SuperHeavy
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May I ask what the white sections and that slightly darker patch in Saudi Arabia indicate? I assume the light green in basically unclaimed wasteland.
Fallout The Eagle And The Bear [Fallout AU]
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Navarro
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White countries are countries without a colour. Slightly darker green represents areas where no one lives, as opposed to the mess of statelets, petty kingdoms, tribes, warlords and city states that the light green represents.
SuperHeavy
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Oh, the oil fields got nuked to the point the sand glows in the dark didn't they. Either way love how you are putting together a post nuclear globe. I must admit that I am holding out hope for surviving moon colonies on the dark side that developed their own society.
Crow gotta eat
That peckish, patriotic, Protestant passerine.
I am interested in the Finland/Baltic regions about what sort of country took over that area.
ForeverShogo
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I'd also assume that the United States would have a vested interest in protecting Morocco.
Morocco was the first country to recognize the United States as a nation, and they have had a treaty of friendship since 1786.
Morocco was the first country to recognize the United States as a nation, and they have had a treaty of friendship since 1786.
CarlManvers2019
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Say, does the E-USA still have the wasteland cults/religions? Funding Pastor Torres looked to me as a way to do both propaganda and to remove what they saw as too barbaric or regressive and crazy looking
TyrantTriumphant
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How interconnected is this world? Is the Enclave familiar with the Asian states and vise-versa?
CarlManvers2019
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Given Navarro is implying that China’s gone really fucking horrible, I’m guessing that the NCR has been fooled with its visitations
As for the Enclave, I think they’re mainly guesses based on the fact the Chinese nuked the USA and started this whole mess
SuperHeavy
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I'm pretty sure the NCR is fully aware, but they don't care as long as they are fighting the US. It's the same reason they have been shipping up conscripts from South America without really caring where they come from. Smart, no sustainable, no but it does put more warm bodies between their soldiers and Enclave guns.
CarlManvers2019
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To them the Enclave is the most EVIL nation/power to have ever existed
The Red Chinese maybe horrible, but better to be ruled from Beijing than be chained by Washington
AspblastUSA
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NZ is food independent, though. Sure without international trade they’d be limited in their pallete but they could lose near 50% of their farming efficiency before falling below the independence threshold. Speaking from experience it is actually a remarkably idyllic place for humans to live.
Aaron Fox
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That might not work because, well, we have been told by those who went into the Kremlin when a select few were allowed in that the Soviet's response to nuclear war is 'fuck everyone and everyone gets fucked'. It is likely that everywhere got nuked with a dose of anthrax designed to render breadbaskets absolutely unusable without concentrated efforts on cleanup with sophisticated equipment.
The US would likely be safe given that it was all but directly stated that the US had an SDI grid setup (given that House got his hands on three SDI grade laser cannons (with all the equipment that entails) before the war, installed them on the Lucky 38, and despite not being fully operational took out some 70 nukes headed towards the Mojave alone), the rest of the world, however? Fucked. Morrocco might have an SDI system given the holy shit levels of trust and friendship between the two, but that's probably the only place on Earth other than the units in China (which would likely have some truck-mounted SDIs to ensure that Chinese ballistic missiles don't screw with the US forces there) that would have them.
Remember, the SDI network node in Boston managed to get all but one nuke that was headed to the metropolitan area, and the one that did was off target. This is on top of being caught completely flat-footed by China's super-stealth subs that would make the Red October green with envy, getting degraded by said subs launching at angles so flat that they might just be firing in a straight line, and the fact that everyone and their brother firing the nukes at everyone. If anything, the situation that the US SDI network faced was probably the equiv of having every incoming missile in missile command being MIRVs with surprise-buttsex missiles at a flat angle...
Duke Nukem
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Ground zero in Boston was very close to the sentinel site which had nukes so it might not have been a mistake .
Crow gotta eat
That peckish, patriotic, Protestant passerine.
I think it is mostly E-USA due to being on the East Coast has some trade routes and connections to Europe and Africa. While the NCR being on the West Coast has connections to Asia, Polynesia and Australia area. Then both have connections to Central and South America. Then meanwhile European countries have probably trade with each other and Africa, and some closer Asian states, specifically in the Middle-East and maybe whatever that Soviet Union remnant power is, since they are in technically the Asia part of Russia.
To make all the things comparable, it is mostly like how China heard about the Romans at one point, and even got a few of their goods that kept getting passed along the trade caravans, that is probably somewhat comparable to what we got now. Probably everyone has more or less heard about each other, maybe even have more or less accurate maps of current global geopolitical borders currently. Or at least the major nations like the NCR and E-USA or those who directly trade with said nations have them since those two probably stole 'known-world' maps from each other.
CarlManvers2019
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SuperHeavy
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Honestly given how liberally the Chinese were using with artificially created plagues and crop blights when the balloon went up who knows how much global cropland was rendered unusable. That and a dirty bomb's highly radioactive fallout is fantastic at ruining topsoil.
CarlManvers2019
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The Enclave has multiple GECKS and have advanced the technologies of Vault-Tech
I'm guessing they traded it in order to get more food coming out of their allies' homes for future trade
Gotta remember this is the FO verse though, who knows how effed up New Zealand (or etc. place that 'should have been relatively safe') was before the bombs dropped and/or if some MAD SCIENCE happened.
Aaron Fox
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Given all the other considerations, it was still off-target because the site was still standing.