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When is Ghislaine Maxwell going to die?


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Can someone explain to what about Pedophilia is so horrible it requires this super villain level of conspiracy and secrecy? I mean it's a horrible crime, but how is it any worse than giving and reciving kickbacks, and selling parts of your country to foreign enemies (pretty sure that's treason), hijacking the peaceful transition of power of a sovereign country, Mandating unreasonable mandates under threat of cutting off trade supply, raping interns under threat of destroying financial security if they don't comply, advocating terrorist groups to bomb and loot heavily populated market districts. All of this stuff is basically met with "eat it peasants we are of the eilite we can do what we want!" with little to no shame, but being a pedophile is the thing that requires the illumati level of conspiracy. How is that so much worse than any of the crimes I listed above like treason? I don't get the mind of these elites.
 
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DarthOne

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Can someone explain to what about Pedophilia is so horrible it requires this super villain level of conspiracy and secrecy? I mean it's a horrible crime, but how is it any worse than giving and reciving kickbacks, and selling parts of your country to foreign enemies (pretty sure that's treason), hijacking the peaceful transition of power of a sovereign country, Mandating unreasonable mandates under threat of cutting off trade supply, raping interns under threat o destroying financial security, advocating terrorist groups to bomb and loot heavily populated market districts. All of this stuff is basically met with "eat it peasants we are of the eilite we can do what we want!" with little to no shame, but being a pedophile is the thing that requires the illumati level of conspiracy. How is that so much worse than any of the crimes I listed above like treason? I don't get the mind of these elites.
No clue; but then, as far as I’m concerned most of those crimes warrant execution.
 

Cherico

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Can someone explain to what about Pedophilia is so horrible it requires this super villain level of conspiracy and secrecy? I mean it's a horrible crime, but how is it any worse than giving and reciving kickbacks, and selling parts of your country to foreign enemies (pretty sure that's treason), hijacking the peaceful transition of power of a sovereign country, Mandating unreasonable mandates under threat of cutting off trade supply, raping interns under threat of destroying financial security if they don't comply, advocating terrorist groups to bomb and loot heavily populated market districts. All of this stuff is basically met with "eat it peasants we are of the eilite we can do what we want!" with little to no shame, but being a pedophile is the thing that requires the illumati level of conspiracy. How is that so much worse than any of the crimes I listed above like treason? I don't get the mind of these elites.

everything else can be justified in their mind as either 'harmless' or nessary evils.

Raping a kid though involves harming the most vulnerable members of society in the most primal and personal way possible. Even they cant justify it to themselves or others it just leaves them with the knowlege that they are the clear bad guy. No justifications, no lesser evil just evil for the sake of evil.

This is a case were even other elites will turn on you because they have children of their own and know that you might just target them.

Essentally its the line where you go from too powerful to fuck with into too powerful to let live, and once you cross that line people come after you reguardless of conquenses because not doing so is too risky.
 

ShieldWife

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Keep in mind that primarily this case isn’t about exploiting teenagers for sex. It’s about how the elites control our government, because once a politician or other important person takes a trip to Epstein island, they then become a pawn of who ever was pulling Maxwell and Epstein’s strings.

Don’t think that this is about sex crimes, it goes far beyond that.
 

Hlaalu Agent

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Keep in mind that primarily this case isn’t about exploiting teenagers for sex. It’s about how the elites control our government, because once a politician or other important person takes a trip to Epstein island, they then become a pawn of who ever was pulling Maxwell and Epstein’s strings.

Don’t think that this is about sex crimes, it goes far beyond that.

Indeed, we have some bad hombres in the shadow who are manipulating people. Hell, assuming that Soros has nothing to do with this (I honestly think that ghoul isn't involved), they make said ghoul look like Mr. Rogers in comparison. Even peering a bit down the rabbit hole, makes many of the surface level manipulators look tame...
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.

This role playing shit frightens me.
 

S'task

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Can someone explain to what about Pedophilia is so horrible it requires this super villain level of conspiracy and secrecy? I mean it's a horrible crime, but how is it any worse than giving and reciving kickbacks, and selling parts of your country to foreign enemies (pretty sure that's treason), hijacking the peaceful transition of power of a sovereign country, Mandating unreasonable mandates under threat of cutting off trade supply, raping interns under threat of destroying financial security if they don't comply, advocating terrorist groups to bomb and loot heavily populated market districts. All of this stuff is basically met with "eat it peasants we are of the eilite we can do what we want!" with little to no shame, but being a pedophile is the thing that requires the illumati level of conspiracy. How is that so much worse than any of the crimes I listed above like treason? I don't get the mind of these elites.
everything else can be justified in their mind as either 'harmless' or nessary evils.

Raping a kid though involves harming the most vulnerable members of society in the most primal and personal way possible. Even they cant justify it to themselves or others it just leaves them with the knowlege that they are the clear bad guy. No justifications, no lesser evil just evil for the sake of evil.

This is a case were even other elites will turn on you because they have children of their own and know that you might just target them.

