban. That made them angry. They've been going pretty hard at Biden. They wanted to make a point. The Biden Admin worked around the clock to try and appease them, by promising to get Afghanis out. That led to a run on the airport, which led to more bad press, which led to yet more actions to appease the press. And now US marines are dead. The media is going to be baying for blood.

This is an unmitigated disaster.

Now we know shit's going on, because ditching on Newsom is not something they would do lightly.

I expect the panic is very real for them right now. Sending the Press Secretary is no good right now. This is such a massive fuckup that anything less than the President themselves addressing it is a slap to the face of not just the media, but the public. And we'll probably be lucky if Kamala shows her face.

EDIT -- Spoke too soon. I guess they came to their senses and managed to throw Biden out there.

 

[Bacle]

Oh great, he's playing the 'my kids were in the military card' thing now.