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The War in Afghanistan

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So I just found this out. Apparently the United States was still in Afghanistan. I had no idea because no Americans had died there for over a year in combat so the media basically ignored it because of such. Plus the media had to focus on more important foreign policy issues during the Trump Administration like Guam and stuff.



But anyways, it looks like the Afghanistan pullout is going pretty well.

It appears as part of the peace deal, the United States and Afghan government decided to donate the Taliban large numbers of vehicles and dozens of Scan Eagle drones to assist them in rebuilding their country.


The Taliban conquest of Afghanistan is going so well that domestic plane service is already returning to parts of the country!


And most telling of all, despite the Taliban assurances that all foreign diplomatic personnel will be protected and unharmed by the new regime, Biden is apparently sending three thousand Marines to protect the evacuation of the US Embassy in Kabul. KEEP IN MIND the troop levels for the past nine months in Afghanistan was 2500 troops. So the plan was to withdraw all the troops, then send in even more... to oversee the withdrawal.

 

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Oh man... if only there was an airbase the US Forces could've operated out of there. But I don't think they have any in country. Sad. Who could've seen it coming. 🤷‍♀️
 

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So I just found this out. Apparently the United States was still in Afghanistan. I had no idea because no Americans had died there for over a year in combat so the media basically ignored it because of such. Plus the media had to focus on more important foreign policy issues during the Trump Administration like Guam and stuff.
But anyways, it looks like the Afghanistan pullout is going pretty well. It appears as part of the peace deal, the United States and Afghan government decided to donate the Taliban large numbers of vehicles and dozens of Scan Eagle drones to assist them in rebuilding their country. The Taliban conquest of Afghanistan is going so well that domestic plane service is already returning to parts of the country! And most telling of all, despite the Taliban assurances that all foreign diplomatic personnel will be protected and unharmed by the new regime, Biden is apparently sending three thousand Marines to protect the evacuation of the US Embassy in Kabul. KEEP IN MIND the troop levels for the past nine months in Afghanistan was 2500 troops. So the plan was to withdraw all the troops, then send in even more... to oversee the withdrawal.
Inb4 the second Iran Hostage crisis?
Plz no attack.
 
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So I just found this out. Apparently the United States was still in Afghanistan. I had no idea because no Americans had died there for over a year in combat so the media basically ignored it because of such. Plus the media had to focus on more important foreign policy issues during the Trump Administration like Guam and stuff.



But anyways, it looks like the Afghanistan pullout is going pretty well.

It appears as part of the peace deal, the United States and Afghan government decided to donate the Taliban large numbers of vehicles and dozens of Scan Eagle drones to assist them in rebuilding their country.


The Taliban conquest of Afghanistan is going so well that domestic plane service is already returning to parts of the country!


And most telling of all, despite the Taliban assurances that all foreign diplomatic personnel will be protected and unharmed by the new regime, Biden is apparently sending three thousand Marines to protect the evacuation of the US Embassy in Kabul. KEEP IN MIND the troop levels for the past nine months in Afghanistan was 2500 troops. So the plan was to withdraw all the troops, then send in even more... to oversee the withdrawal.

Not just marines.....
Inb4 the second Iran Hostage crisis?
Plz no attack.
We won't be nice like we were against Iran
 

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How? I am honestly confused.
WE KNEW THIS WOULD HAPOEN! We were already prepared to send information the Evac.
 

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According to some locals who witnessed a wholesale execution of Afghan SF forces by Talibs, the bastards didn't speak a local dialect.

Which means they come from elsewhere.

What are the odds that the remnants of ISIS fled to Afghanistan and joined the Talibs?

This new offensive of theirs has all the trademarks of the ISIS blitz on Mosul back in 2014.
 

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So, what's the betting on the fall of Kabul? My money's on "within the next seven days."

Well, I do hope the Taliban can do a better job than this farce of a democracy. Then again, that shouldn't be too hard.
 

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So, what's the betting on the fall of Kabul? My money's on "within the next seven days."
The US embassy evac is going to be like Benghazi 2013 all over again, except on a mass scale.

I just hope my fellow Canucks make it out alright.

Well, I do hope the Taliban can do a better job than this farce of a democracy. Then again, that shouldn't be too hard.
They've already started slaughtering surrendered POWs, executing women for not wearing a veil, and rounding up girls to become sex slaves for their fighters.

I highly doubt they can do any better than the current (soon to be past) Afghan gov.
 

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No one expected it to happen so fast, most believed Afghanistan government would be able to crawl along to at least the end of September, if not October, but it seems the problem of phantom soldiers was even worse than pessimists claimed (last year I have seen claims that up to 50% ANA troops are fictional)

According to some locals who witnessed a wholesale execution of Afghan SF forces by Talibs, the bastards didn't speak a local dialect.
There are many local dialects in Afganistan and Talibans have mobile units, so these could as well be Afghanis from another part of the country. There is an ISIS franchise in Afghanistan and it is at war with both government and Talibans.
 

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According to some locals who witnessed a wholesale execution of Afghan SF forces by Talibs, the bastards didn't speak a local dialect.

Which means they come from elsewhere.

What are the odds that the remnants of ISIS fled to Afghanistan and joined the Talibs?

This new offensive of theirs has all the trademarks of the ISIS blitz on Mosul back in 2014.
Pakistani if anything. Also, the north tribes speak diffrent dialect etc etc.
Unlikely to be ISIS.
The US embassy evac is going to be like Benghazi 2013 all over again, except on a mass scale.

I just hope my fellow Canucks make it out alright.


They've already started slaughtering surrendered POWs, executing women for not wearing a veil, and rounding up girls to become sex slaves for their fighters.

I highly doubt they can do any better than the current (soon to be past) Afghan gov.
No, because the US have 3k troops to make sure that evac works better then 13. In 13 they were not really given support. Here they are sending 3k troops Army and Marine to get them out
 

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They've already started slaughtering surrendered POWs
Most of the time the surrendered soldiers are sent home, it's how they managed to convince the whole corps to surrender at Herat and Mazzar el Sharif, soldiers know they can expect leniency (at least short term) and are thus unwilling to die in a doomed last stand.

Here they are sending 3k troops Army and Marine to get them out
Plus B-52 and AC-130 support
 

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Most of the time the surrendered soldiers are sent home, it's how they managed to convince the whole corps to surrender at Herat and Mazzar el Sharif, soldiers know they can expect leniency (at least short term) and are thus unwilling to die in a doomed last stand.


Plus B-52 and AC-130 support
Yep.
This wont be Benghazi.
 

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No, because the US have 3k troops to make sure that evac works better then 13. In 13 they were not really given support. Here they are sending 3k troops Army and Marine to get them out
It's five thousand now! Biden issued a statement.


And he's washed his hands of Afghanistan anyhow.

 

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Why do people think us leaving is demoralizing?
We have been there 20 years. THe country should be able to hold itself up. Look at South korea, Japan. South Korea is an example of a country we put people in power and were fought and willingly made themselves fight.

WHY ARE PEOPLE SAYING THIS IS SO UCKING HORRIBLE TAT WE ARE LEAVING! HE ISNT FUCKING WRONG! WHY KEEP US THERE? SO MORE OF US DIE FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT CANT TAKE CARE OF THIER FUCKING SELVES?
 
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