Essentally its the line where you go from too powerful to fuck with into too powerful to let live, and once you cross that line people come after you reguardless of conquenses because not doing so is too risky.
Further, it's also a crime that can generate lone wolf vigilantes that society would completely sympathize with. You really think a father or mother who, say, found out about Epstein or some other elite's raping of their daughter and then hunting them down and killing them wouldn't end up basically a folk hero? And there would be a lot of pressure and little social consequences for doing so. Heck, even as corrupt as it is, Hollywood even made an entire movie franchise out of that very concept, and a jury is likely to be highly sympathetic to that person when charged.

Thus the secrecy, the conspiracy. It's a crime they know other elites who aren't involved with won't shield them from, and it's one that no jury in the country is likely to be willing to put up with (consider: this is one of the great advantages the US jury system has, if an elite fucks up enough to be put on trial, they're put before the commoners, not by fellow elites, and when it's a crime like this, those commoners are NOT going to be confused by obscure tax and finance law or the complexities of white collar crime... this is a clean, open and shut case they can easily and clearly understand and convict for). And if vigilante justice gets to them first, well, the Texas Defense* for that person will be widely accepted.

You see, this crime isn't as impersonal as the others you listed. It is very personal, and one which most normal people have no trouble putting themselves into the shoes of those harmed by it. Even if they cannot imagine being raped themselves, those girls are someone's daughters, sister, aunt, niece, or even just friend. It is a HIGHLY personal crime against a member of society that the entirety of society is constructed to PROTECT. The core, fundamental purpose of a society is to provide safety and stability for the raising of children. There's a reason pedophiles are not housed with genpop in prisons, because even normal criminals understand that fundamental social contract and see it as a line even to far for them. Pedophiles cross a line that people are their very core understand is Evil and violates the most basic core of the social contract in a way very few other crimes do (the systemic intentional homicide of children is perhaps the only one that comes close but even it falls below child rape**).

As such, these elites know that if caught their wealth and power would not protect them in the same way it would against their other crimes. There would be no sympathy for them from anywhere, and other elites wouldn't protect them.

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* "He needed killin'."
** The reason for this is somewhat understandable when you consider that we're talking the core of the social contract that basically goes back to primordial times. Remember that childhood mortality used to be much higher than it is now, so a child dying, even by intentional homicide, was a tragedy and evil, but many more children died from other things, so it was not uniquely tragic or evil. That said rape is another matter... that is not something that happened to children outside of the actions of another, there's no disease or accident that rapes a child, no allergic reaction or poisonous food. Thus the tragedy and evil is purely human and of human action.
 

Spartan303

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So I am genuinely surprised she's even on trial, even though I don't think anything really "special" will come out. She's likely not going to take the stand, and she won't mention any names. In turn, she's probably going to the Martha Stewart prison.


I was too at first. Then I found a youtube video from a Lawyer following the trial that explained it clearly why they're going after her....and not anyone else.

 

Rocinante

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Keep in mind that primarily this case isn’t about exploiting teenagers for sex. It’s about how the elites control our government, because once a politician or other important person takes a trip to Epstein island, they then become a pawn of who ever was pulling Maxwell and Epstein’s strings.

Don’t think that this is about sex crimes, it goes far beyond that.
My conspiracy thinking boils it down to this. Essentially, to be let into the club of elites, you have to enter into a mutual blackmail pact with them. Kind of like a gang initiation.

Go to pedo Island, give them the blackmail they need, now you're one of the world elites. Now you're in a club that only a few hundred or a thousand people well ever get to be in. You're the elite. You run the world. You make things happen. You're on the very top of the heirarchy. However all the elites have something to keep themselves and others mostly in line: mutually assured destruction.

And that's why we see so many elites going to pedo Island.
 

bintananth

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Twitter trying to keep people from being able to keep up to date on the trial.

There's a reason only two of my relatives have Twitter accounts. One died years ago and the other created hers so someone couldn't pretend to be her but doesn't use it.

If either account posts a tweet ... the account was hacked.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
There's a reason only two of my relatives have Twitter accounts. One died years ago and the other created hers so someone couldn't pretend to be her but doesn't use it.

If either account posts a tweet ... the account was hacked.

How is one of them being dead an explanation for having a Twitter account, though?
 

bintananth

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How is one of them being dead an explanation for having a Twitter account, though?
It's very complicated. She created her account before she died. No one aside from my mother is supposed to know the location of her unmarked grave.

I don't. One of my sisters does and she ain't saying much of anything about it beyond "it's in Minnesota" and "it's according to her wishes".

Our cousin wanted to be forgotten and unremembered.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
It's very complicated. She created her account before she died. No one aside from my mother is supposed to know the location of her unmarked grave.

I don't. One of my sisters does and she ain't saying much of anything about it beyond "it's in Minnesota" and "it's according to her wishes".

Our cousin wanted to be forgotten and unremembered.

…Okay, well, I’m sorry to hear that, then.
 

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