49ersfootball
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Operation Lone Star doing it's job in securing our Southern Border:
United States The Lone Star State (TX) Thread
49ersfootball
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I am 100% Pro-Life all the way & strongly support the bill which the TX State Legislature passed:
So you support allowing a state to take unconstitutional action merely by delegating enforcement actions to private parties?
As a matter of fundamental policy, SB8 can't be allowed to stand. Not because of the abortion related provisions but because of the method, manner, and procedures that it uses to effect those abortion related provisions.
Because there is fundamentally no difference between SB8 and a law that was identical save that it replaced abortion with "distributing, hosting, or aiding and abetting the distribution and hosting of anti-Democrat stories".
SB8 needs to end up at SCOTUS but not on a question of abortion or the constitutionality of the fetal heartbeat ban. It needs to end up at SCOTUS on a question of procedure.
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
I find the abortion thing such a weird fucking hill to die on for american liberals. They let you abourt up to 6 weeks. That is a small window sure, but plenty of time. The sheer fucking meltdown you see makes it sound like it's a fucking burqa law or something.
I don't fucking get it. You have birth control, condoms, the day after pill AND 6 weeks to abort. How the fuck are you gonna miss ALL of those and get stuck with a kid? "Oh but what is rape?" 6 weeks. More than enough. It's insane.
I don't fucking get it. You have birth control, condoms, the day after pill AND 6 weeks to abort. How the fuck are you gonna miss ALL of those and get stuck with a kid? "Oh but what is rape?" 6 weeks. More than enough. It's insane.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
It is insane. Because at its most basic level, leftism is insane, and self-destructive.
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
That has to be it, because I don't really see another option. There are people melting down about how this is a American Taliban! Like, what the fuck? What the hell does that even mean? It's a unhealthy and insane fixation on a woman being able to just rip her uterus open and kick the fetus out on a moments notice to a point where it goes beyond parody. None of these people are able to provide a single reason beyond "my body my choice" without explaining WHY a woman might make that choice.
Lord Sovereign
The resident Britbong
...okay.
The Dems have reacted in quite a severe manner to the heart beat bill.
As in, holy shit, this is monstrous and confirms every fear the anti-abortion crowd's ever had, levels of severe.
The Dems have reacted in quite a severe manner to the heart beat bill.
As in, holy shit, this is monstrous and confirms every fear the anti-abortion crowd's ever had, levels of severe.
Bear Ribs
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Imma say, I actually approve of this, I know that won't be popular. Not because I'm in favor of abortion but I never liked that it was Roe vs. Wade, ie. legislation from the bench, rather than an Act passed by the actual legislative branch as it's supposed to be. Judges are not supposed to make laws and it always sticks in my craw when they do.
Roe vs. Wade was untouchable because it was a Supreme Court decision so nothing except a supreme court could actually do anything about it. Having it a law passed by the Feds means it can also be removed by the Feds whenever the Conservatives take power again, or (ideally) shot down by the Supreme Court as unconstitutional overreach in which case it's going to be extremely hard to ever bring a national abortion law back, essentially requiring control of all three branches at once which doesn't happen often.
Putting on my tinfoil hat for a moment, I'm not real ultra surprised, I've been hearing rumors out of California friends for some time that the Democrats actually want to get rid of Roe vs. Wade, because of the conflicts between its bodily autonomy/medical privacy aspects and the desire to force people to vaccinate. I wasn't sure they were true but I've been half-expecting efforts to kill Roe vs. Wade for some time.
In other news the stuff they're complaining about on this bill is getting interesting.
I'm not sure how often LGBTQ+ people need abortions, that would appear to be contraindicated by the mechanics and general biology of gay sex. Also, y'know, there's really not that many of them to get pregnant even if the issues with the plumbing didn't exist. More interesting is their bemoaning how there're going to be so many brown skinned babies in the future.
f1onagher
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It's literal theology. Abortion has become mired in the overall Democratic cosmology and thus cannot be separated from all the racism, sexism, LGBT stuff even if it's not relevant. It's a package deal that lacks any sort of situational flexibility because it's become dogma. I hope Pelosi does make a big legislative football of abortion. It'll drag it into the light of mainstream discussions again and the old euphemism for killing babies don't work so well in the internet era. Let's make a thing of it and let the world judge the argument with fewer pretensions.
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That's halfway true. Having it be a matter of federal law instead of a federal court case is a major improvement, however the emphasis there is "instead of". If this law was passed right now, it would be both, which in practical terms is worse because I think it makes getting rid of the underlying court case harder, as any hypothetical anti abortion law at the state level will get shot down as a violation of federal law without ever touching Roe's nonexistent constitutional basis.
I'm not sure what would happen if congress tried to ban abortion while Roe was still in effect, or rather how the court would rule given Roe's aforementioned constitutional issues.
Also, it's worth noting the democrats do not have the votes to pass this, both because of the filibuster and because Manchin is pro life and, unlike Biden, isn't a spineless coward.
49ersfootball
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Video of the Governors of TX from my personal YouTube Channel:
Bear Ribs
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The further developments in the Texas Abortion law are getting beyond the bounds of rational parody and humor. I'm seriously having trouble not breaking out laughing.
Somehow, against all odds, the Left has stumbled into recognizing the value of traditional marriage and abstinence outside of it. Who saw this coming?
Somehow, against all odds, the Left has stumbled into recognizing the value of traditional marriage and abstinence outside of it. Who saw this coming?
49ersfootball
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If you get preggers, you're keeping the kids. I'm one of 14 kids ya know 😉
49ersfootball
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The WOKE TX Dems are an embarrassment to the Lone Star State. They're so easily DAMN triggered LOL!
I should note that Redistricting will be in the upcoming fall special session, which likely means TX GOP continues their dominance for another decade.
The TX GOP needs only 18 seats to get supermajority in the TX House of Representatives in November 2022.
Yeah, even Texas still having some issue with petty tyrants hiding behind a badge.
Funny how fast the 'Thin Blue Line' has burned most of it's support from both ends of the political spectrum due to George Floyd and the Wu Flu bullshit.
Neither side has any illusion that most cops serve anyone but themselves and their paychecks, not the Constitution or people, anymore.
I don't know what you are talking about.
Thin Blue line is strong as fuck for the cops that deserve it.
Cops that don't, are hated by both sides, while good cops are hated by one.
Most country Sheriff's are good
Yeah, and how many of them will put the Constitution above their own career or paycheck, when given unlawful mandates by governors or people exercising 'emergency powers' that contravine the US Constitution?
Plenty probably do.
We just don't ever hear about them over those that dont.